2017 Honda Civic Type-R (FK8)
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|https://thumbsnap.com/puRoM5SN[/url]Loved this car so much it stayed longer than any other has in 30 years with me. From new, 50,000 miles of absolute fun. For most of that time there was a special toy in the garage but the Honda often won the day when deciding about what to take out on a Sunday morning or trackday.
And when life moved on it was the perfect one car to do it all. But it finally got to the point where the itch to try something new became too much.
So last August I swapped it for an AMG C63S Wagon. Ummd and aahd about M3s , Alfa QFs etc but the big V8 won out. .........
And it's great, it has met expectations , it sounds epic, its very fast but solid and well specced like any nice Merc. But its not as much as fun as the Type R. And as fuel goes crazy 21mpg is starting to become offensive. And its an auto, a good auto but still....
And it has a rattle from the back that I cant fix and its driving me crazy.
But finally what did it for me was when I genuinely tried to open the boot of a C220D estate at the supermarket a few weeks ago - it looks almost exactly the same with even similar wheels.
And the penny dropped that I am effectively paying a premium for a car I enjoy less and that is a bit invisible compared to the Honda.
So C63 going and this coming
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.EK9_CTR said:
Considering an FK8 but not sure if I should wait for a potential dip in prices? Thoughts?
I’m in exactly the same position & have been watching prices for two years. Like for like a 19 plate is 4/5k more than last April & I’ve seen no dip in prices of late.
They’d held their prices well anyway but a 19 plate is only circa 2k off its new price!
Then there’s the new one due year end….
acme said:
I’m in exactly the same position & have been watching prices for two years.
Like for like a 19 plate is 4/5k more than last April & I’ve seen no dip in prices of late.
They’d held their prices well anyway but a 19 plate is only circa 2k off its new price!
Then there’s the new one due year end….
Prices have been surprisingly strong. Envious of those that scooped up later model, low mileage minters for less than £25k! Gut feeling tells me prices are inflated at the moment and to wait just a little longer.Like for like a 19 plate is 4/5k more than last April & I’ve seen no dip in prices of late.
They’d held their prices well anyway but a 19 plate is only circa 2k off its new price!
Then there’s the new one due year end….
I've been looking at 19 plates too. I believe they addressed some minor issues and less chance of gearbox troubles. I like the performance based changes made to the 2020 model but prices are silly and I can't stand the "hockey sticks" they've inserted into the front and rear bumpers that look profound in my desired CW colour.
Then there's the option of the new CTR which I think looks fantastic even in prototype guise. I was rather hoping Honda would've revealed the production car by now but all they keep showing are those red camo vehicles. If first deliveries are later this year I might just hold out for it.
Either way, I'll probably give it another month or two before I pull the trigger on an FK8 or the new FL model.
EK9_CTR said:
Prices have been surprisingly strong. Envious of those that scooped up later model, low mileage minters for less than £25k! Gut feeling tells me prices are inflated at the moment and to wait just a little longer.
I've been looking at 19 plates too. I believe they addressed some minor issues and less chance of gearbox troubles. I like the performance based changes made to the 2020 model but prices are silly and I can't stand the "hockey sticks" they've inserted into the front and rear bumpers that look profound in my desired CW colour.
Then there's the option of the new CTR which I think looks fantastic even in prototype guise. I was rather hoping Honda would've revealed the production car by now but all they keep showing are those red camo vehicles. If first deliveries are later this year I might just hold out for it.
Either way, I'll probably give it another month or two before I pull the trigger on an FK8 or the new FL model.
I didn’t realise the 19 plate ones had had some work done to help the gearbox issue, which I’ve occasionally heard about, but never seen an actual owner mention. Albeit they seem so rare, even on here. I’ve seen about five or so in the wild since 2017!I've been looking at 19 plates too. I believe they addressed some minor issues and less chance of gearbox troubles. I like the performance based changes made to the 2020 model but prices are silly and I can't stand the "hockey sticks" they've inserted into the front and rear bumpers that look profound in my desired CW colour.
Then there's the option of the new CTR which I think looks fantastic even in prototype guise. I was rather hoping Honda would've revealed the production car by now but all they keep showing are those red camo vehicles. If first deliveries are later this year I might just hold out for it.
Either way, I'll probably give it another month or two before I pull the trigger on an FK8 or the new FL model.
I agree re the next one & the lack of unveiling, which seems odd given the camo ones were seen end of last year/January. Car magazine had a very good rendering a few months back which looked very accurate when I compared to the Japan auto salon one on a stand. There was a YT vid of a guy who was in Japan & did close ups.
Logically price wise I’d have thought it’ll be 37-40k which given 19/20 plates are 32/34k seems almost illogical to get the FK8, though of course actually getting hold of ones a different matter.
acme said:
I didn’t realise the 19 plate ones had had some work done to help the gearbox issue, which I’ve occasionally heard about, but never seen an actual owner mention. Albeit they seem so rare, even on here. I’ve seen about five or so in the wild since 2017!
I agree re the next one & the lack of unveiling, which seems odd given the camo ones were seen end of last year/January. Car magazine had a very good rendering a few months back which looked very accurate when I compared to the Japan auto salon one on a stand. There was a YT vid of a guy who was in Japan & did close ups.
Logically price wise I’d have thought it’ll be 37-40k which given 19/20 plates are 32/34k seems almost illogical to get the FK8, though of course actually getting hold of ones a different matter.
Don't quote me on the gearbox for the 2019 models, I may be recalling incorrectly. I do know they fixed a potential minor corrosion issue in the boot hinge area for 2019 models onwards. Again just like the gearboxes, not many suffer from this issue. Overall I believe the build quality is fairly solid as you'd expect from Honda.I agree re the next one & the lack of unveiling, which seems odd given the camo ones were seen end of last year/January. Car magazine had a very good rendering a few months back which looked very accurate when I compared to the Japan auto salon one on a stand. There was a YT vid of a guy who was in Japan & did close ups.
Logically price wise I’d have thought it’ll be 37-40k which given 19/20 plates are 32/34k seems almost illogical to get the FK8, though of course actually getting hold of ones a different matter.
Will be interesting to see what dates Honda indicate for the new model given the supply chain issues, chip shortages and all the rest of the madness going on in the world right now.
I definitely wouldn't be paying in the £30k range for an FK8. You should see prices of the boost blue / racing blue examples....
Edited by EK9_CTR on Thursday 17th March 14:38
Edited by EK9_CTR on Thursday 17th March 14:41
EK9_CTR said:
Don't quote me on the gearbox for the 2019 models, I may be recalling incorrectly. I do know they fixed a potential minor corrosion issue in the boot hinge area for 2019 models onwards. Again just like the gearboxes, not many suffer from this issue. Overall I believe the build quality is fairly solid as you'd expect from Honda.
Will be interesting to see what dates Honda indicate for the new model given the supply chain issues, chip shortages and all the rest of the madness going on in the world right now.
I definitely wouldn't be paying in the £30k range for an FK8. You should see prices of the boost blue / racing blue examples....
I’d not heard re the boot hinge, but guess that’s fairly minor. I just hope the dealers are ok, based on my interactions with Honda & their mowers I’m fearful!Will be interesting to see what dates Honda indicate for the new model given the supply chain issues, chip shortages and all the rest of the madness going on in the world right now.
I definitely wouldn't be paying in the £30k range for an FK8. You should see prices of the boost blue / racing blue examples....
Edited by EK9_CTR on Thursday 17th March 14:38
Edited by EK9_CTR on Thursday 17th March 14:41
There’s the thing, I suspect it’ll be available end of the year but in reality not actually so til next year. It appears to have the same engine & gearbox combo with a much better interior, based on the SI videos I’ve seen.
What do you think you’re prepared to pay? Even in the height of the pandemic I only saw one or two high milers for 25k?
I was aiming on a 19 plate with 15k miles from a Honda dealer early last year for 28/29k. A year on that’s 32k.
When I test drove one in summer 19 a new one was 34k
There’s a blue one for sale in Cambridge for 48k, been for sale since last summer.
I enquired about one last month that’d been at the main dealer since end of September. Madness.
acme said:
When I test drove one in summer 19 a new one was 34k
There’s a blue one for sale in Cambridge for 48k, been for sale since last summer.
I enquired about one last month that’d been at the main dealer since end of September. Madness.
This is it, priced more than new and most of them not selling. I can't see the logic.There’s a blue one for sale in Cambridge for 48k, been for sale since last summer.
I enquired about one last month that’d been at the main dealer since end of September. Madness.
Mikee19 said:
This is it, priced more than new and most of them not selling. I can't see the logic.
I agree. It’s the same as the 19 plate I mentioned, when I started digging with the dealer he was totally open that it had come into stock at the end of September, almost five months prior to my enquiry. It was up for 31300, I then subsequently found it at 35500 on the Honda site, a 19 plate FFS!
I noticed a few people on PH saying their dealers had contacted them to see if they were interested in selling. Letchworth Honda had about half a dozen at one point, so they clearly thought there was a killing to be made.
It’s odd though, surely carrying stock for a long time is a fairly costly exercise, & one they review frequently?
acme said:
I’d not heard re the boot hinge, but guess that’s fairly minor. I just hope the dealers are ok, based on my interactions with Honda & their mowers I’m fearful!
There’s the thing, I suspect it’ll be available end of the year but in reality not actually so til next year. It appears to have the same engine & gearbox combo with a much better interior, based on the SI videos I’ve seen.
What do you think you’re prepared to pay? Even in the height of the pandemic I only saw one or two high milers for 25k?
I was aiming on a 19 plate with 15k miles from a Honda dealer early last year for 28/29k. A year on that’s 32k.
When I test drove one in summer 19 a new one was 34k
There’s a blue one for sale in Cambridge for 48k, been for sale since last summer.
I enquired about one last month that’d been at the main dealer since end of September. Madness.
I really like the interior of the new generation. Clean and simple. The Si has received a lot of praise in the US which is good news for the upcoming Type R.There’s the thing, I suspect it’ll be available end of the year but in reality not actually so til next year. It appears to have the same engine & gearbox combo with a much better interior, based on the SI videos I’ve seen.
What do you think you’re prepared to pay? Even in the height of the pandemic I only saw one or two high milers for 25k?
I was aiming on a 19 plate with 15k miles from a Honda dealer early last year for 28/29k. A year on that’s 32k.
When I test drove one in summer 19 a new one was 34k
There’s a blue one for sale in Cambridge for 48k, been for sale since last summer.
I enquired about one last month that’d been at the main dealer since end of September. Madness.
For an FK8 I'm prepared to pay mid-20s. Perhaps a slight bit more.
This 68 plate example at Kendal Honda (YT link below) went from £31,965 down to £27,965. Once it hit that price it went very quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9meh-kRqAaI
Still some half decent deals I guess if you keep your eyes peeled. I'm in no particular rush and happy to wait until early summer. Let's see what happens!
EK9_CTR said:
I really like the interior of the new generation. Clean and simple. The Si has received a lot of praise in the US which is good news for the upcoming Type R.
For an FK8 I'm prepared to pay mid-20s. Perhaps a slight bit more.
This 68 plate example at Kendal Honda (YT link below) went from £31,965 down to £27,965. Once it hit that price it went very quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9meh-kRqAaI
Still some half decent deals I guess if you keep your eyes peeled. I'm in no particular rush and happy to wait until early summer. Let's see what happens!
Agreed. The proper HVAC looks much better as do the drivers dials. I prefer the integrated screen of the 8, but the HMI seems much better. For an FK8 I'm prepared to pay mid-20s. Perhaps a slight bit more.
This 68 plate example at Kendal Honda (YT link below) went from £31,965 down to £27,965. Once it hit that price it went very quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9meh-kRqAaI
Still some half decent deals I guess if you keep your eyes peeled. I'm in no particular rush and happy to wait until early summer. Let's see what happens!
That does look pretty good value & a huge reduction. A dark grey one for 27500 has just appeared 67 plate with 28k at a Honda dealer, about the best I’ve seen.
Got to sell my M3 first, once that’s done I suspect I’ll get an 8.
Edited by acme on Friday 18th March 08:31
Dream Automotive have just put theirs up for sale. It was basically used as a development car for modifications. Its a 67 plate up for £28,499 and only 11,700 miles
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13029078
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/13029078
FK8 prices are still inflated currently in my opinion (what car isn't right now though?)
My 2019 with circa 17k miles on it was offered £32.8k by Motorways back end of last year! That's when they were at their peak. Prices are coming down but still a bit mad personally.
I had initially wanted to wait for them to come down to circa £20k, and they almost did at one point (£20,999 for one with 40k miles I saw once) but when Honda stopped making them that's when the prices first rose.
Honda dealers are a bit hit and miss with warranty work - I've been refused a number of claims that others have had accepted at theirs - minor things, paint calliper lacquer peel, centre caps, seat parts feeling loose, but it doesn't seem consistent.
Build quality is poor compared to older Hondas (have an s2k as well and previous FD2, both better built) but this might be a common thing with modern cars I feel?
I'm not in love with it and don't think they're as fun to drive as others say, but I've kept it almost a year now and no idea what I'd replace it with so just keeping it I guess, as it's a good all rounder and I love the way it looks more than anything else
My 2019 with circa 17k miles on it was offered £32.8k by Motorways back end of last year! That's when they were at their peak. Prices are coming down but still a bit mad personally.
I had initially wanted to wait for them to come down to circa £20k, and they almost did at one point (£20,999 for one with 40k miles I saw once) but when Honda stopped making them that's when the prices first rose.
Honda dealers are a bit hit and miss with warranty work - I've been refused a number of claims that others have had accepted at theirs - minor things, paint calliper lacquer peel, centre caps, seat parts feeling loose, but it doesn't seem consistent.
Build quality is poor compared to older Hondas (have an s2k as well and previous FD2, both better built) but this might be a common thing with modern cars I feel?
I'm not in love with it and don't think they're as fun to drive as others say, but I've kept it almost a year now and no idea what I'd replace it with so just keeping it I guess, as it's a good all rounder and I love the way it looks more than anything else
1 year on and used prices of low miles FK8's are nuts, but the new ones are silly money and there's a limited number of low miles for sale.It's the market we are in.If you did sell, what would replace it? Its such a great car that it stands on its own in the market, there's nothing else out there like it.Just bought a 4k miles 2020 version (non facelift) and paid top dollar but every car for sale was the same money and will be this way for some time to come.
Just did a deal on an FK8 in 'Sonic blue' (I think that is what it is called) should pick it up next week from the Honda dealer in Guildford. They are certainly holding their values well, but it is such a great car, I cannot wait!
Mine is a 2020 model but it doesn't have the teardrop gear knob, may get one of those. I assume these cars need to be run on super unleaded all of the time?
Mine is a 2020 model but it doesn't have the teardrop gear knob, may get one of those. I assume these cars need to be run on super unleaded all of the time?
maxwellwd said:
Just did a deal on an FK8 in 'Sonic blue' (I think that is what it is called) should pick it up next week from the Honda dealer in Guildford. They are certainly holding their values well, but it is such a great car, I cannot wait!
Mine is a 2020 model but it doesn't have the teardrop gear knob, may get one of those. I assume these cars need to be run on super unleaded all of the time?
Sonic Grey (Flat grey) Mine is a 2020 model but it doesn't have the teardrop gear knob, may get one of those. I assume these cars need to be run on super unleaded all of the time?
Blue in pre-facelift is a dark metallic .The gear knob not being teardrop means its not a facelift car (Very few of those about)
I have periodically run super unleaded but don't bother anymore and there is absolutely no discernable difference. You certainly don't need to run super unleaded.
They are utterly superb cars, the best "hot hatch" there has ever been - clear water better than any contemporary rival
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