2017 Honda Civic Type-R (FK8)

[maxwellwd]

Dblue said:

maxwellwd said:

Just did a deal on an FK8 in 'Sonic blue' (I think that is what it is called) should pick it up next week from the Honda dealer in Guildford. They are certainly holding their values well, but it is such a great car, I cannot wait!

Mine is a 2020 model but it doesn't have the teardrop gear knob, may get one of those. I assume these cars need to be run on super unleaded all of the time?

Sonic Grey (Flat grey)
Blue in pre-facelift is a dark metallic .The gear knob not being teardrop means its not a facelift car (Very few of those about)
I have periodically run super unleaded but don't bother anymore and there is absolutely no discernable difference. You certainly don't need to run super unleaded.
They are utterly superb cars, the best "hot hatch" there has ever been - clear water better than any contemporary rival

I see, thanks for the knowledge there. Were there periodic updates per model year on these?

Would like to keep it standard ideally (apart from the new gearknob) but the temptation to mod it is great.

[SagMan]

Dblue said:

Sonic Grey (Flat grey)
Blue in pre-facelift is a dark metallic .The gear knob not being teardrop means its not a facelift car (Very few of those about)
I have periodically run super unleaded but don't bother anymore and there is absolutely no discernable difference. You certainly don't need to run super unleaded.
They are utterly superb cars, the best "hot hatch" there has ever been - clear water better than any contemporary rival

Please can you outline what the upgrades / changes were for the facelift model. I know of the tear drop gear knob and alcantara steering wheel ?
Many thanks

[SagMan]

SagMan said:

Please can you outline what the upgrades / changes were for the facelift model. I know of the tear drop gear knob and alcantara steering wheel ?
Many thanks

Apologies, lazy question !!! Just googled facelift changes, below is copy from MotorTrend.

Honda last year made several changes to the 2020 Civic Type R, including a new, larger grille design and a modified radiator core. Those changes were motivated by a clear need to improve cooling, as some people who ran earlier Type Rs hard on racetracks experienced heat-soak on hot days that led to the car fizzling into power loss on successive laps. (Honda believes the grille and radiator updates have addressed the problem, though we'll have to wait until we can test the latest cars on a scorching day to see for ourselves.) Other changes included a revised front spoiler, a weighted shifter knob, an Alcantara steering wheel, and, despite the Type R's already excellent adaptive suspension setup, new suspension hardware and software.


among those latter changes were stiffer bushings and lower-friction ball joints up front; stiffer rear lower B-arm bushings for better toe-in behavior under cornering load; and revised dynamics for the adaptive dampers that Honda says now take "samples of road conditions 10-times quicker than before [for] more accurate damper reactions" and sharper handling. Finally, better Brembo front brakes capped-off the new package, as Honda added two-piece floating discs, pads with better heat-resistance, and reduced brake-pedal travel. Overall, Honda said the brake-system changes reduced unsprung weight by about 2.5 pounds per front corner

[SagMan]

SagMan said:

Please can you outline what the upgrades / changes were for the facelift model. I know of the tear drop gear knob and alcantara steering wheel ?
Many thanks

Apologies, lazy question !!! Just googled facelift changes, below is copy from MotorTrend.

Honda last year made several changes to the 2020 Civic Type R, including a new, larger grille design and a modified radiator core. Those changes were motivated by a clear need to improve cooling, as some people who ran earlier Type Rs hard on racetracks experienced heat-soak on hot days that led to the car fizzling into power loss on successive laps. (Honda believes the grille and radiator updates have addressed the problem, though we'll have to wait until we can test the latest cars on a scorching day to see for ourselves.) Other changes included a revised front spoiler, a weighted shifter knob, an Alcantara steering wheel, and, despite the Type R's already excellent adaptive suspension setup, new suspension hardware and software.


among those latter changes were stiffer bushings and lower-friction ball joints up front; stiffer rear lower B-arm bushings for better toe-in behavior under cornering load; and revised dynamics for the adaptive dampers that Honda says now take "samples of road conditions 10-times quicker than before [for] more accurate damper reactions" and sharper handling. Finally, better Brembo front brakes capped-off the new package, as Honda added two-piece floating discs, pads with better heat-resistance, and reduced brake-pedal travel. Overall, Honda said the brake-system changes reduced unsprung weight by about 2.5 pounds per front corner

[Dblue]

SagMan said:

SagMan said:

Please can you outline what the upgrades / changes were for the facelift model. I know of the tear drop gear knob and alcantara steering wheel ?
Many thanks

Apologies, lazy question !!! Just googled facelift changes, below is copy from MotorTrend.

Honda last year made several changes to the 2020 Civic Type R, including a new, larger grille design and a modified radiator core. Those changes were motivated by a clear need to improve cooling, as some people who ran earlier Type Rs hard on racetracks experienced heat-soak on hot days that led to the car fizzling into power loss on successive laps. (Honda believes the grille and radiator updates have addressed the problem, though we'll have to wait until we can test the latest cars on a scorching day to see for ourselves.) Other changes included a revised front spoiler, a weighted shifter knob, an Alcantara steering wheel, and, despite the Type R's already excellent adaptive suspension setup, new suspension hardware and softwar


among those latter changes were stiffer bushings and lower-friction ball joints up front; stiffer rear lower B-arm bushings for better toe-in behavior under cornering load; and revised dynamics for the adaptive dampers that Honda says now take "samples of road conditions 10-times quicker than before [for] more accurate damper reactions" and sharper handling. Finally, better Brembo front brakes capped-off the new package, as Honda added two-piece floating discs, pads with better heat-resistance, and reduced brake-pedal travel. Overall, Honda said the brake-system changes reduced unsprung weight by about 2.5 pounds per front corner

Its hardly night and day different but the facelift is tighter, better across gearchange, steering, braking and infotainment has some improvements.
I would change the knob and the alcantara wheel is nice.
Gearbox fragility with big torque is dubious and cooling on tracks an issue. Having said that I reckon a mild map to 340-350 would be fine. I found the ride much improved with Micheiln PS4S rather than the original Conti SC6's - But now have Conti SC7s which are as good as the Michelins.

[maxwellwd]

Good to hear this info as a soon to be owner.

What do you do about winter-tyres/all-season tyres? I go to Scotland quite a bit and wondering what the car would perform like with cross climates all year round?

[maxwellwd]

Also, does anyone know where to source the alcantara wheel at a good price? Would it require main dealer to fit?

[Dblue]

maxwellwd said:

Also, does anyone know where to source the alcantara wheel at a good price? Would it require main dealer to fit?

Royal steering wheels could help

[Stuart-B16A1]

Just read this thread in it's entirety and it's been very interesting as it's covered opinion on these cars from initial production, to present.

I've always loved performance Honda's for the driving experience and have loved these since they were introduced. Finally, after a few years, I'm going to be collecting mine tomorrow. A 2018 model with 50k, 2 previous owners, full Honda history and in PMM colour. It's cost me £22,900 but they've replaced a front shock, track rod end, 4 tyres for Continentals and fresh MOT and 'service', plus a discount to get 6 year service stuff completed at Honda (transmission oil/valve clearances etc)

How do we feel price are going to go? Obviously they've dropped a lot more like everything else has, but given the age, they're still relatively pricey. I'm interested to see what you guys/gals think.

[Commander2874]

Stuart-B16A1 said:

Just read this thread in it's entirety and it's been very interesting as it's covered opinion on these cars from initial production, to present.

I've always loved performance Honda's for the driving experience and have loved these since they were introduced. Finally, after a few years, I'm going to be collecting mine tomorrow. A 2018 model with 50k, 2 previous owners, full Honda history and in PMM colour. It's cost me £22,900 but they've replaced a front shock, track rod end, 4 tyres for Continentals and fresh MOT and 'service', plus a discount to get 6 year service stuff completed at Honda (transmission oil/valve clearances etc)

How do we feel price are going to go? Obviously they've dropped a lot more like everything else has, but given the age, they're still relatively pricey. I'm interested to see what you guys/gals think.

Congratulations on your new car, great deal and you will love it! I would say over next 3 years if doing about 10k a year you will prob be looking at £18-19k value.

TBH for the money these cars are just amazing and having had mine for nearly 4 years all i can say is i have no intention of getting rid unless i was to buy a FL5 or a GTS

[Haltamer]

maxwellwd said:

Good to hear this info as a soon to be owner.

What do you do about winter-tyres/all-season tyres? I go to Scotland quite a bit and wondering what the car would perform like with cross climates all year round?

I use a set of 18" Wheels (5x120, 8.5J, ET45 - Anything from ET60 to ET35 will work) with 245/45/18 Vredestein Quatrac Pro's.

There's a big selection of all season and winter tyres in that size though, so plenty to choose from if you wanted something more snow biased for the winter.

I have run them in the summer when I couldn't be bothered to swap and the car will still work perfectly well, but it is refreshing to have some UHP Tyres to compliment the warm & dry weather