PH Trackdayers, would you rather have...

[Evoluzione]

I don't think the original post is all that accurate in some areas and a little biased. A blog article on the subject here:
http://www.duratecnc.co.uk/?p=555

[Gouki]

Just to add a little bit of a different perspective to the Car A vs Car B discussion, having really enjoyed the UK and European trackday seen and moving to the US this year I noticed that the Americans do things a little different....

A usual MSV day at Brands, Snetterton or Bedford would be a relaxed open pitlane affair. Passing on the left only, no passing on the corners and generally a relaxed social day. One would do a few laps, come in to the pits have a coffee and a chat, no timing allowed and then the afternoon would basically be an empty trackday since most people took car B and wanted to get home and miss the M25 traffic.

Well at both Laguna Seca and Sonoma Raceway the sign on process is slightly different. See the copied and pasted text below:

"OP 1 - Sun (20+ Track Day Experience) Advance

(Required Laptime: 1:52 or under) Open passing (ADVANCE) run group. 20+ Track Experience required. This group will be monitored closely. Drivers will be moved out of this group for inadequate skill level or for driving off pace of the group.

OP 2 -Sun (20+ Track Day Experience) Advance

Required Laptime: 2:00 or under Open passing (ADVANCE) run group, Drivers must have 20+ track days' experience. This group will be monitored closely. Drivers will be moved out of this group for inadequate skill level or for driving off pace of the group

Mixed Group - Sun (11+ track day experience)

Point-by recommended run group.

Point-by Group -Sun (4+ track day experience)

Point-by passing required group"

Unfortunately car B combined with my talent level won't cut if if you want to get into the higher groups! So plenty of people will run very wide heavily track based tyres and mega power, there isn't a plethora of caterhams running around.....

[FNG]

Evoluzione said:

I don't think the original post is all that accurate in some areas and a little biased. A blog article on the subject here:
http://www.duratecnc.co.uk/?p=555

Oh look, another bellend throwing stereotypes around and sneering at those who don't do it his way.

A throbber said:

I can only think of one advantage to owning a combined R&T car and that is you can legally road test it or take it to the dyno, maybe for the occasional Saturday morning blat around your favourite roads, do some illegal and dangerous speeds, maybe have an accident if that’s your thing.

Despite previously outlining how he has a works van to tow, land to put a trailer on and a garage to put his A car in. Then throws everyone who doesn't trailer an A car to the track into one catch-all basket of antisocial or reckless behaviour.

[nickfrog]

braddo said:

Cadwell is a track I haven't been to yet - I'd love to go but it's so far away from (SW) London that it's probably only second to Knockhill for distance from down here!

What do you guys in the south-east do? Go up the night before and/or stay a night after?

I am even further away in Sussex. Yes staying locally the night before Cadwell. Going with friends so also a social occasion. The irony being that I am 10 miles FROM Goodwood but we never use it as I find it a bit boring after a few laps.

[C70R]

braddo said:

Cadwell is a track I haven't been to yet - I'd love to go but it's so far away from (SW) London that it's probably only second to Knockhill for distance from down here!

What do you guys in the south-east do? Go up the night before and/or stay a night after?

I'm also in SW London. The group I track with is going up the night before and staying at a hotel.

Thruxton, Brands, Silverstone, Coombe and Bedford are all easily doable from SW London, as is Goodwood (albeit pricey). Beyond that, you're looking at a night away.

[braddo]

I did Oulton as a day trip from London. Once.

[CABC]

braddo said:

I did Oulton as a day trip from London. Once.

one way to avoid rush hour.

[Partyvan]

Car A wasn't suited to the wet trackday at Oulton so the tow car got taken on instead!








What a fantastic day. Lots of sideways action and dozens of overtakes caught on camera including E36 M3, Caterham, 2x Megane 265, 2x new Megane Trophy R, EP3 Turbo, Boxster S, Audi RS5, Impreza, V12 Vantage and a brand new Elise!
Only one car came past me all day... a seriously quick Mk5 Golf Edition 30. It was absolutely ballistic!

[Partyvan]

So, I have a decision

Car A (my CRX) is going.

It's going to be replaced by an E92 M3 DCT, a 911 Turbo (996/997) with PCCB or a B7 RS4 Avant with carbon brakes.

All of the above would be in "Clubsport" spec with no silly mods.

[Tommie38]

B, having done both at different points.

I think that most people on PH that have highly modified/specialist cars rarely get the value from them. There are cars that I have spent what, at the time, was big money on things like suspension and brakes, only to realise I only ever did 4 TDs before I sold them...

Very different to the people with A that do lots of TDs, ‘ring trips or even things like hill climbs. For that A makes a lot more sense.

[Partyvan]

Tommie38 said:

B, having done both at different points.

I think that most people on PH that have highly modified/specialist cars rarely get the value from them. There are cars that I have spent what, at the time, was big money on things like suspension and brakes, only to realise I only ever did 4 TDs before I sold them...

Very different to the people with A that do lots of TDs, ‘ring trips or even things like hill climbs. For that A makes a lot more sense.

That makes sense

A car that gets it's monies worth from the mods you do to it