Nurburgring 2024

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Wh00sher

1,592 posts

219 months

Monday 11th March
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Kev, the pizzas have been available for years.

But a £9.95 pepperoni is £14.49 this year redface

When towing, it's over a grand return. I'm looking at some tunnel crossings this year. Even allowing for the added driving in the UK and on the mainland, it's still £200 cheaper each way.


The foxhole resurfacing is completed, it's not going to be as scary now the bumps halfway down are gone. I understand the bumps form over time and it was laid smooth originally, but it always added that little bit extra excitement.

fridaypassion

8,651 posts

229 months

Monday 11th March
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I try to eat before going on the boat the buffet is really nice but the same menu for 15 years and its the price of a mortgage. Croissant on the morning will do for me rather than a fry up. Oddly the beer isn't that expensive!

ukkid35

6,202 posts

174 months

Monday 11th March
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fridaypassion said:
Croissant on the morning will do for me rather than a fry up.
This is my favourite Croissant Stop on the way to the Ring

Boulangerie Delhaye Vecpré

https://maps.app.goo.gl/1vaS7b2XiJCQnK1j7

I'll drive a little further and then stop to appreciate the view while having breakfast


Digga

40,407 posts

284 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Wh00sher said:
The foxhole resurfacing is completed, it's not going to be as scary now the bumps halfway down are gone. I understand the bumps form over time and it was laid smooth originally, but it always added that little bit extra excitement.
Having watched Misha's video I am interested/concerned to know what the kerb through the fast left after the Foxhole compression is now. There's been some changes to it and it may be higher (or not) and may also be a bit worse if you glance it half-arsed, rather than go right over it.

Wh00sher

1,592 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Digga said:
Having watched Misha's video I am interested/concerned to know what the kerb through the fast left after the Foxhole compression is now. There's been some changes to it and it may be higher (or not) and may also be a bit worse if you glance it half-arsed, rather than go right over it.
I think it's similar to Hatzenbach when they resurfaced that several years ago.

The actual kerb is unchanged, but the new tarmac looks like it's a lower level, exposing more of the kerb.

Previously taking that kerb really helped in the dry, didn't unsettle the car at all, but like you, I'm not sure that's going to be the case now.


Cheburator mk2

3,001 posts

200 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Wh00sher said:
I think it's similar to Hatzenbach when they resurfaced that several years ago.

The actual kerb is unchanged, but the new tarmac looks like it's a lower level, exposing more of the kerb.

Previously taking that kerb really helped in the dry, didn't unsettle the car at all, but like you, I'm not sure that's going to be the case now.
Loved taking this kerb, but managed to turn some lovely Golf BBS wheels into the shape of dice years ago - sometimes you would get a huge triangular hole forming between the edge of the kerb and the flat concrete surface, where the ground would compress following prolonged wet weather/24h race. I find the GT3 is indifferent - it could go over, but was also equally happy just kissing the apex... I am guessing I would find out at DN in May...

Kev_Mk3

2,794 posts

96 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Wh00sher said:
Kev, the pizzas have been available for years.

But a £9.95 pepperoni is £14.49 this year redface

When towing, it's over a grand return. I'm looking at some tunnel crossings this year. Even allowing for the added driving in the UK and on the mainland, it's still £200 cheaper each way.


The foxhole resurfacing is completed, it's not going to be as scary now the bumps halfway down are gone. I understand the bumps form over time and it was laid smooth originally, but it always added that little bit extra excitement.
I did spot the prices never knew it was there before but the wait to get them was near a hour and the line didnt let up at all.

Networkgeek

404 posts

34 months

Wednesday 13th March
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I'm still in 2 minds whether or not to bother with the Ring this year.

A bunch of us used to go at least 2 times every year, and have done for the last 7/8 years. But the cost is nowhere near what it used to be. It used to cost around £800 for a long weekend, but now this just covers the Eurotunnel, accommodation and food. Last year I spent close to £1600 over 5 days, for context, I've just come back from a brilliant ski trip for the same money.

Then having to deal with the sheer amount of plebs on track, looking at Capital Car Company and all their "driver" mates.

I used to love TF, but it's far too busy and not worth the risk anymore for me.

I've looked at doing a TD instead of TF, but the cost of towing my M2 or Clio over is mental (circa 1k before any laps).

It goes without saying that prices have gone up across the board, but they're now at the point where I'd rather do something else.

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Edited by Networkgeek on Wednesday 13th March 15:20

Calza

2,004 posts

116 months

Saturday 16th March
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Is the track open today?

The diary says yes, but also no. The cams suggest not..

Kev_Mk3

2,794 posts

96 months

Saturday 16th March
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Networkgeek said:
I'm still in 2 minds whether or not to bother with the Ring this year.

A bunch of us used to go at least 2 times every year, and have done for the last 7/8 years. But the cost is nowhere near what it used to be. It used to cost around £800 for a long weekend, but now this just covers the Eurotunnel, accommodation and food. Last year I spent close to £1600 over 5 days, for context, I've just come back from a brilliant ski trip for the same money.

Then having to deal with the sheer amount of plebs on track, looking at Capital Car Company and all their "driver" mates.

I used to love TF, but it's far too busy and not worth the risk anymore for me.

I've looked at doing a TD instead of TF, but the cost of towing my M2 or Clio over is mental (circa 1k before any laps).

It goes without saying that prices have gone up across the board, but they're now at the point where I'd rather do something else.

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Edited by Networkgeek on Wednesday 13th March 15:20
TBF this was my thoughts as its changed so much it feels like we've had "the best years of it" but then new folk who haven't experienced it will think the same.

I've no trips booked or track days at the ring this year and its the first time since 2007! The cost is getting vast as you've pointed out, plebs crashing a lot more and just chaos all over. I've already done one track day elsewhere (Zandvoort) and absolutely loved it so will do Spa later in the year . These will be done for the same cost as a ring trip which I find mad.

I might pop in if I go to Spa but we will see. I think I just want to explore more now.


Calza said:
Is the track open today?

The diary says yes, but also no. The cams suggest not..
Yes open today

fridaypassion

8,651 posts

229 months

Saturday 16th March
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So judging by how Masher nearly destroyed the Kia EV press car the kerb at the top of Foxhole it looks like its a no go. Such a shame! Normally the changes that they do are for the better but this one looks like it could be pretty dangerous. If people aren't aware of the changes it looks like it could cause a few accidents. The smooth downhill section should make it even quicker that will be interesting it will feel very weird being smooth down there.

terryb

978 posts

245 months

Saturday 16th March
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fridaypassion said:
So judging by how Masher nearly destroyed the Kia EV press car the kerb at the top of Foxhole it looks like its a no go. Such a shame! Normally the changes that they do are for the better but this one looks like it could be pretty dangerous. If people aren't aware of the changes it looks like it could cause a few accidents. The smooth downhill section should make it even quicker that will be interesting it will feel very weird being smooth down there.
Agreed - which is a real shame as it was one of the highlights of the Ring - don’t think many will be going flat through the bottom of the foxhole any more frown

fridaypassion

8,651 posts

229 months

Saturday 16th March
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Someone commented on FB that there had already been a couple of accidents on the kerb....

Digga

40,407 posts

284 months

Sunday 17th March
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To my eye, that’s what it looked like it would be. As others say, a great shame, because cutting it as close to the Armco as you dare, at speed, was always a highlight.

Calza

2,004 posts

116 months

Sunday 17th March
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Do the cams just not work these days? Was hoping to start building the hype by seeing what this weekend was like!

WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Sunday 17th March
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I've got our time booked out in the first week of may. We're stringing together 2 evening TF sessions and then the holiday open day on Thursday - which are always chaos but I've had great experiences at the evening TF over the years. Many nearly clear laps.

Looking forwards to it. It's become a staple for my group of friends, huge fun and we do some sights, a stop at Ghent or Bruges on the way out, and make a mid week break of it.

I just need to get the Cayman together and aligned...

Calza

2,004 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th March
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What temp do they start thiking about closing the track? The weather has turned on my weekend madrage

If we hustle we can get to the track around 4pm Saturday, and Sunday was meant to be our main day:



I was never going to go fast, but that kind of weather starts dampening the enjoyment.

paulwirral

3,163 posts

136 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Calza said:
What temp do they start thiking about closing the track? The weather has turned on my weekend madrage

If we hustle we can get to the track around 4pm Saturday, and Sunday was meant to be our main day:



I was never going to go fast, but that kind of weather starts dampening the enjoyment.
The only time I’ve ever seen the track closed for weather reasons has been for dense thick fog , never for rain .


mmm-five

11,273 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th March
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paulwirral said:
The only time I’ve ever seen the track closed for weather reasons has been for dense thick fog , never for rain .
Similar here...although I've been there when it was closed for frost/ice/snow/hail (as early as April, and as late as November).

Even if it looks fine in the car park, it's usually the shaded areas or low-points of the track that take longest to clear.

Calza

2,004 posts

116 months

Tuesday 19th March
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paulwirral said:
The only time I’ve ever seen the track closed for weather reasons has been for dense thick fog , never for rain .
I was more thinking about temperature - or does that not bother them assuming no ice?