F90 M5 Competition

[HSimon]

Fulmentaljack3t said:

From the small number of pictures that i have seen the facelift looks good, but then I already liked how it looks. I do like the new colour options and I've had a bit of fun on the configurator looking at them.

I am not a fan of the new digital dash, I experienced it when i had an 8 series on loan for a few weeks and I just don't like the look of it. In general, i like the change to digital and being able to configure the dash to personal requirements/tastes but this particular one for me just looks sh*t and isn't very configurable.

I think the new adjustable dampers is a good thing and the ability to make it a bit softer, as for me that was the reason i went for the non-comp car. The added tech is good and what I feel is missing from the pre-facelift cars, pay a lot of money for a car that didn't have the latest tech/systems that others have.

In the new car, you will definitely have OPFs filters. It is also noted that the new car will have the pops and bangs removed too, by way of ECU tuning and mapping, so will not sound anything like as good as it could do, due to new regs etc.

Whoops, apologies, this should have been answering Terminators question. My IT skills are strong

Edited by HSimon on Saturday 27th June 18:31

[garystoybox]

All cars built since Sept 2019 will have ppf in line with the vehicle updates introduced at the time. The larger central display and live cockpit professional were also introduced at this time (although press release incorrectly saying with LCI) along with OS7 software.
Both pre and post Sept car sound absolutely identical in all driving modes with the exception of the artificial pops on overrun in sport plus being minimised/ programmed out. To be honest after not thinking I’d like them, after 2-3 days I was totally used to the digital displaySand now prefer them to the previous dials.
Will be interested to see what difference the new dampers make. I actually find the my Comp rides very nicely after initial concerns it may be too firm.

[JMBMWM5]

garystoybox said:

All cars built since Sept 2019 will have ppf in line with the vehicle updates introduced at the time. The larger central display and live cockpit professional were also introduced at this time (although press release incorrectly saying with LCI) along with OS7 software.
Both pre and post Sept car sound absolutely identical in all driving modes with the exception of the artificial pops on overrun in sport plus being minimised/ programmed out. To be honest after not thinking I’d like them, after 2-3 days I was totally used to the digital displaySand now prefer them to the previous dials.
Will be interested to see what difference the new dampers make. I actually find the my Comp rides very nicely after initial concerns it may be too firm.

After 8500 miles my M5 Comp rides much better, suspension has settled IMO.

[HSimon]

garystoybox said:

All cars built since Sept 2019 will have ppf in line with the vehicle updates introduced at the time. The larger central display and live cockpit professional were also introduced at this time (although press release incorrectly saying with LCI) along with OS7 software.
Both pre and post Sept car sound absolutely identical in all driving modes with the exception of the artificial pops on overrun in sport plus being minimised/ programmed out. To be honest after not thinking I’d like them, after 2-3 days I was totally used to the digital displaySand now prefer them to the previous dials.
Will be interested to see what difference the new dampers make. I actually find the my Comp rides very nicely after initial concerns it may be too firm.

I actually find my M5 Comp feels better damped when in sport, than in comfort, for some reason. Seems to hold itself up better on cut up surfaces, instead of crashing through them, which i find sometimes in comfort.

[Terminator X]

So I have my first oil change (not counting the RIS) at about 14k miles, all booked in with BMW tomorrow. Quick call today to check approx. cost ...

Over £500

Now I'm well aware of M Tax but ffs seriously, that must be some awesome oil presumably M Division have their own well somewhere that it comes from

TX.

Edit - oh and if the sparks need doing it will be over £1k ...

Edited by Terminator X on Monday 29th June 16:50

[Burwood]

Terminator X said:

So I have my first oil change (not counting the RIS) at about 14k miles, all booked in with BMW tomorrow. Quick call today to check approx. cost ...

Over £500

Now I'm well aware of M Tax but ffs seriously, that must be some awesome oil presumably M Division have their own well somewhere that it comes from

TX.

Edit - oh and if the sparks need doing it will be over £1k ...

Edited by Terminator X on Monday 29th June 16:50

I recall the 36k/3 yr service pack was £999. It would certainly irritate me

[Terminator X]

Burwood said:

I recall the 36k/3 yr service pack was £999. It would certainly irritate me

Even more annoying, they didn't offer it to me at the point of sale! Even more annoying when I had the RIS I knew about the £999 deal from others so tried to "buy it" however it had to be bought before the first service was carried out! The lady offered to not run the bill through until I had sorted it with BMW but BMW took days to get back to me any by the time they did the RIS was already "on the system" so they couldn't sell me the £999 deal!

TX.

[HoHoHo]

Terminator X said:

Burwood said:

I recall the 36k/3 yr service pack was £999. It would certainly irritate me

Even more annoying, they didn't offer it to me at the point of sale! Even more annoying when I had the RIS I knew about the £999 deal from others so tried to "buy it" however it had to be bought before the first service was carried out! The lady offered to not run the bill through until I had sorted it with BMW but BMW took days to get back to me any by the time they did the RIS was already "on the system" so they couldn't sell me the £999 deal!

TX.

If it helps you sleep tonight TX I have the service pack in my car and it’s due a service seems very good value for money.......

Hope you’re OK

[Burwood]

Just you wait mate!

[Terminator X]

HoHoHo said:

If it helps you sleep tonight TX I have the service pack in my car and it’s due a service seems very good value for money.......

Hope you’re OK

Lol that makes me feel better for sure

TX.

[Blue62]

Terminator X said:

So I have my first oil change (not counting the RIS) at about 14k miles, all booked in with BMW tomorrow. Quick call today to check approx. cost ...

Over £500

Now I'm well aware of M Tax but ffs seriously, that must be some awesome oil presumably M Division have their own well somewhere that it comes from

TX.

Edit - oh and if the sparks need doing it will be over £1k ...

Edited by Terminator X on Monday 29th June 16:50

Where would you stand (warranty wise) if you took it to an independent to carry out the oil change? Provided you use approved oil surely there wouldn't be a problem, it's just a consumable after all, like tyres or washer fluid?

[Terminator X]

Blue62 said:

Where would you stand (warranty wise) if you took it to an independent to carry out the oil change? Provided you use approved oil surely there wouldn't be a problem, it's just a consumable after all, like tyres or washer fluid?

It is with them now although for sure I will look in to that for the next one as £500 ish is daylight robbery. Oil is oil at the end of the day.

TX.

Edit - I know a chap with a 540 estate, similar engine (oil wise) I guess? He got his done at an Indie for £150

[Blue62]

Terminator X said:

It is with them now although for sure I will look in to that for the next one as £500 ish is daylight robbery. Oil is oil at the end of the day.

TX.

Edit - I know a chap with a 540 estate, similar engine (oil wise) I guess? He got his done at an Indie for £150

I have an RS6 PE and have used an independent for all consumables since new (now done 23,000 miles), Audi wanted £450 for engine oil and gasket change and I had the lot done for under £200. I take it to the main dealer for servicing but that's it and AFAIK it can't affect warranty under the European competition laws. If I keep the car beyond three years then I may have an issue if I have a problem and I'm looking for goodwill, at the moment I think I will keep the car as things are fairly uncertain looking forward, but I'm tempted by the M5 which is why I've been lurking on here.

[garystoybox]

What you’ll save on cost in servicing you’ll lose on trade in for certain.
If buying used M5, would you go for full dealer service history, with all software updates or a car with ‘Specialist stamps’?
Also no service books these days, service stored in idrive. Can independents access this?
It’s a £100k car, Imo just have to take it on the chin,the dealers nothing on the cars anyway and have to claw a bit of profit from somewhere.

[Blue62]

garystoybox said:

What you’ll save on cost in servicing you’ll lose on trade in for certain.
If buying used M5, would you go for full dealer service history, with all software updates or a car with ‘Specialist stamps’?
Also no service books these days, service stored in idrive. Can independents access this?
It’s a £100k car, Imo just have to take it on the chin,the dealers nothing on the cars anyway and have to claw a bit of profit from somewhere.

Yes an independent will have access to the software. I’ve owned various high end cars for the last 30 years or so, since the competition laws were introduced I’ve always taken them to a trusted indie for consumables, tyres, brakes, oil etc with no impact whatsoever on trade in, in fact Ive never even been asked the question. The list includes 911s, RS Audi’s and AMG Mercs without issue, always stuck to main dealer in my Ferrari days though, other than tyres. Maybe you’re confusing consumables with service, in which case there could be an impact on trade in, though I wouldn’t know as I always use main dealer for the service.

[Zanderman]

Quick question. Has anyone tracked their M5 comp? They are kind of made for it I think but I can’t bring myself to do it.

I did a M sport track day last year and really enjoyed it but was really conscious that it would eat through consumables at a fairly rapid rate. The consumables are so expensive on these that I can’t really see it being viable. Also seems way to expensive a car to risk on a track.....

[Jazzer]

Get it over to Germany on a derestricted section of an autobahn, the home of these M5s. The way these things go beyond 100mph makes them special!

[Terminator X]

Zanderman said:

Quick question. Has anyone tracked their M5 comp? They are kind of made for it I think but I can’t bring myself to do it.

I did a M sport track day last year and really enjoyed it but was really conscious that it would eat through consumables at a fairly rapid rate. The consumables are so expensive on these that I can’t really see it being viable. Also seems way to expensive a car to risk on a track.....

Mine has been on track x3 so far. I try to avoid Summer as the tracks are full of Caterhams who don't like being overtaken on the straights

Rear pads went quite quick; afaik the stability control / traction control trims speed etc using the rear brakes. BMW chap was surprised they had gone so quickly

14k miles overall and have had to replace rear tyres; fronts probably only have a few k left in them.

Apart from that all ok + she goes well for a Big Beast.

As an aside a few of my mates have RS3's and their tyres were destroyed when we did one single Summer day (their tyres seemed to go like marshmallow, really soft and squidgy) vs mine that didn't seem effected at all.



TX.

Edited by Terminator X on Tuesday 7th July 11:30

[likesachange]

Terminator X said:

Mine has been on track x3 so far. I try to avoid Summer as the tracks are full of Caterhams who don't like being overtaken on the straights

Rear pads went quite quick; afaik the stability control / traction control trims speed etc using the rear brakes. BMW chap was surprised they had gone so quickly

14k miles overall and have had to replace rear tyres; fronts probably only have a few k left in them.

Apart from that all ok + she goes well for a Big Beast.

As an aside a few of my mates have RS3's and their tyres were destroyed when we did one single Summer day (their tyres seemed to go like marshmallow, really soft and squidgy) vs mine that didn't seem effected at all.



TX.

Edited by Terminator X on Tuesday 7th July 11:30

On track do you notice a lot of difference when switching between the 2 and 4 WD?

[Terminator X]

likesachange said:

On track do you notice a lot of difference when switching between the 2 and 4 WD?

I'm not a good enough driver for RWD and +600hp! Kept it in 4WD albeit did switch TC off (part off then fully off) just to see what would happen. Part off allowed some slip albeit caught by the car after a moment or two. Even fully off it seemed to handle ok with the 4WD shuffling power around etc. Apart from the one Summer day both the other days were wet with many many cars sliding off track; the M5 stayed on track the whole time which is testament to it's many safety systems I guess + it was able to put all the power down all of the time.

TX.