Discussion
rstoughy said:
My advice is go and see it 1st prior to purchase 
If its the one I think it is then the wings and bonnet will be worth a close inspection. If its not then i apologise.
These CSL in general is starting to sky rocket, It was only a matter of time and looks like that is starting now. Another thing is Just wait until they can be exported to the USA.... that's going to push them up even harder.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with the above. If its the one I think it is then the wings and bonnet will be worth a close inspection. If its not then i apologise. These CSL in general is starting to sky rocket, It was only a matter of time and looks like that is starting now. Another thing is Just wait until they can be exported to the USA.... that's going to push them up even harder.
It had to happen one day and it’s finally arrived.
The days of £35k CSLs are a thing of the past.
Minimum nowadays is around £50k and that’s if you can find one!
America aren’t waiting until the panicked rush in 2028 now as they’re seem to be exported to all over the globe.
Journalists all over the web are salivating over the CSL whether in SMG or Manual format.
Owners won’t let them go easy.
I'd concur - get one while you can. I started looking just under a year ago and got an awful feeling around September that prices were going back up, and swiftly - nothing worse than a car you're looking for suddenly getting lots of media attention, all of it positive and seeming to talk prices up - yikes! Even the SMG box is being viewed in a different (more positive) light...
It's compounded by the difficulty of finding a good one: 422 RHD imported, only 144 are currently licensed according to howmanyleft - and of those, a few will have been abused/have stories; then if you are looking for something below the magic 60k miles, even fewer; and then it's whether anyone who has a good car like that wants to sell, and at a price you are comfortable with.
I ended up spending 30% more than I'd originally budgeted, though I did go for lower miles than planned. I'm mighty relieved that I did, as I could easily be looking at another 5k-plus now on what I spent, maybe more; and that is if I could find one...
Even higher miles ones are going up way more than I thought they would - in part because you have the likes of Harry Metcalf, Henry Catchpole and guys who are no mugs about values like James Cottingham from DK Engineering raving about the manual conversion - something people are more prepared to do on a higher miles car (though I suspect that may be changing).
It's not just due a reassessment - it's getting one now, and is being spoken of as the all-time high point of BMW M. But be careful out there - there are some real shockers. Best bet is to run a candidate past CSL Register, and also the various specialists to see if the car is known - both good and bad usually will be.
Good luck!
It's compounded by the difficulty of finding a good one: 422 RHD imported, only 144 are currently licensed according to howmanyleft - and of those, a few will have been abused/have stories; then if you are looking for something below the magic 60k miles, even fewer; and then it's whether anyone who has a good car like that wants to sell, and at a price you are comfortable with.
I ended up spending 30% more than I'd originally budgeted, though I did go for lower miles than planned. I'm mighty relieved that I did, as I could easily be looking at another 5k-plus now on what I spent, maybe more; and that is if I could find one...
Even higher miles ones are going up way more than I thought they would - in part because you have the likes of Harry Metcalf, Henry Catchpole and guys who are no mugs about values like James Cottingham from DK Engineering raving about the manual conversion - something people are more prepared to do on a higher miles car (though I suspect that may be changing).
It's not just due a reassessment - it's getting one now, and is being spoken of as the all-time high point of BMW M. But be careful out there - there are some real shockers. Best bet is to run a candidate past CSL Register, and also the various specialists to see if the car is known - both good and bad usually will be.
Good luck!
Edited by hvl69 on Monday 19th April 12:16
daviekiwi said:
I think i will keep my standard m3 for now, hard to justify another 20k plus for an smg gear boxed car with higher miles.
Thanks for the comments, would still love a csl though.
Yep think CSL will be a solid investment but personally think while v good cars but the smg box is a real negative as modern ones eg PDK are so much better and a manual box is high on list in a back to basics older sports carThanks for the comments, would still love a csl though.
dvshannow said:
Yep think CSL will be a solid investment but personally think while v good cars but the smg box is a real negative as modern ones eg PDK are so much better and a manual box is high on list in a back to basics older sports car
Everyone to their opinion on what they like in a car but if anyone wants back to basics how about a crash gearbox? I know plenty of people who can’t use a manual box properly let alone a crash box. Same goes for smg The cost of entry does seem to be rising rapidly, there are no cars on the market & owners are getting approached directly by those wanting to buy.
I've had loads of notes etc left on the car when out & about & people stopping me at petrol stations asking me to take their contact details if i decide to sell.
I've had loads of notes etc left on the car when out & about & people stopping me at petrol stations asking me to take their contact details if i decide to sell.
trawler said:
And while a very good car it was reduced to 43k as a few minor things needed doing. Definitely minimum entry level.
There’s also the cost of CSL parts to consider.The CSL in parts is probably worth close to that.
This period is the bit where you either get aboard the train or stand on the platform.
Mimimum for GT3 is around £70k so the minimum for the CSL being £50k is a realistic figure.
GT3 will always tip the CSL but when considering the CSL is made in much fewer numbers, lightweight track car and has rear seats it’s still an attractive option.
Gearbox will always cause a divide but you can even change that now!
I expect £60k minimum from the start of 2022 always keeping the £15-20k gap from the benchmark GT3.
I don't know if anyone else can confirm parts prices, but I saw a video recently in which a CSL specialist said that the seats were now £10k from BMW (unclear if each), and the door cards £5.5k a piece. So add in console, rear reats, etc, and you're looking at at least £25k in interior parts alone. He also said the plenum intake is £5.5k, then there's the roof... Add in exterior panels to that, and I guess you're pushing over £40k. Second hand prices (v new if available) may be 20% below that. So £30-35k in immediately obvious parts if a car is being broken for spares.
Edited by hvl69 on Wednesday 21st April 15:24
gizlaroc said:
darreni said:
Many of the parts are no longer avaliable from BMW & those that are have seen massive price hikes- the CSL boot lid was £600 - now £2.5k.
I remember paying £950 for a set of CSL rims back in the day, they were cheap as chips. 
hvl69 said:
I don't know if anyone else can confirm parts prices, but I saw a video recently in which a CSL specialist said that the seats were now £10k from BMW (unclear if each), and the door cards £5.5k a piece. So add in console, rear reats, etc, and you're looking at at least £25k in interior parts alone. He also said the plenum intake is £5.5k, then there's the roof... Add in exterior panels to that, and I guess you're pushing over £40k. Second hand prices (v new if available) may be 20% below that. So £30-35k in immediately obvious parts if a car is being broken for spares.
That’s about right.Edited by hvl69 on Wednesday 21st April 15:24
Looking around £40k and that’s not to mention the NLA parts.
It’s definitely the right time to start keeping these cars.
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