Is this the CSL era?

Is this the CSL era?

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Matthew7711

Original Poster:

104 posts

95 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Pip1968 said:
That as may be but still more engaging as a manual. They should also have made it more like a GT3 Clubsport with captive plates welded in for the option of a cage and six point harness but that is another story.

Anyway where have they all gone??? Is everyone sitting on them as an investment now ???? I can only see one previously for sale (and now sold) from Nick the serial CSL seller at GBP 78,000. He apparently has 11 buyers lined up - not sure if that is a catch all.

Pip
Owners seem to be keeping hold of them as the demand is through the roof at the moment and the price is only going one way.

They used to fluctuate in the past but not anymore.

Matthew7711

Original Poster:

104 posts

95 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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CSL geezer said:
I think as per the post title, this is the era of the CSL.

However I think the era is only just beginning as the car approaches it’s 20th anniversary next year which will be another turning point.
I heard about this.

I think by that time (with even fewer numbers and cars being exported) the entry price to own one of these will be shocking - but well deserved.

Kettmark

904 posts

155 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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One for sale now. £75k. Any takers?

Matthew7711

Original Poster:

104 posts

95 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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Won’t hang around long.

Even with the modifications - it’s still a CSL.

darreni

3,868 posts

272 months

Wednesday 27th October 2021
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One on collecting cars at the mo as well.

Tommie38

768 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th November 2021
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At 25 years, when they can be imported to the US, the market will go absolutely crazy.

They all know what a CSL is and they all know they need to wait to get one.

Bemmer

1,113 posts

204 months

Sunday 14th November 2021
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Genuine question.. would it be feasible and at what sort of cost would it be to change my E46 M3 to CSL spec..?

darreni

3,868 posts

272 months

Sunday 14th November 2021
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Bemmer said:
Genuine question.. would it be feasible and at what sort of cost would it be to change my E46 M3 to CSL spec..?
No, a large amount of parts are NLA. You'd be better off buying a CSL.

Matthew7711

Original Poster:

104 posts

95 months

Tuesday 16th November 2021
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Bemmer said:
Genuine question.. would it be feasible and at what sort of cost would it be to change my E46 M3 to CSL spec..?
It would cost a fortune and it will never be fully replicated as there’s so many parts NLA as already mentioned above.

Replica CSLs have been done to death.
OEM E46 M3 are holding their money nowadays and much more desirable.

Matthew7711

Original Poster:

104 posts

95 months

Tuesday 16th November 2021
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Tommie38 said:
At 25 years, when they can be imported to the US, the market will go absolutely crazy.

They all know what a CSL is and they all know they need to wait to get one.
I doubt it whether there will be many left in this country by 2028.

The demand will be too great.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

198 months

Saturday 11th December 2021
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My old car is coming up for auction!

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-bmw-e46-m...

Bowser87

1,341 posts

185 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
My old car is coming up for auction!

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-bmw-e46-m...
A friend of mine is interested in the car. Do you have any details or insight from your ownership?

MitchT

15,997 posts

211 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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Pip1968 said:
A fabulous car but they should still have made a manual version.

Pip wink
There's a conversion: https://youtu.be/xgBQSn9A4yk

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th December 2021
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Bowser87 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
My old car is coming up for auction!

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2003-bmw-e46-m...
A friend of mine is interested in the car. Do you have any details or insight from your ownership?
What would you like to know?

Bowser87

1,341 posts

185 months

Sunday 19th December 2021
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What years did you own the car? Did you do the mods or was it this current owner? Boot floor replaced by BMW, reinforced or just the standard item with the epoxy or whatever it was they added?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th December 2021
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I did nothing to the car except (I recall) some basic servicing.

I owned it in 2008-09 I think, taking it from 20-odd thousand miles to thirty something. It was a long time ago but was my only car so daily driven all year round.

I bought it to learn the Nurburgring, being the SMG (I'd started learning it in an Exige but had a few close calls) and I wanted a black one as it hid the carbon roof-as I drove it to work I figured folk would just think it a black BMW, if they knew cars just an M3.

No offs during my ownership, it needed a full front end re-spray and new windscreen by the time I'd finished with it but that wasn't unusual with them. The ad mentions corrosion on the front wings-I thought one rear wing had corrosion but I might be misremembering-possibly the offside? I figured it had had a bit of paint before I owned it or maybe taken a knock on one side.

The car was definitely straight though-I wouldn't have bought a dog.

As I said, car was driven daily but my commute was less than a mile, it was mainly used on track-I still have some photos somewhere and it was brilliant at that. We gave it absolute death but they weren't garage queens back then. If I remember correctly it used a litre of oil every weekend at the ring or maybe every track day at somewhere like Le Mans.

The gearbox threw up a warning light once riding the curbs but never did it again.

As I recall when I sold it, it needed new tyres, brakes, a big service, windscreen was cracked etc. I looked at it and it needed a big chunk of money throwing at it and part-exchanged it for a brand new Megane R26.R-my mates thought I'd lost the plot!






I have some great memories of the car, burning across the continent at full throttle is something you just can't get away with these days-it would show 180mph on the sat nav all day long but boy did it empty a tank quick at those speeds! One of my mates still maintains being a passenger in it was the scariest experience of his life and he's a free climber!

The M mode on the traction control was perfect, it would hold third gear drifts right up to the red line and into fourth gear if the roads were cold, such a friendly car at the limit. And the noise!

I think whoever owned it after me has done the absolute business with it, brought it right up to standard. I still have a dealer poster for the car that BMW gave me framed in the garage "100% muscle 0% fat" it says and it really felt like that.

Kettmark

904 posts

155 months

Sunday 19th December 2021
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Currently at £51k with 24 hours to go but I think it will go for nearer £60k.

Matthew7711

Original Poster:

104 posts

95 months

Sunday 19th December 2021
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I did nothing to the car except (I recall) some basic servicing.

I owned it in 2008-09 I think, taking it from 20-odd thousand miles to thirty something. It was a long time ago but was my only car so daily driven all year round.

I bought it to learn the Nurburgring, being the SMG (I'd started learning it in an Exige but had a few close calls) and I wanted a black one as it hid the carbon roof-as I drove it to work I figured folk would just think it a black BMW, if they knew cars just an M3.

No offs during my ownership, it needed a full front end re-spray and new windscreen by the time I'd finished with it but that wasn't unusual with them. The ad mentions corrosion on the front wings-I thought one rear wing had corrosion but I might be misremembering-possibly the offside? I figured it had had a bit of paint before I owned it or maybe taken a knock on one side.

The car was definitely straight though-I wouldn't have bought a dog.

As I said, car was driven daily but my commute was less than a mile, it was mainly used on track-I still have some photos somewhere and it was brilliant at that. We gave it absolute death but they weren't garage queens back then. If I remember correctly it used a litre of oil every weekend at the ring or maybe every track day at somewhere like Le Mans.

The gearbox threw up a warning light once riding the curbs but never did it again.

As I recall when I sold it, it needed new tyres, brakes, a big service, windscreen was cracked etc. I looked at it and it needed a big chunk of money throwing at it and part-exchanged it for a brand new Megane R26.R-my mates thought I'd lost the plot!






I have some great memories of the car, burning across the continent at full throttle is something you just can't get away with these days-it would show 180mph on the sat nav all day long but boy did it empty a tank quick at those speeds! One of my mates still maintains being a passenger in it was the scariest experience of his life and he's a free climber!

The M mode on the traction control was perfect, it would hold third gear drifts right up to the red line and into fourth gear if the roads were cold, such a friendly car at the limit. And the noise!

I think whoever owned it after me has done the absolute business with it, brought it right up to standard. I still have a dealer poster for the car that BMW gave me framed in the garage "100% muscle 0% fat" it says and it really felt like that.
Great read.

Be interesting to see what it sells for.

Must be around the £70k mark.

What do you drive now?


LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

198 months

Sunday 19th December 2021
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I'm now living the slow life driving a 660cc Caterham Super Sprint !

I am lucky enough to still go out to track days and the 'ring with my best mate from all those years back in his 997 GT3 RS as well though, although Covid has put much of the euro hoons off for the last couple of years.

Back then he had an e60 M5 and then a GTR when they first came out, we had a heck of a laugh in them back then. On the CSL, a few years later I bought a Z4M coupe as another way to scratch the itch of that engine but it wasn't really the same.

Amazing if it fetches something like the figures mentioned above-supply and demand I guess!

Pip1968

1,349 posts

206 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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So £62,001 plus fees in the end. Not as high as the £80,000 some seem to be asking for.

Pip