CSL advice

CSL advice

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nickbell3

119 posts

225 months

Sunday 3rd September 2006
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....."Black is so yesterday"

What a load of rubbish!!! CSL's look great in black, more exclusive too.

DoctorD

1,542 posts

259 months

Sunday 3rd September 2006
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AP Brakes just add to the "OMG Awesome" feel of the car. They're not necessary but then neither are half the things we really enjoy in life, but you'd never be without them if you knew what they're like. I took my car out for a drive today and the way you can just overtake, wipe of speed with disdain and then blast on to the next corner never ceases to put a smile on my face.

I've owned mine since new 3 years ago and there are three main modifications that I made which I would thoroughly recommend to prospective owners; 6-pot AP brakes (but only on front + Pagid Rs19 pads all round), 100 cell race cats + removal of the central resonator and finally adjust the front camber to -2 degrees.

Oh yes, and finally make sure you drive it every now and again on Cup tyres - it's like a fairground ride.

DasChin

609 posts

219 months

Sunday 3rd September 2006
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i am just buying a black one and they are better.

the SG ones look too max power with all the carbon on display ;-)

just kidding as not matter what colour or combo, you have an awesome drivers car.

just cone out of a 911 996 C" and everyone thinks I am mad! I will be the one smiling as I am driving the diablo in jesus's clothing!!

respect to all CSL owners

DoctorD

1,542 posts

259 months

Sunday 3rd September 2006
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Have a read of the buying guide over on BM3W (also recently plagurised in Total BMW), and make sure you are aware of all the warranty recalls that 'should' have been done. Particularly make sure the RTAB (i.e. rear bushes) have been replaced, which have tended to wear prematurely and allow the rear wheels to toe-in under braking and acceleration. It makes a BIG difference to how the car drives.

phatgixer

4,988 posts

252 months

Sunday 3rd September 2006
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...and don't buy a black one. Kajagoogoo colour.

Too shy..

phatgixer

4,988 posts

252 months

Sunday 3rd September 2006
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DasChin said:
just cone out of a 911 996 C" and everyone thinks I am mad!


The poor things don't know. The silly Porkah bunch honestly think the C2/C4S are a match.

A properly setup CSL is better than a GT3 and nearly as fine as an RS...

bennno

12,022 posts

272 months

Sunday 3rd September 2006
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phatgixer said:
DasChin said:
just cone out of a 911 996 C" and everyone thinks I am mad!


The poor things don't know. The silly Porkah bunch honestly think the C2/C4S are a match.

A properly setup CSL is better than a GT3 and nearly as fine as an RS...


In which case you have to ask why bmw felt the need to fit it with a V8 before it went racing against Porsche?

The CSL is a good car but i dont think its 'better' than a GT3 in experienced hands.

Bennno

phatgixer

4,988 posts

252 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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bennno said:
phatgixer said:
DasChin said:
just cone out of a 911 996 C" and everyone thinks I am mad!


The poor things don't know. The silly Porkah bunch honestly think the C2/C4S are a match.

A properly setup CSL is better than a GT3 and nearly as fine as an RS...


In which case you have to ask why bmw felt the need to fit it with a V8 before it went racing against Porsche?

The CSL is a good car but i dont think its 'better' than a GT3 in experienced hands.

Bennno


QED...

Carrera2

Original Poster:

8,352 posts

235 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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phatgixer said:
bennno said:
phatgixer said:
DasChin said:
just cone out of a 911 996 C" and everyone thinks I am mad!


The poor things don't know. The silly Porkah bunch honestly think the C2/C4S are a match.

A properly setup CSL is better than a GT3 and nearly as fine as an RS...


In which case you have to ask why bmw felt the need to fit it with a V8 before it went racing against Porsche?

The CSL is a good car but i dont think its 'better' than a GT3 in experienced hands.

Bennno


QED...


He's disagreeing with you there though... Never mind - i've thoroughly confused myself regarding cars now.

ibroker

658 posts

261 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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I have been debating what to do with my 04 25T car,

It sits in the garage not doing much, its the depreciation thing that niggles me, something sitting in the garage potentially losing money.

Oh decisions decisions.

Could be worse.

DasChin

609 posts

219 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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a sorted CSL is prob a 90 % match for a std GT3 or RS with a good driver.

but then if you tweak the porker with some manthey bits then it will not be the same I am afraid.

I went out in a few manthey breathed on GT3s and RSs at the ring and they were so so much better than std!!

oola

2,534 posts

226 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Yes but from a price perspective you would be spending almost twice as much for the GT3 RS including tuning.

I can't wait to wait to get one.

DasChin

609 posts

219 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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agreed on all points re price n that

hence the reason for getting the CSL as there is nothing out there of the same age or performance or price that even comes close to the CSL!

I can't wait to get mine and to put some decent miles on her!!

The Dude

6,546 posts

250 months

Monday 4th September 2006
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Black ones are faster, don't believe Angus.

hehe

Dave 321

558 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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Silvergrey on Autotrader wit 50k. For asking price of £28,500. .. Has to be worth a look. Bargain if you rob it for £27,000

s3am

1,383 posts

255 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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I keep saying this, but the black ones aren't faster.

oola

2,534 posts

226 months

Tuesday 5th September 2006
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Dave 321 said:
Silvergrey on Autotrader wit 50k. For asking price of £28,500. .. Has to be worth a look. Bargain if you rob it for £27,000


I might be wrong but doesn't that one have some 'history'? There was one of similar mileage knocking round a short while back which was partially rebuilt as Damon Hill decided he wanted more of a Bangle design edge to the car ... hehe

option click

1,167 posts

229 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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At the risk of taking this off topic, I've been thinking about CSLs recently.
I was chatting to a dealer (obviously not the most impartial source of info, as he was trying to sell me a Z4 MC) who mentioned, and I quote "the non-adjustable seats" and "the cardboard boot floor".

Obviously an exaggeration, but just how much adjustment do the seats have?
Presumably the boot floor is lightweight (carbon fibre?), but has this been an issue with owners for some reason or another?

Please dispel these damn lies and put my mind at rest!

DasChin

609 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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the cheapo grey one on AT is the ex P1 car!

I have been out in it both as a passenger and driver. we were on the lock stock everywhere we went and what a hoot to drive when it is not your car and someone else! A mate of mine from work is in P1.

as for buying it then forget it!

the one at david oldham cars for another grand has had a far better life!!

I am hoping the CSL will depreciate like the GT3s....take a big hit then remain desirable to those in the know!!

The Dude

6,546 posts

250 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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option click said:
At the risk of taking this off topic, I've been thinking about CSLs recently.
I was chatting to a dealer (obviously not the most impartial source of info, as he was trying to sell me a Z4 MC) who mentioned, and I quote "the non-adjustable seats" and "the cardboard boot floor".

Obviously an exaggeration, but just how much adjustment do the seats have?
Presumably the boot floor is lightweight (carbon fibre?), but has this been an issue with owners for some reason or another?

Please dispel these damn lies and put my mind at rest!



Seats aren't adjustable apart from back and forward slide and you can slightly adjust the angle but it involves the removal of screws to make the adjustment i.e not something you can fiddle with on a daily basis.

Boot floor is partly made from honeycombed cardboard (IIRC - not actually looked) - I've carted guitar amplifiers and all sorts of other heavy stuff in mine with no issue at all. Nothing to get concerned about.