CSL advice

CSL advice

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bennno

12,027 posts

272 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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option click said:
At the risk of taking this off topic, I've been thinking about CSLs recently.
I was chatting to a dealer (obviously not the most impartial source of info, as he was trying to sell me a Z4 MC) who mentioned, and I quote "the non-adjustable seats" and "the cardboard boot floor".

Obviously an exaggeration, but just how much adjustment do the seats have?
Presumably the boot floor is lightweight (carbon fibre?), but has this been an issue with owners for some reason or another?

Please dispel these damn lies and put my mind at rest!



The seats slide forwards and backwards. The boot floor is made of some sort of fibre, you wouldnt want to fill it with bricks for this reason.

He could have also thrown in that the carbon fibre interior resonates with the loud engine and the ride is very stiff, but its that type of car so whaddya expect...

Bennno

Dave Dax builder

662 posts

262 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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Don't ask me how but I'm 6'3" and my wife is 5'4" and we have managed to get the seat so I'm comfy and she can see over the steering wheel.
I think we have the rear of the seat on the lowest setting and the front on the middle. The rest we can do on the runners.
The whole underside of the CSL is made of metal just like every other E46. The boot floor/spare wheel/tyre inflator cover is made of lighter material that the regular M3 but as with the regular M3 it sits directly on a moulded polystyrene base. I have transported a Jag diff in my boot and it was still in there when i arrived at my destination.

Edited by Dave Dax builder on Wednesday 6th September 20:35

Zod

35,295 posts

261 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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bennno said:
option click said:
At the risk of taking this off topic, I've been thinking about CSLs recently.
I was chatting to a dealer (obviously not the most impartial source of info, as he was trying to sell me a Z4 MC) who mentioned, and I quote "the non-adjustable seats" and "the cardboard boot floor".

Obviously an exaggeration, but just how much adjustment do the seats have?
Presumably the boot floor is lightweight (carbon fibre?), but has this been an issue with owners for some reason or another?

Please dispel these damn lies and put my mind at rest!



The seats slide forwards and backwards. The boot floor is made of some sort of fibre, you wouldnt want to fill it with bricks for this reason.

He could have also thrown in that the carbon fibre interior resonates with the loud engine and the ride is very stiff, but its that type of car so whaddya expect...

Bennno
You soone learn that the seats only slide if you don't lock them properly. Always amusing to see a passenger zoom to the back of the runners under har acceleration. rofl

I found the CF didn't resonate, although I had feared it would. The car does develop a new rattle every drive though. The boot floor under the carpeted board is metal.

bennno

12,027 posts

272 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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yes i meant they slide backwards and forwards in terms of adjustment?

bennno

BRoCceRs

3,236 posts

256 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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Dave Dax builder said:
Don't ask me how but I'm 6'3" and my wife is 5'4" and we have managed to get


Anyone else lose track at that point ?

d1bble

3,285 posts

266 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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Why didn't you buggars tell me the CSL was so much fun, i'd have got one instead of the M3.

i don't read enough.grumpy

p490kvp

728 posts

251 months

Wednesday 6th September 2006
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Best mod is to have the front wheels changed for rears - so you effectively have 4 rear wheels on the car - the turn in is just mega then

oola

2,534 posts

226 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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p490kvp said:
Best mod is to have the front wheels changed for rears - so you effectively have 4 rear wheels on the car - the turn in is just mega then


Does that make the car have 4wd too?





hehe

nbetts

1,455 posts

232 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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bennno said:
The boot floor is made of some sort of fibre, you wouldnt want to fill it with bricks for this reason.


You have got to love good old Clarkson for this Urban Myth.

The CSL boot is the same as every other E46 out there, with one exception. THE BOOT MAT is made of a recycled fibre (possibly cardboard) material and therefore is about .5kg lighter...

Everyone used to ask me about my cardboard boot...

The Dude

6,546 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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nbetts said:
bennno said:
The boot floor is made of some sort of fibre, you wouldnt want to fill it with bricks for this reason.


You have got to love good old Clarkson for this Urban Myth.

The CSL boot is the same as every other E46 out there, with one exception. THE BOOT MAT is made of a recycled fibre (possibly cardboard) material and therefore is about .5kg lighter...

Everyone used to ask me about my cardboard boot...


First thing my neighbour asked when I got the car. rolleyes

bennno

12,027 posts

272 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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The Dude said:
nbetts said:
bennno said:
The boot floor is made of some sort of fibre, you wouldnt want to fill it with bricks for this reason.


You have got to love good old Clarkson for this Urban Myth.

The CSL boot is the same as every other E46 out there, with one exception. THE BOOT MAT is made of a recycled fibre (possibly cardboard) material and therefore is about .5kg lighter...

Everyone used to ask me about my cardboard boot...


First thing my neighbour asked when I got the car. rolleyes




the boot was different on my CSL to that of my M3. as confirmed in the sales brochure the boot tray / boot floor is made of a cardboard / carbon fibre composite.

has yours been swapped?


Bennno

The Dude

6,546 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th September 2006
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bennno said:
The Dude said:
nbetts said:
bennno said:
The boot floor is made of some sort of fibre, you wouldnt want to fill it with bricks for this reason.


You have got to love good old Clarkson for this Urban Myth.

The CSL boot is the same as every other E46 out there, with one exception. THE BOOT MAT is made of a recycled fibre (possibly cardboard) material and therefore is about .5kg lighter...

Everyone used to ask me about my cardboard boot...


First thing my neighbour asked when I got the car. rolleyes




the boot was different on my CSL to that of my M3. as confirmed in the sales brochure the boot tray / boot floor is made of a cardboard / carbon fibre composite.

has yours been swapped?


Bennno


Me?

I don't understand where the quote came from - certainly not me.

scratchchin

bennno

12,027 posts

272 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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scroll back 3 posts on this thread is that not your comment?

bennno

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

262 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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The actual boot floor is metal, same as the M3, the carpets are different so I guess it depends on your definition of boot floor.

nbetts

1,455 posts

232 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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bennno said:
The Dude said:
nbetts said:
bennno said:
The boot floor is made of some sort of fibre, you wouldnt want to fill it with bricks for this reason.


You have got to love good old Clarkson for this Urban Myth.

The CSL boot is the same as every other E46 out there, with one exception. THE BOOT MAT is made of a recycled fibre (possibly cardboard) material and therefore is about .5kg lighter...

Everyone used to ask me about my cardboard boot...


First thing my neighbour asked when I got the car. rolleyes


Benno - Trust me old chap. The boot is the same as every other E46.



the boot was different on my CSL to that of my M3. as confirmed in the sales brochure the boot tray / boot floor is made of a cardboard / carbon fibre composite.

has yours been swapped?


Bennno

nbetts

1,455 posts

232 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Benno - I have just thumbed through my M3 CSL Sales Brochure - Damn I was saving it as well... and I Quote...

...Innovative lightweight technologies must be used to optimise existing components. The roof as well as the front and rear apron are made entirley form Carbon-fibre reinforced plastic (CFP), as is the door trim and the centre console. The boot (meaning Boot Lid) is made of glass-fibre reinforced Duroplast and the rear window of thin glass. The LOADING BAY FLOOR is a glass-fibre/paper composite tray... Tray = Boot mat.

It really is the same as every other E46.

beer

bennno

12,027 posts

272 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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m12_nathan said:
The actual boot floor is metal, same as the M3, the carpets are different so I guess it depends on your definition of boot floor.


(the bodyshell is metal thats taken as a given.)

I would define boot floor as the base of the boot, i.e. the item that spans over the top of the spare wheel recess.

This to my knowledge was wood with a carpet covering in my standard M3 whilst on the CSL it is composite carboard / carbon or am I missing something here?

Bennno

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

262 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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The carpet thing is made of cardboard honeycomb stuff, no carbon in it as far as I know.

It's easier to say the carpet is lighter as it makes it clear your shopping won't fall through on to the road when you place it in the cardboard "boot".

In short I think you're both right.

Carrera2

Original Poster:

8,352 posts

235 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Thanks for all the advice guys.

I've put a deposit down on an 04 plate CSL today. bounce

A week Saturday I'm collecting it so I'll get some piccys up then - now I just need to get through the next 7 days.

fidgits

17,202 posts

232 months

Friday 8th September 2006
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Carrera2 said:
Thanks for all the advice guys.

I've put a deposit down on an 04 plate CSL today. bounce

A week Saturday I'm collecting it so I'll get some piccys up then - now I just need to get through the next 7 days.


Congrats mate!