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roscobbc said:
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If you want some that is perhaps a little 'left field', quite rare and with a 428 cu in engine and probably far quicker than similar 60's barges and well on par with 'muscle cars' of the day for £13K (and I know its too big for your garage) - if not sold........
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1313307

Thanks rosco - yes I would gladly give that a home if it would fit inside my garage!If you want some that is perhaps a little 'left field', quite rare and with a 428 cu in engine and probably far quicker than similar 60's barges and well on par with 'muscle cars' of the day for £13K (and I know its too big for your garage) - if not sold........
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1313307

Edited by roscobbc on Sunday 11th April 22:38
Edited by roscobbc on Sunday 11th April 22:47
After a 260 mile round trip yesterday, I've left a deposit on this. It's a really good solid car, with a few bits here and there left to do to keep me occupied. I won't be able to pick it up for a couple of weeks, but I've wanted a muscle car for as long as I can remember, I feel like a kid (albeit a 47 year old one) on Christmas Eve. 





LeighW said:
After a 260 mile round trip yesterday, I've left a deposit on this. It's a really good solid car, with a few bits here and there left to do to keep me occupied. I won't be able to pick it up for a couple of weeks, but I've wanted a muscle car for as long as I can remember, I feel like a kid (albeit a 47 year old one) on Christmas Eve. 


Looks a stunning car, Had a couple of them and you want be disappointed,


Great feeling to have especially with the whole summer ahead, Enjoy .

Thanks fellas - don't know why I hadn't spotted this thread before! 
It's not perfect by any stretch, there are some slight fish eyes in the lacquer on the roof, the dash and centre console could do with tidying a bit, I don't like the steering wheel, but nothing major. I took my mate who's a panel beater, he was crawling all over and under it, and he says the metal work has been done well (new rear quarters and sills). It's also had floors at some point as well, but zero rust that I could find. It's not ripply at all - black paint does show everything - and the panel gaps are really good. I've got loads of photos of it in bare metal, so it shouldn't be hiding any nasty surprises - fingers crossed.
It smells like an old car inside (not in a bad way), it's noisy, it rattles over bumps and the ride's a bit crashy, but I was grinning like a child on the test drive, which is what it's all about I think! It's not super quick, but it pulls pretty well.
From checking the VIN it's an original V8 car, but it does have a non numbers matching 350 (is there a stamping on these that would tell me what year etc it is?) with a TH350 box. Power steering and power brakes - drums all round though. They stopped it well enough, but I'm assuming there are front disc conversions our there which I might look at. I love the stance though, I'm not a fan of massive wheels with super low profiles, they just look wrong to me.
I'll no doubt be back here for some advice, so apologies in advance!

It's not perfect by any stretch, there are some slight fish eyes in the lacquer on the roof, the dash and centre console could do with tidying a bit, I don't like the steering wheel, but nothing major. I took my mate who's a panel beater, he was crawling all over and under it, and he says the metal work has been done well (new rear quarters and sills). It's also had floors at some point as well, but zero rust that I could find. It's not ripply at all - black paint does show everything - and the panel gaps are really good. I've got loads of photos of it in bare metal, so it shouldn't be hiding any nasty surprises - fingers crossed.
It smells like an old car inside (not in a bad way), it's noisy, it rattles over bumps and the ride's a bit crashy, but I was grinning like a child on the test drive, which is what it's all about I think! It's not super quick, but it pulls pretty well.
From checking the VIN it's an original V8 car, but it does have a non numbers matching 350 (is there a stamping on these that would tell me what year etc it is?) with a TH350 box. Power steering and power brakes - drums all round though. They stopped it well enough, but I'm assuming there are front disc conversions our there which I might look at. I love the stance though, I'm not a fan of massive wheels with super low profiles, they just look wrong to me.
I'll no doubt be back here for some advice, so apologies in advance!

The Ponty 350 is different to the SBC 350, so there's a bit of research for you to do there. Think it's a smaller bore but longer stoke, so should be torquey. There will be a website somewhere that will tell you all you want to know re numbers etc.
The basics here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_V8_engine#35...
The basics here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_V8_engine#35...

I'll be spamming the thread with pics (and questions), don't worry!
Don't get me wrong, this is a lot of money to me and has used some savings that I really should have put in my pension, but you can't drive a pension. I used man maths that said it shouldn't depreciate as long as I take care of it, plus zero road tax is a bonus. I figured if I don't do it now, they'll just be out of my reach. I can remember looking at a 68 Charger at the Mopar Nats at Santa Pod maybe nine or ten years or so ago that was for sale for £17k, and thinking 'that's expensive'. Yeah...
some bloke said:
The Ponty 350 is different to the SBC 350, so there's a bit of research for you to do there. Think it's a smaller bore but longer stoke, so should be torquey. There will be a website somewhere that will tell you all you want to know re numbers etc.
The basics here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_V8_engine#35...
Ah. Schoolboy error. I just assumed it was a 350 SBC, the seller said it was stamped 350. It looks like this if that's any help. The basics here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_V8_engine#35...


rat rod said:
roscobbc said:
rat rod said:
My dad had a manual gunmetal grey with red interior 3.8 MK10 and we were coming back from London
on the old A 33 road near Winchester about one in the morning doing around 120 and he forgot that there was a narrow hump back bridge
coming up, went over the bridge without touching the brake pedal and literally took off all four wheels leaving the ground, it landed
with a bit of a bang and weaved around a little but stayed straight , if we had been in a MK 2 i think we would have ended up like
Mike Hawthorn. Just remember all of us leaving our seats and banging our heads on the roof.
One of the Chelmsford rodders, Keith Smith had (probably still has) that green 500 cu in BB Chevy powered 'pro street' mark 10 Jag. That has gone through various guises, including single anmd twin Prochargers. Last time I spoke with him pre-Covid I think he was building-up a LS3 engine for it. Amazing vehicle really. With its tube chassis is acrually weighs-up several hundred pounds lighter than a stock Mark10. He used to go to all the major rod and drag meetings in Europe AND towing a caravan too........on the old A 33 road near Winchester about one in the morning doing around 120 and he forgot that there was a narrow hump back bridge
coming up, went over the bridge without touching the brake pedal and literally took off all four wheels leaving the ground, it landed
with a bit of a bang and weaved around a little but stayed straight , if we had been in a MK 2 i think we would have ended up like
Mike Hawthorn. Just remember all of us leaving our seats and banging our heads on the roof.



Looks as good if not better in the flesh, Like the way he's kept the interior almost in tact and kept it Jaguar like.
Some clever people in this hobby of ours, firstly to have the vision in the first place then to put it in place.
Bloody marvellous

LeighW said:
Thanks fellas - don't know why I hadn't spotted this thread before! 
It's not perfect by any stretch, there are some slight fish eyes in the lacquer on the roof, the dash and centre console could do with tidying a bit, I don't like the steering wheel, but nothing major. I took my mate who's a panel beater, he was crawling all over and under it, and he says the metal work has been done well (new rear quarters and sills). It's also had floors at some point as well, but zero rust that I could find. It's not ripply at all - black paint does show everything - and the panel gaps are really good. I've got loads of photos of it in bare metal, so it shouldn't be hiding any nasty surprises - fingers crossed.
It smells like an old car inside (not in a bad way), it's noisy, it rattles over bumps and the ride's a bit crashy, but I was grinning like a child on the test drive, which is what it's all about I think! It's not super quick, but it pulls pretty well.
From checking the VIN it's an original V8 car, but it does have a non numbers matching 350 (is there a stamping on these that would tell me what year etc it is?) with a TH350 box. Power steering and power brakes - drums all round though. They stopped it well enough, but I'm assuming there are front disc conversions our there which I might look at. I love the stance though, I'm not a fan of massive wheels with super low profiles, they just look wrong to me.
I'll no doubt be back here for some advice, so apologies in advance!
Always like the 'early' Pontiac Firebird as an alternative to the Camaro. I know you've paid a deposit on the car - has it been sold to you as a Pontiac engined car? - nothing wrong with the Chevy small block but price paid should reflect that A. it isn't matching numbers or B. Chevy engine. Having said all that if it is a Chevy engine I'd be kinda inclined to source a period Poncho 400 engine for it - the're as great torquey engine and work really well in a lightweight body of the Firebird.
It's not perfect by any stretch, there are some slight fish eyes in the lacquer on the roof, the dash and centre console could do with tidying a bit, I don't like the steering wheel, but nothing major. I took my mate who's a panel beater, he was crawling all over and under it, and he says the metal work has been done well (new rear quarters and sills). It's also had floors at some point as well, but zero rust that I could find. It's not ripply at all - black paint does show everything - and the panel gaps are really good. I've got loads of photos of it in bare metal, so it shouldn't be hiding any nasty surprises - fingers crossed.
It smells like an old car inside (not in a bad way), it's noisy, it rattles over bumps and the ride's a bit crashy, but I was grinning like a child on the test drive, which is what it's all about I think! It's not super quick, but it pulls pretty well.
From checking the VIN it's an original V8 car, but it does have a non numbers matching 350 (is there a stamping on these that would tell me what year etc it is?) with a TH350 box. Power steering and power brakes - drums all round though. They stopped it well enough, but I'm assuming there are front disc conversions our there which I might look at. I love the stance though, I'm not a fan of massive wheels with super low profiles, they just look wrong to me.
I'll no doubt be back here for some advice, so apologies in advance!

BTW Leigh
You 'can' drive your pension around. That is exactly what I did at 50 - had a small pension that I cashed-in and put towards the Vette. Five years later and the original pension had reduced significantly in value - whereas the Vette had increased by a similar amount to what the pension would have......then I went and 'spoilt' it all by spending loads on money on new engine, billet wheels etc, etc..........
Edited by roscobbc on Monday 12th April 17:58
LeighW said:
Don't get me wrong, this is a lot of money to me and has used some savings that I really should have put in my pension, but you can't drive a pension. I used man maths that said it shouldn't depreciate as long as I take care of it, plus zero road tax is a bonus. I figured if I don't do it now, they'll just be out of my reach. I can remember looking at a 68 Charger at the Mopar Nats at Santa Pod maybe nine or ten years or so ago that was for sale for £17k, and thinking 'that's expensive'. Yeah...

I know what you mean.......next month will be 30 years since I was seriously considered buying this '68 Shelby GT500KR.......


And, yes that is $23.5k (owner would have taken $22k when I talked to him on the day) which was £13k at the £-$ exhange rate back in summer of '91. And it had a proper 427 in it not a 428.
I've since found out a few years ago, this was the only special order orange with parchment interior GT500KR ever built and is now worth about $250k since it restoration.
Hey ho......
aeropilot said:
LeighW said:
Don't get me wrong, this is a lot of money to me and has used some savings that I really should have put in my pension, but you can't drive a pension. I used man maths that said it shouldn't depreciate as long as I take care of it, plus zero road tax is a bonus. I figured if I don't do it now, they'll just be out of my reach. I can remember looking at a 68 Charger at the Mopar Nats at Santa Pod maybe nine or ten years or so ago that was for sale for £17k, and thinking 'that's expensive'. Yeah...

I know what you mean.......next month will be 30 years since I was seriously considered buying this '68 Shelby GT500KR.......


And, yes that is $23.5k (owner would have taken $22k when I talked to him on the day) which was £13k at the £-$ exhange rate back in summer of '91. And it had a proper 427 in it not a 428.
I've since found out a few years ago, this was the only special order orange with parchment interior GT500KR ever built and is now worth about $250k since it restoration.
Hey ho......
Edited by rat rod on Monday 12th April 20:12
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