Bronze Watch Suggestions
Discussion
richthebike said:
Voldemort said:
The bronze case is 'on trend' as they say. So, be aware that in a couple of years it won't be. Not only will you not want to wear it then but it will be (relatively speaking) worth nothing. See, for example, white ceramic watches.
I'd also actively advise against buying any of the watches on this thread if you're hoping to flip them (that includes steel watches from these brands). However, there are lots of reasons why bronze watches make sense, other than the current fashion. I also know quite a few people who still wear ceramic - I'll have a grey J12 at some point.
lostkiwi said:
richthebike said:
Voldemort said:
The bronze case is 'on trend' as they say. So, be aware that in a couple of years it won't be. Not only will you not want to wear it then but it will be (relatively speaking) worth nothing. See, for example, white ceramic watches.
I'd also actively advise against buying any of the watches on this thread if you're hoping to flip them (that includes steel watches from these brands). However, there are lots of reasons why bronze watches make sense, other than the current fashion. I also know quite a few people who still wear ceramic - I'll have a grey J12 at some point.
I do not get this trend sheet!
All things are trends are they not?
A bronze watch is just a move on from what was available before is it not? Another medium.
Why would I want to 'flip' something I want?
I wouldn't dream of flipping my wife (unless she asks!).
Maybe Rolex, PP, AP et al will not make a bronze watch, maybe they will.
Bronze is a great medium (ask all of the greatest sculptors).
Why not a watch?
I sense a mild snobbery regarding trends or at least this particular one?
I buy a watch to keep not to 'flip'.
Who spends a couple of grand expecting to get it back in 5 years by flipping. It is a fecking watch!
All things are trends are they not?
A bronze watch is just a move on from what was available before is it not? Another medium.
Why would I want to 'flip' something I want?
I wouldn't dream of flipping my wife (unless she asks!).
Maybe Rolex, PP, AP et al will not make a bronze watch, maybe they will.
Bronze is a great medium (ask all of the greatest sculptors).
Why not a watch?
I sense a mild snobbery regarding trends or at least this particular one?
I buy a watch to keep not to 'flip'.
Who spends a couple of grand expecting to get it back in 5 years by flipping. It is a fecking watch!
vixen1700 said:
Indeed. Resale isn't anything that enters my mind, but I've never spent more than £2k on a watch. Maybe if I'd sunk £50k into something I might be more concerned about depreciation.
I bought, and quickly sold, a Tudor BB bronze, it was too big but I got the common ‘it’ll be fine’ mindset. Didn’t assume I’d sell it so it wasn’t a thought at the time. I lost quite a lot of money when I sold it, but lessons were learned and it was worth much less sat in a drawer than it was on someone else’s wrist...
I’ve just bought a CW bronze in the ‘pre-public’ sale. Much more attractive price point, much less risk if I end up not wearing it as much as my other watches, easy buy for me
Trophy Husband said:
I do not get this trend sheet!
All things are trends are they not?
A bronze watch is just a move on from what was available before is it not? Another medium.
Why would I want to 'flip' something I want?
I wouldn't dream of flipping my wife (unless she asks!).
Maybe Rolex, PP, AP et al will not make a bronze watch, maybe they will.
Bronze is a great medium (ask all of the greatest sculptors).
Why not a watch?
I sense a mild snobbery regarding trends or at least this particular one?
I buy a watch to keep not to 'flip'.
Who spends a couple of grand expecting to get it back in 5 years by flipping. It is a fecking watch!
Quite. All things are trends are they not?
A bronze watch is just a move on from what was available before is it not? Another medium.
Why would I want to 'flip' something I want?
I wouldn't dream of flipping my wife (unless she asks!).
Maybe Rolex, PP, AP et al will not make a bronze watch, maybe they will.
Bronze is a great medium (ask all of the greatest sculptors).
Why not a watch?
I sense a mild snobbery regarding trends or at least this particular one?
I buy a watch to keep not to 'flip'.
Who spends a couple of grand expecting to get it back in 5 years by flipping. It is a fecking watch!
ZesPak said:
Trophy Husband said:
Who spends a couple of grand expecting to get it back in 5 years by flipping. It is a fecking watch!
The answer to that is usually quite simple: People who can't really afford the watch.Some people get bored of wearing the same watch so may want to flip it to buy another one. It may mean they cant' afford or can't justify 10 watches, but that's a different argument.
Eg. I have an Omega PO, I actually fancy a bog standard Seamaster, but it makes no sense to have both and as I have a number of other watches too, I would sell one to buy the Sea Master.
Equally you could sneer in the same way as people who need to sell their house to buy another - if they have to sell the first the simply can't afford a house.
blueg33 said:
Equally you could sneer in the same way as people who need to sell their house to buy another - if they have to sell the first the simply can't afford a house.
I would agree that most people can't afford a house. You need one though.When you buy a watch specifically because it's a watch you can easily flip later, it really means you can't afford the depreciation on a watch.
If you're worried about the depreciation of your unnecessary luxury item and you want to justify it for yourself, be my guest but leave me out of it.
ZesPak said:
blueg33 said:
Equally you could sneer in the same way as people who need to sell their house to buy another - if they have to sell the first the simply can't afford a house.
I would agree that most people can't afford a house. You need one though.I When you buy a watch specifically because it's a watch you can easily flip later, it really means you can't afford the depreciation on a watch.
If you're worried about the depreciation of your unnecessary luxury item and you want to justify it for yourself, be my guest but leave me out of it.
Surely, if you are flipping a watch, you have accepted the depreciation? It doesn't mean you can't afford the depreciation either, it means you cash position may not be enable you to buy a new one. Cars would be another analogy. Most people will sell one car to buy another. It doesn't mean they can't afford the depreciation and it doesn't mean they couldn't afford the car in the first place.
blueg33 said:
In terms of the house analogy, many people have much more house than they need, maybe they should buy 2 small ones just to prove they can afford it?
Surely, if you are flipping a watch, you have accepted the depreciation? It doesn't mean you can't afford the depreciation either, it means you cash position may not be enable you to buy a new one. Cars would be another analogy. Most people will sell one car to buy another. It doesn't mean they can't afford the depreciation and it doesn't mean they couldn't afford the car in the first place.
Yes, I think we are saying the same thing. But my point is that if depreciation is so important to you, should you even be looking at those watches that are exclusively a luxury item?Surely, if you are flipping a watch, you have accepted the depreciation? It doesn't mean you can't afford the depreciation either, it means you cash position may not be enable you to buy a new one. Cars would be another analogy. Most people will sell one car to buy another. It doesn't mean they can't afford the depreciation and it doesn't mean they couldn't afford the car in the first place.
You keep bringing up cars and houses, which are a completely different proposition.I can never equate buying a watch to buying a car, that I need to get anywhere and make a living.
ZesPak said:
blueg33 said:
In terms of the house analogy, many people have much more house than they need, maybe they should buy 2 small ones just to prove they can afford it?
Surely, if you are flipping a watch, you have accepted the depreciation? It doesn't mean you can't afford the depreciation either, it means you cash position may not be enable you to buy a new one. Cars would be another analogy. Most people will sell one car to buy another. It doesn't mean they can't afford the depreciation and it doesn't mean they couldn't afford the car in the first place.
Yes, I think we are saying the same thing. But my point is that if depreciation is so important to you, should you even be looking at those watches that are exclusively a luxury item?Surely, if you are flipping a watch, you have accepted the depreciation? It doesn't mean you can't afford the depreciation either, it means you cash position may not be enable you to buy a new one. Cars would be another analogy. Most people will sell one car to buy another. It doesn't mean they can't afford the depreciation and it doesn't mean they couldn't afford the car in the first place.
You keep bringing up cars and houses, which are a completely different proposition.I can never equate buying a watch to buying a car, that I need to get anywhere and make a living.
You could think of it as opportunity costs.
blueg33 said:
You misunderstand. I'm going to use cars again. My Evora is a luxury item that I don't need, but if I want one in a different colour I would sell the first because there is no point in having both if I am only going to use one.
You could think of it as opportunity costs.
Like I said, watches will never be on the level of a car (even if said car is a toy) to me so can't really relate. Having a nice resale can be pleasant come flipping it but won't be in my decision process.You could think of it as opportunity costs.
As for bronze watches, I thought I posted this but probably previewed it by accident, Magrette have a couple at the moment:
A GMT which is tempting me.
The Vantage, which looks a lot more "victorian":
This one I got about half a year ago, lovely thing albeit pretty heavy (but that's to be expected with bronze?) Funnily enough I only notice the weight when picking it up, not when wearing.
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