The Under £200ish Watch and occasional Opera Thread! Vol2

The Under £200ish Watch and occasional Opera Thread! Vol2

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Mark-ri571

492 posts

105 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Just bought this from Amazon for £148 inc delivery. The aim was to have something I could wear out and about on holiday instead of my Sub date. Might also have a look at the green SN0121T



redrabbit

1,317 posts

163 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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I had resolved to try on, and if happy buy, a nice 70s Mido reissue that I'd had my eye on this weekend, but got distracted before I even left the house and offered on this instead... now it's mine biggrin

It looks really lovely; early 90s with all the right bits. Hopefully it will be as fantastic as it looks when it arrives. As my mate says, it's so beautifully specc'd with precision kit, it's like a watch movement you can ride biggrin




Edited by redrabbit on Sunday 3rd September 17:16

Barchettaman

6,252 posts

130 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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That’s a really nice Peugeot.

As well as cheap watches I also restore vintage racing bikes, not so much these days, I mostly just do bike maintenance for the neighbourhood!

A Peugeot was one of my first projects.



I also did this one from the parts bin. A mate has it, uses it as a city bike in Frankfurt:



This singlespeed Peugeot ride quite nicely. It has a really long wheelbase and a bit more fork trail than an out-and-out racer, and it was fun to build:



Apologies for the thread drift, but it’s all mechanical stuff and will hopefully get a pass.

Drooles

1,357 posts

54 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Barchettaman said:
That’s a really nice Peugeot.

As well as cheap watches I also restore vintage racing bikes, not so much these days, I mostly just do bike maintenance for the neighbourhood!

A Peugeot was one of my first projects.



I also did this one from the parts bin. A mate has it, uses it as a city bike in Frankfurt:



This singlespeed Peugeot ride quite nicely. It has a really long wheelbase and a bit more fork trail than an out-and-out racer, and it was fun to build:



Apologies for the thread drift, but it’s all mechanical stuff and will hopefully get a pass.
Mr. Barchettaman, sir, is there anything you know nothing about? beer

redrabbit

1,317 posts

163 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Barchettaman said:
That’s a really nice Peugeot.

As well as cheap watches I also restore vintage racing bikes, not so much these days, I mostly just do bike maintenance for the neighbourhood!

A Peugeot was one of my first projects.



I also did this one from the parts bin. A mate has it, uses it as a city bike in Frankfurt:



This singlespeed Peugeot ride quite nicely. It has a really long wheelbase and a bit more fork trail than an out-and-out racer, and it was fun to build:



Apologies for the thread drift, but it’s all mechanical stuff and will hopefully get a pass.
How did I know this would draw out another of the boatman's enthusiasms?

Answer: I guessed 100% biggrin

Bobberoo

Original Poster:

38,072 posts

96 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Drooles said:
Barchettaman said:
That’s a really nice Peugeot.

As well as cheap watches I also restore vintage racing bikes, not so much these days, I mostly just do bike maintenance for the neighbourhood!

A Peugeot was one of my first projects.



I also did this one from the parts bin. A mate has it, uses it as a city bike in Frankfurt:



This singlespeed Peugeot ride quite nicely. It has a really long wheelbase and a bit more fork trail than an out-and-out racer, and it was fun to build:



Apologies for the thread drift, but it’s all mechanical stuff and will hopefully get a pass.
Mr. Barchettaman, sir, is there anything you know nothing about? beer
I'm guessing from other posts, our Barchettaman has a limited knowledge of 4/5/7 axis machining, just a guess mind!!!

Barchettaman

6,252 posts

130 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Bobberoo said:
I'm guessing from other posts, our Barchettaman has a limited knowledge of 4/5/7 axis machining, just a guess mind!!!
Correct.

My areas of expertise:

Bluffing my way round an operatic stage
Breakdancing in fat suits
Spannering on bicycles (but nothing too complex)
Ordering beer in multiple languages
Ruining cheap watches by taking the back off and ‘having a play’
Fixing broken suitcases
Packing the bare minimum for work trips
Annoying my wife

That’s about it.


Edited by Barchettaman on Sunday 3rd September 21:57

Bobberoo

Original Poster:

38,072 posts

96 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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Barchettaman said:
Bobberoo said:
I'm guessing from other posts, our Barchettaman has a limited knowledge of 4/5/7 axis machining, just a guess mind!!!
Correct.

My areas of expertise:

Bluffing my way round an operatic stage
Breakdancing in fat suits
Spannering on bicycles (but nothing too complex)
Ordering beer in multiple languages
Ruining cheap watches by taking the back off and ‘having a play’
Fixing broken suitcases
Packing the bare minimum for work trips
Annoying my wife

That’s about it.


Edited by Barchettaman on Sunday 3rd September 21:57
Oh come now, globe trotting mega star opera singer and all round good egg surely!!!

We all have our areas of expertise, mine would be,
Making things from metal through machining
Fixture design
5s standardisation
Lean manufacturing
Root cause corrective action implementation
In car audio
Whisky
And of course
Cheap watches
Annoying the wife is a prerequisite for a couple of the above

Drooles

1,357 posts

54 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Bobberoo said:
Barchettaman said:
Bobberoo said:
I'm guessing from other posts, our Barchettaman has a limited knowledge of 4/5/7 axis machining, just a guess mind!!!
Correct.

My areas of expertise:

Bluffing my way round an operatic stage
Breakdancing in fat suits
Spannering on bicycles (but nothing too complex)
Ordering beer in multiple languages
Ruining cheap watches by taking the back off and ‘having a play’
Fixing broken suitcases
Packing the bare minimum for work trips
Annoying my wife

That’s about it.


Edited by Barchettaman on Sunday 3rd September 21:57
Oh come now, globe trotting mega star opera singer and all round good egg surely!!!

We all have our areas of expertise, mine would be,
Making things from metal through machining
Fixture design
5s standardisation
Lean manufacturing
Root cause corrective action implementation
In car audio
Whisky
And of course
Cheap watches
Annoying the wife is a prerequisite for a couple of the above
Wow! I don’t even know what half of that means… an impressive set of skills.

I know a bit about cheap watches… and I annoy my wife. That’s it! beer

CharlesdeGaulle

25,924 posts

178 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Drooles said:
Bobberoo said:
Barchettaman said:
Bobberoo said:
I'm guessing from other posts, our Barchettaman has a limited knowledge of 4/5/7 axis machining, just a guess mind!!!
Correct.

My areas of expertise:

Bluffing my way round an operatic stage
Breakdancing in fat suits
Spannering on bicycles (but nothing too complex)
Ordering beer in multiple languages
Ruining cheap watches by taking the back off and ‘having a play’
Fixing broken suitcases
Packing the bare minimum for work trips
Annoying my wife

That’s about it.


Edited by Barchettaman on Sunday 3rd September 21:57
Oh come now, globe trotting mega star opera singer and all round good egg surely!!!

We all have our areas of expertise, mine would be,
Making things from metal through machining
Fixture design
5s standardisation
Lean manufacturing
Root cause corrective action implementation
In car audio
Whisky
And of course
Cheap watches
Annoying the wife is a prerequisite for a couple of the above
Wow! I don’t even know what half of that means… an impressive set of skills.

I know a bit about cheap watches… and I annoy my wife. That’s it! beer
Stop showing-off you lot, I haven't even got a wife.

Bobberoo

Original Poster:

38,072 posts

96 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Drooles said:
Bobberoo said:
Barchettaman said:
Bobberoo said:
I'm guessing from other posts, our Barchettaman has a limited knowledge of 4/5/7 axis machining, just a guess mind!!!
Correct.

My areas of expertise:

Bluffing my way round an operatic stage
Breakdancing in fat suits
Spannering on bicycles (but nothing too complex)
Ordering beer in multiple languages
Ruining cheap watches by taking the back off and ‘having a play’
Fixing broken suitcases
Packing the bare minimum for work trips
Annoying my wife

That’s about it.


Edited by Barchettaman on Sunday 3rd September 21:57
Oh come now, globe trotting mega star opera singer and all round good egg surely!!!

We all have our areas of expertise, mine would be,
Making things from metal through machining
Fixture design
5s standardisation
Lean manufacturing
Root cause corrective action implementation
In car audio
Whisky
And of course
Cheap watches
Annoying the wife is a prerequisite for a couple of the above
Wow! I don’t even know what half of that means… an impressive set of skills.

I know a bit about cheap watches… and I annoy my wife. That’s it! beer
Stop showing-off you lot, I haven't even got a wife.
rofl

magpie215

4,358 posts

187 months

Tuesday 5th September 2023
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Stop showing-off you lot, I haven't even got a wife.
I prefer the title of Fun prevention officer.

iirc used on this very forum :-)

BrokenSkunk

4,541 posts

248 months

Tuesday 5th September 2023
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magpie215 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Stop showing-off you lot, I haven't even got a wife.
I prefer the title of Fun prevention officer.

iirc used on this very forum :-)
"My little handbrake."

In other off topic news, I put the broken bits back on the Skunk last night ready for it to be shipped off to the chassis doctors. Which means that:
a\ I got absolutely covered in grime
& b\ I finally took all those pictures that I promised to take and post here.

I'll post them soon. ish. I promise.

BrokenSkunk

4,541 posts

248 months

Tuesday 5th September 2023
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Broken Skunk part 1.
OK. Lets start with a warning.
This post contains images of a Broken Skunk (as promised).


This is a picture of the bit that did all the damage, and its £700 replacement!
You're looking at the swingarm spindle, well technically it's an axle. It doesn't rotate. You should see that the axle has a step. The rear swingarm hangs on the fat bit (25mm dia), the thin bit (17mm dia) provides an axle for a crown and pinion drive and the rear sprocket.

The rear sprocket is concentric with the swingarm bearings, so unlike a motorcycle the suspension does not wind up under acceleration.

If you look closely at the old broken axle, you'll see that it sheared right at the point of the step change in diameter. If it was going to shear, that'd be exactly where you'd expect it to go. Step changes are bad, so for the replacement I've designed that out...


In place of the nasty step in the original part, I now have a beautifully shiny radiused curve. Unfortunately the stepped shoulder of the original butts up to a bearing, so I had to get a washer fabricated to restore a square edge. Notice how inside of the washer is shaped to slip over the radiused curve on the axle. It seems daft to put a radiused curve on the axle, then fit a washer to get rid of it, but the washer is a sliding fit, so it should not remove the extra strength that the curve added.

[For Bobbers] The original was EN8 apparently, the new part is EN24T. [/for Bobbers]

So that's the bit that went snap, now I'll try and show you where it fits in the car and what damage it did.



Here's the rear swingarm. On the left of the picture is the rear axle and outboard brake disk. There's normally a srpocket here too, but I've taken it off as it was one of the many casualties of this axle failure. The swingarm is upside down, and yes, that is some kind of crazy trapezoidal rising rate suspension set up.


Now I'm putting stuff together. The swingarm is still upside down. The new axle is running through the swingarm. You'll also see the inboard brake disk and the crown and pinion drive. Again the sprocket has been removed on account of it being scrap metal. I've turned the crown and pinion drive so you can see where the propshaft power goes in. And because if I hadn't all the oil would have drained out.

This whole affair attaches to the car in three places. Attaching to the axle on the right of this picture there's a sturdy triangulated swingarm mount. Then there's a clamp, less sturdy, that sits beween the swingarm and the brake disk / sprocket carrier. And finally four hefty M10 bolts secure the Crown and pinion drive to the chassis. The C&P mount is used to transfer a lot of the forces from the swingarm into the chassis. The middle of the three mounts doesn't really do very much.

I need to do some work, so I'll post a part 2 tomorrow(?) with pictures of the twisted chassis and the swingarm back in place.

Bobberoo

Original Poster:

38,072 posts

96 months

Tuesday 5th September 2023
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A lot of work there BrokenSkunk, good work with the radiused intersection, it will definitely spread the stress over a bigger area, and I'm impressed with the radiused washer too!!!
Very surprised at the use of EN8 originally, EN24T is a much better choice!!!

blue_haddock

3,071 posts

65 months

Thursday 7th September 2023
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I've just picked up another zelos in the clearance drop.



Just the watch head on its own for $160 delivered. Have ordered a few straps but the aim for something like my old Christopher ward but without the sticky rotor and crap customer services.


irc

7,013 posts

134 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Barchettaman said:
That’s a really nice Peugeot.

As well as cheap watches I also restore vintage racing bikes, not so much these days, I mostly just do bike maintenance for the neighbourhood!

A Peugeot was one of my first projects.


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Old Peugots? My 70s 10 speed is in the middle of this pic. Day 1 of a1977 11 day hostel tour of the Scottish Highlands. Sort of bike packing. All gear in a duffle bag on the rack. Cycling in flared jeans obviously.



This was the happy time just before we encountered a howling headwind that had us in bottom gear pedalling downhill for miles in Glen Cluanie.

Barchettaman

6,252 posts

130 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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^ that’s an awesome photo.

My eldest bike-packs across Europe every summer with his mates from the swim club. Frankfurt to Lake Garda and back, over the alps. That kind of thing.

On other non-horological matters, there’s some serious work to be done to the newly broken Skunk. Best of luck with that, Mike!

redrabbit

1,317 posts

163 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Arrived today. Assembled in between zoom calls. I'm bloody delighted with it. 1.75 × thread budget for an immaculate 1990s gem; it almost feels bespoke.

(See what I did there?)




Bobberoo

Original Poster:

38,072 posts

96 months

Friday 8th September 2023
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Loving the bike pics and stories!!!
I sometimes think we should have a meet up somewhere, I reckon it would be great fun with so many different interests and such diverse people!!!