Have you bought one of those great looking Rolex/Omega fakes

Have you bought one of those great looking Rolex/Omega fakes

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Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st February
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gregs656 said:
Countdown said:
What's wrong with pretending it's something it's not?
I think most reception age children have a good handle on what is wrong with lying.
Unless you've specifically asked them if it's genuine and they have said it is, they haven't lied to you.

But let's say they DO lie.....in the grand scheme of things how much damage does somebody do by pretending their Rolex is genuine?

As lies go it's up there with "My dad used to play centre forward for Man United and my girlfriend is a model", it upsets jealous/envious people (and that's mainly their own nature). Nobody is hurt by it and nobody else cares.

Hard-Drive

4,090 posts

230 months

Thursday 1st February
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Countdown said:
Hard-Drive said:
But why spend £800 on a fake Rolex unless it's to pretend it's something it's not?
What's wrong with pretending it's something it's not?
What's right with it? Is the wearer trying to impress people? You can get some absolutely stunning watches in their own right for £800, why buy a fake?

InformationSuperHighway

6,047 posts

185 months

Thursday 1st February
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Goldman Sachs said:
Hard-Drive said:
But why spend £800 on a fake Rolex unless it's to pretend it's something it's not?
You will have to ask the people who own them.

While you are at it, you can also interview all the people who own replica AC Cobras, Ford GT40's, Lancia Stratos... and all the millionaires who have built exact recreations of their 250GTO's and other rare cars, so they can race them at Goodwood and avoid damaging their real car which is safely at home. Ask them why they own fake cars.

Edited by Goldman Sachs on Thursday 1st February 15:44
Interesting comparison actually. The difference being that they currently do not still make any of those cars. Where as they do (mass) produce the watches.

Maybe the equivalent is the MR2 body kits vs the hand crafted replicas of cars from the past?

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st February
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Hard-Drive said:
Countdown said:
Hard-Drive said:
But why spend £800 on a fake Rolex unless it's to pretend it's something it's not?
What's wrong with pretending it's something it's not?
What's right with it? Is the wearer trying to impress people? You can get some absolutely stunning watches in their own right for £800, why buy a fake?
Yes exactly! The wearer IS trying to impress people and he's doing it "on the cheao"? So what?

bristolbaron

4,840 posts

213 months

Thursday 1st February
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Countdown said:
Hard-Drive said:
Countdown said:
Hard-Drive said:
But why spend £800 on a fake Rolex unless it's to pretend it's something it's not?
What's wrong with pretending it's something it's not?
What's right with it? Is the wearer trying to impress people? You can get some absolutely stunning watches in their own right for £800, why buy a fake?
Yes exactly! The wearer IS trying to impress people and he's doing it "on the cheao"? So what?
So that makes them a loser.

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st February
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bristolbaron said:
Countdown said:
Hard-Drive said:
Countdown said:
Hard-Drive said:
But why spend £800 on a fake Rolex unless it's to pretend it's something it's not?
What's wrong with pretending it's something it's not?
What's right with it? Is the wearer trying to impress people? You can get some absolutely stunning watches in their own right for £800, why buy a fake?
Yes exactly! The wearer IS trying to impress people and he's doing it "on the cheao"? So what?
So that makes them a loser.
Yep, and your dad's bigger than his dad.

The losers are people who wear watches to try and impress others, and get upset by other people doing the same "on the cheap".

ruhall

506 posts

147 months

Thursday 1st February
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Ignoring smart watches, why do people wear a watch?

If it isn't simply for telling the time, what is it for?

(I find it quite relaxing when I realise that a few weeks might have passed and I've not worn a watch)

Mont Blanc

622 posts

44 months

Thursday 1st February
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ruhall said:
Ignoring smart watches, why do people wear a watch?

If it isn't simply for telling the time, what is it for?

(I find it quite relaxing when I realise that a few weeks might have passed and I've not worn a watch)
I have heard people describe watches as ‘jewellery for men’ and I agree. Nothing wrong with that.

For me personally, it is a mix of enjoying the feeling of wearing a nice watch, the same as you would enjoy wearing a really nice shirt, suit, or shoes. It’s the whole jewellery thing. Enjoying wearing your hard earned finery.

Plus, I genuinely find it handy for checking the time, rather than getting my phone out of my pocket. When I don’t wear a watch, I find myself looking at an empty wrist, tutting to myself, then having to locate my phone from whichever pocket it is secreted in.

fasimew

347 posts

6 months

Thursday 1st February
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Countdown said:
Yep, and your dad's bigger than his dad.

The losers are people who wear watches to try and impress others, and get upset by other people doing the same "on the cheap".
This is exactly why I'm not spending 5k on a real one. Because I can achieve the same thing for minimal outlay.
I'm not a Rolex person at all. I don't get the hype. I can get the same quality for a lot less. Why would I want to spend all that money to be seen wearing the same thing as every other aspirational mug? But if I could climb the social ladder for peanuts in comparison... then I'll take it.

Countdown

39,986 posts

197 months

Thursday 1st February
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fasimew said:
Countdown said:
Yep, and your dad's bigger than his dad.

The losers are people who wear watches to try and impress others, and get upset by other people doing the same "on the cheap".
This is exactly why I'm not spending 5k on a real one. Because I can achieve the same thing for minimal outlay.
I'm not a Rolex person at all. I don't get the hype. I can get the same quality for a lot less. Why would I want to spend all that money to be seen wearing the same thing as every other aspirational mug? But if I could climb the social ladder for peanuts in comparison... then I'll take it.
I don't think you're getting the same quality, you might be getting the same "image" (if people don't look too closely).

If people wearing genuine Rolexes are "aspirational mugs" what does that make somebody wearing a fake Rolex?

robsa

2,260 posts

185 months

Thursday 1st February
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The other problem with wearing a fake (apart from the obvious) is that at some point you will need to get it serviced, and you may have trouble finding a jeweller willing to do so. Do you really want to spend a load of cash on a watch that only lasts a couple of years max?
Yeah maybe 'Rolex John' in Milton Keynes will do it for you, but his bedroom has about 80 fakes in it already and he doesn't seem to be answering his emails recently...

Mercdriver

2,034 posts

34 months

Thursday 1st February
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Problem with a Rolex is getting it serviced or repaired, Rolex will only supply spares to approved dealers.

I had A GMT master thirty years old, put it into local dealers for a service, they sent it to Rolex for evaluation and they wanted to change the case, crankshaft and bracelet, it would not have been the watch I worked hard for to purchase it.

Sold and used money to have a cruise holiday in the med.

Bought a digital watch, which I prefer, in local flea market in Spain for ten euros, keeps great time and and I don’t have to reset it every time I wear it.

fasimew

347 posts

6 months

Thursday 1st February
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Countdown said:
I don't think you're getting the same quality, you might be getting the same "image" (if people don't look too closely).

If people wearing genuine Rolexes are "aspirational mugs" what does that make somebody wearing a fake Rolex?
Someone previously stated that fake rolex's can be had with the same quality.
You can also get other brands of the same quality as Rolex for far less.

It depends on your reasons for wearing that Rolex.
I'd say those that wear fake rolex's to show off are also aspirational mugs, just less so than someone wearing a real one for the same reason.

Tyrell Corp

256 posts

21 months

Thursday 1st February
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Hard-Drive said:
But why spend £800 on a fake Rolex unless it's to pretend it's something it's not?
Alternatively £800 buys some really nice vintage stuff, super rare, impractical to fake and some with very decent movements inside.


Mont Blanc

622 posts

44 months

Thursday 1st February
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fasimew said:
This is exactly why I'm not spending 5k on a real one. Because I can achieve the same thing for minimal outlay.
I'm not a Rolex person at all. I don't get the hype. I can get the same quality for a lot less. Why would I want to spend all that money to be seen wearing the same thing as every other aspirational mug? But if I could climb the social ladder for peanuts in comparison... then I'll take it.
I wasn’t sure earlier, but now I know you are absolutely just trolling.

“Climb the social ladder” rofl

Goldman Sachs

28 posts

4 months

Thursday 1st February
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robsa said:
The other problem with wearing a fake (apart from the obvious) is that at some point you will need to get it serviced, and you may have trouble finding a jeweller willing to do so. Do you really want to spend a load of cash on a watch that only lasts a couple of years max?
Yeah maybe 'Rolex John' in Milton Keynes will do it for you, but his bedroom has about 80 fakes in it already and he doesn't seem to be answering his emails recently...
I can categorically tell you that you won't have any trouble finding a watchmaker to carry out servicing.

The replica watch forums have directories of trusted watchmakers (in UK) who will happily work on replica watches and have built up a good reputation. There is no end of work for them from the replica watch community and they want to keep the business coming in.

It isn't just servicing they do, they also carry out 'franken' work to watches. Fit genuine parts to them, machine the inside of cases to make other movements fit, make improvements, build their own components if required. These are seriously skilled people.

You have to remember that the replicas now are so good that the movement is a full clone of a genuine movement. They are no more difficult to work on than a real watch.

Also it should be noted that these watches are worth decent money used. Will hold their value. If someone has an 'in hand' watch in the UK, which has been owned and proven to be a good runner, they will have zero problem selling it for good money to someone who wants a watch already in the UK. Again the forums are based on a trusted user/seller/poster system.

fasimew

347 posts

6 months

Thursday 1st February
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Mont Blanc said:
fasimew said:
This is exactly why I'm not spending 5k on a real one. Because I can achieve the same thing for minimal outlay.
I'm not a Rolex person at all. I don't get the hype. I can get the same quality for a lot less. Why would I want to spend all that money to be seen wearing the same thing as every other aspirational mug? But if I could climb the social ladder for peanuts in comparison... then I'll take it.
I wasn’t sure earlier, but now I know you are absolutely just trolling.

“Climb the social ladder” rofl
I'm deadly serious. Why else would anyone wear a Rolex when there are other brands available? The number one reason is to look flash. Put it in whatever words you want.

Mont Blanc

622 posts

44 months

Thursday 1st February
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fasimew said:
I'm deadly serious. Why else would anyone wear a Rolex when there are other brands available? The number one reason is to look flash. Put it in whatever words you want.
Because some people just like to own really nice things?

There are people on PH who have posted about owning numerous Rolex watches yet rarely take them out of the house, as the pleasure, for them is in owning them and enjoying looking at them.

Other people will buy them as they feel they are simply an excellent quality watch, which they are. Some posters on here have bought a Rolex and had it as their one and only watch for 20, 30, 40 years.

Some will just absolutely love the style and design of them, but not give a stuff if anyone else likes it.

Of course, some people will want to wear them as a sign of success or money, or to show off, nothing wrong with that either.

So lots of reasons to own a Rolex, or other high quality watch costing £5k, £10k, 15k and up.


Edited by Mont Blanc on Thursday 1st February 19:45

gregs656

10,913 posts

182 months

Thursday 1st February
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Countdown said:
gregs656 said:
Countdown said:
What's wrong with pretending it's something it's not?
I think most reception age children have a good handle on what is wrong with lying.
Unless you've specifically asked them if it's genuine and they have said it is, they haven't lied to you.

But let's say they DO lie.....in the grand scheme of things how much damage does somebody do by pretending their Rolex is genuine?

As lies go it's up there with "My dad used to play centre forward for Man United and my girlfriend is a model", it upsets jealous/envious people (and that's mainly their own nature). Nobody is hurt by it and nobody else cares.
The whole product is a lie.

It could do a significant amount of damage if that person was selling it at the time.

wong

1,292 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st February
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If these superclones are virtually identical with interchangeable parts with the real thing, how much must Rolex spend on advertising and profit?