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saaby93 said:
Erm are any of these close to XH558 - a delta wing perhaps?
The Russians did not seem to favour pure delta designs (they have some disadvantages too). The MiG 21 has/had a delta wing but it was still fitted with a tailplane.The Vulcan's delta wing was extremely thick which limited its top speed. The Americans and the French took the delta winged bomber to a much higher level -
The Mirage was a beautiful piece of work, but had a limited appeal, was never pushed to anyone else, but was almost in look at least just a jumbo Mirage III
I suppose in terms of Delta the Valkyrie could be drawn upon as a comparison but it was a failed project really, and the Hustler never really convinced the USA to drop the B52 and the B1 was already there, then dropped then came back again lol!
I suppose in terms of Delta the Valkyrie could be drawn upon as a comparison but it was a failed project really, and the Hustler never really convinced the USA to drop the B52 and the B1 was already there, then dropped then came back again lol!
Seight_Returns said:
Could you elaborate ?
Never understood why the B-58 had such a short service life.
Extremely expensive and difficult to operate, very short range, limited capability (nukes only) not good at low altitude and therefore very vulnerable to SAMs. (summary of wikipedia entry )Never understood why the B-58 had such a short service life.
By the time these later deltas were coming along, it was obvious that the era of flying higher and faster for bombers was already over. Technically, there was nothing wrong with the XB-70 but even before it first flew it had been relegated to being just a test programme.
The emphasis had switched to low level smaller, tactical bombers and ballistic missiles.
The B-58 turned out to be a very demanding aircraft from a maintenance point of view and had a relatively short service life.
The emphasis had switched to low level smaller, tactical bombers and ballistic missiles.
The B-58 turned out to be a very demanding aircraft from a maintenance point of view and had a relatively short service life.
Latest update on hangar funding (or lack of) https://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/1016/82/Trust-...
Its really too depressing to have lost all the momentum from the glories of the last flight let alone the first
Its really too depressing to have lost all the momentum from the glories of the last flight let alone the first
johnnyreggae said:
Latest update on hangar funding (or lack of) https://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/1016/82/Trust-...
Its really too depressing to have lost all the momentum from the glories of the last flight let alone the first
I'll paraphrase: 'Its someone elses fault, its all a secret, we can't tell you who, or whats happening'.Its really too depressing to have lost all the momentum from the glories of the last flight let alone the first
The plan seems to have been: lets make it fly, then we'll be rolling in the money. Half of that came through (and don't get me wrong I'm glad it did) but theres been a lot of optimism all the way through. Can you imagine the number of begging emails had RR/BAE agreed to relife the engines/spars?
It's a travesty really, isn't it?
Why on earth they didn't get it to someone who could run it up once in a while and house it is beyond me. I suspect, like a lot of clubs, things descended into self-serving politics and unrealistic grand plans without basis.
Still, looking on the bright side, seeing her fly over Blackpool and bringing the whole place to a halt during that final UK tour was very special.
Why on earth they didn't get it to someone who could run it up once in a while and house it is beyond me. I suspect, like a lot of clubs, things descended into self-serving politics and unrealistic grand plans without basis.
Still, looking on the bright side, seeing her fly over Blackpool and bringing the whole place to a halt during that final UK tour was very special.
ThunderSpook said:
My guess would be simply they didn’t want anyone else to have it, and if they couldn’t have it then nobody could.
It's probably not as complex as thatAnyway isnt there another thread for people wanting to whinge about the hangar arrangements?
can we keep this about the plane itself
Does anyone know if the Heritage Lottery Fund retrospectively audits what happened to their donations? I am not just referring to VTS, but all hand-outs. I bet quite a few individuals have done very well thank you over the past decades from this. Either that or the money has just been effectively flushed down the toilet of a failed project.
saaby93 said:
Can someone start a thread for conspiracy theorists elsewhere >>>>>>>>>>
Thanks
For the rest of us it was great the Vulcan to the Sky team were able to keep XH558 flying for so long, so we could all see it around the country
Beautiful plane
Yes it was...now look at it though. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to discuss the clusterfk it is now though.Thanks
For the rest of us it was great the Vulcan to the Sky team were able to keep XH558 flying for so long, so we could all see it around the country
Beautiful plane
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