What do you think is the best looking jet ever made?

What do you think is the best looking jet ever made?

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dr_gn

14,689 posts

150 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
dr_gn said:
There seems to be some confusion over the dfference between a 'jet engine' and a 'turboprop'. They are completely different derivatives of the Gas Turbine.

Turboprops, Turbofans, Turbojets ('jets') and Turboshafts are all specific types of Gas Turbine, they are not all types of 'jet'.

A Turbojet (or 'jet') primarily derives it's thrust through the reaction of the high speed efflux of gases out of the back. A turboprop does not (it uses propeller(s), and therefore shouldn't be included in this thread!

On topic, one of my favourites is the Boeing 707, particularly in BOAC colours:

You just like disagreeing with me smile

On the other hand, I think your choice of Boeing 707 is quite excellent - particularly the Boeing 737-436 Rolls Royce Conway version which always looked elegant.

What about those every high bypass engines which derive more thrust from the air which bypasses the combustion core and essentially are pushed (or pulled) along by their fans?

In many ways, they are glorified multi-blad direct drive turboprops.

Another lovely and elegant "jet" (OK - turboprop) is the Bristol Britannia



Edited by Eric Mc on Sunday 13th December 19:49
I deliberately didn't quote you Eric!

Are you referring to Turbofans? or Propjets (propfan, unducted fan) Same thing though, the primary source of thrust *isn't* the jet efflux, but a 'fan', whether it be ducted or open.

Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 13th December 20:02

dr_gn

14,689 posts

150 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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dudleybloke said:
it could have been an airfix kit.
was definatly late '88 because thats when i joined the atc.
I'm *sure* either Airfix or Revell listed an "EFA Demonstrator" at some point. It was primarily white with a red or blue stripe from memory, and was the prototype thing that looked very similar to the Typhoon.

Can't find any reference to it online. It might have been about 1986/87 or something like that?

EDIT, found a pic of the real thing, but not the model. Sure it was Airfix...



EAP Demonstrator?

Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 13th December 19:58

Eric Mc

115,299 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Apparently Airfix intended to do one in the mid 80s and it appeared in their catalogue for a while. However, the model itself never materialised.
Airfix were going through one of their "verge of bankruptcy" periods in 1985/86 so many plans from that period came to nothing.

Eric Mc

115,299 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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dr_gn said:
dudleybloke said:
it could have been an airfix kit.
was definatly late '88 because thats when i joined the atc.
I'm *sure* either Airfix or Revell listed an "EFA Demonstrator" at some point. It was primarily white with a red or blue stripe from memory, and was the prototype thing that looked very similar to the Typhoon.

Can't find any reference to it online. It might have been about 1986/87 or something like that?

EDIT, found a pic of the real thing, but not the model. Sure it was Airfix...



EAP Demonstrator?

Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 13th December 19:58
The Pegasus model is of the EAP.

I think Freightdog intend to do a resin EAP in 2010.

dr_gn

14,689 posts

150 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Apparently Airfix intended to do one in the mid 80s and it appeared in their catalogue for a while. However, the model itself never materialised.
Airfix were going through one of their "verge of bankruptcy" periods in 1985/86 so many plans from that period came to nothing.
That explains it then: I had an Airfix catalogue, but never saw the model ('cos it was never sold).

perdu

4,872 posts

165 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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DrTre said:
Eric Mc said:
Just shows how long winded modern aircraft procurement is. Here you are talking about an "old" computer game featuring the F-22 - which is still the latest and most sophisticated fighter in the US inventory.
Yeah but Microsofts planned "Unmanned and Unarmed Aerial Reconnaissance Vehicle" wasn't considered much of a thriller so it was canned....although it sounds like perdu would have been the ideal purchasing demographic.
hey

no fair

I enjoy these games as a superficial thing, you know

when learning the "business" is important I RTFM first

just never did with F22

I like a shoot and scoot game

kinda like Harrier on my ancient Amstrad

wink

williamp

17,716 posts

239 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
dr_gn said:
dudleybloke said:
it could have been an airfix kit.
was definatly late '88 because thats when i joined the atc.
I'm *sure* either Airfix or Revell listed an "EFA Demonstrator" at some point. It was primarily white with a red or blue stripe from memory, and was the prototype thing that looked very similar to the Typhoon.

Can't find any reference to it online. It might have been about 1986/87 or something like that?

EDIT, found a pic of the real thing, but not the model. Sure it was Airfix...



EAP Demonstrator?

Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 13th December 19:58
The Pegasus model is of the EAP.

I think Freightdog intend to do a resin EAP in 2010.
I'm sure thats the aircraft in the reception of the engineering building at Loughborough University,

dudleybloke

16,510 posts

152 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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thats the kit!
not technicaly the eurofighter but looks pretty similar.

RichB

45,273 posts

250 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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Eric Mc

115,299 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th December 2009
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williamp said:
Eric Mc said:
dr_gn said:
dudleybloke said:
it could have been an airfix kit.
was definatly late '88 because thats when i joined the atc.
I'm *sure* either Airfix or Revell listed an "EFA Demonstrator" at some point. It was primarily white with a red or blue stripe from memory, and was the prototype thing that looked very similar to the Typhoon.

Can't find any reference to it online. It might have been about 1986/87 or something like that?

EDIT, found a pic of the real thing, but not the model. Sure it was Airfix...



EAP Demonstrator?

Edited by dr_gn on Sunday 13th December 19:58
The Pegasus model is of the EAP.

I think Freightdog intend to do a resin EAP in 2010.
I'm sure thats the aircraft in the reception of the engineering building at Loughborough University,
It is.

TCEvo

9,256 posts

168 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Afternoon chaps, not a thread I tend to come to, but went to Duxford this morning & thought appropriate to post a few jets that I've always thought were "lookers"

Lightning



TSR-2



MIG 21



TC

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

164 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Streetrod said:
This has to be one of my fav's, the Corvair B58 Hustler, even the name is cool. This was the USA's first supersonic bomber.

What I love about it is that is looks like the planes I used to draw when I was a kid. It looks very over engined in a very Gerry Anderson sort of way and I also love the fact that it had a gun in the tail. I would love to know how they used that?
Wonder if the bullets just fell straight down if it was going faster than the speed of the bullet hehe

Eric Mc

115,299 posts

231 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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rhinochopig said:
Streetrod said:
This has to be one of my fav's, the Corvair B58 Hustler, even the name is cool. This was the USA's first supersonic bomber.

What I love about it is that is looks like the planes I used to draw when I was a kid. It looks very over engined in a very Gerry Anderson sort of way and I also love the fact that it had a gun in the tail. I would love to know how they used that?
Wonder if the bullets just fell straight down if it was going faster than the speed of the bullet hehe
It was built by Convair (not Corvair). Convair was the name given to the merged companies of Consolidated and Vultee.


Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 14th December 16:49

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

228 months

Monday 14th December 2009
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Still (just) the queen of the skies!

Streetrod

6,464 posts

172 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
rhinochopig said:
Streetrod said:
This has to be one of my fav's, the Corvair B58 Hustler, even the name is cool. This was the USA's first supersonic bomber.

What I love about it is that is looks like the planes I used to draw when I was a kid. It looks very over engined in a very Gerry Anderson sort of way and I also love the fact that it had a gun in the tail. I would love to know how they used that?
Wonder if the bullets just fell straight down if it was going faster than the speed of the bullet hehe
It was built by Convair (not Corvair). Convair was the name given to the merged companies of Consolidated and Vultee.


Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 14th December 16:49
I bow to your superior knowledge

Eric Mc

115,299 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Streetrod said:
Eric Mc said:
rhinochopig said:
Streetrod said:
This has to be one of my fav's, the Corvair B58 Hustler, even the name is cool. This was the USA's first supersonic bomber.

What I love about it is that is looks like the planes I used to draw when I was a kid. It looks very over engined in a very Gerry Anderson sort of way and I also love the fact that it had a gun in the tail. I would love to know how they used that?
Wonder if the bullets just fell straight down if it was going faster than the speed of the bullet hehe
It was built by Convair (not Corvair). Convair was the name given to the merged companies of Consolidated and Vultee.


Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 14th December 16:49
I bow to your superior knowledge
No need to bow smile

Convir eventually became General Dynamics - who eventually sold their aircraft division to Lockheed.

Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 15th December 16:16

dr_gn

14,689 posts

150 months

Tuesday 15th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Streetrod said:
Eric Mc said:
rhinochopig said:
Streetrod said:
This has to be one of my fav's, the Corvair B58 Hustler, even the name is cool. This was the USA's first supersonic bomber.

What I love about it is that is looks like the planes I used to draw when I was a kid. It looks very over engined in a very Gerry Anderson sort of way and I also love the fact that it had a gun in the tail. I would love to know how they used that?
Wonder if the bullets just fell straight down if it was going faster than the speed of the bullet hehe
It was built by Convair (not Corvair). Convair was the name given to the merged companies of Consolidated and Vultee.


Edited by Eric Mc on Monday 14th December 16:49
I bow to your superior knowledge
No need to bow smile

Convir eventually became General Dynamics - who eventually sold their aircraft division to Lockheed.

Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 15th December 16:16
Convair, Corvair and now Convir biggrin I'll add Corvir to complete the set.

Eric Mc

115,299 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Come on - we're all allowed the odd typo.

I don't try to pull people up on what appear to be typos. I might make a comment if it appear that they are using the wrong name or word or, my particular bugbear, American spelling.

Car enthusiasts often quote Convair as Corvair - because of the infamous sports car of the early 1960s.

ndtman

696 posts

147 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Lockheed T-33




Nice video of low flying. Balls of steel required.

http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/videos/Jetti...

dr_gn

14,689 posts

150 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Come on - we're all allowed the odd typo.

I don't try to pull people up on what appear to be typos. I might make a comment if it appear that they are using the wrong name or word or, my particular bugbear, American spelling.

Car enthusiasts often quote Convair as Corvair - because of the infamous sports car of the early 1960s.
I know, and you know I know biggrin