super yachts 60million+

super yachts 60million+

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DeltonaS

3,089 posts

102 months

Friday 26th February
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emicen said:
RM said:
Cupramax said:
Not sure what’s going on here, but I’m guessing it’s expensive. Slight readjustment of St Maarten Yacht club, biggrin


Super yacht “Go” for info, I’m guessing there’s a major mechanical or electrical failure here rather than a severe lack of talent?

https://www.superyachttimes.com/yacht-news/inside-...
Are the hulls of super yachts constructed of steel or fibreglass/composite?
Depends where we're drawing the line for superyachts I think. MY Go in this instance (75m or thereabouts) is steel hulled, aluminium super structure.

Up to 50m, you still get GRP, think its pretty rare once you go longer than that.
Never seen a super yacht made from composite/carbon fibre. Only sailing yachts.

The hulls of large (motor)yachts are made of either aluminium or steel.

PushedDover

3,204 posts

17 months

Friday 26th February
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emicen said:
Sure I saw somewhere that the captain was blaming the manufacturer not carrying out their warranty obligations for the computer failure, that ultimately caused the loss of control.
Bad tradesman blames .....

Whether on a 20ft boat on the broads, or a £90m super yacht, if you are not always thinking what if, and how would I get out of this, I am afraid you ain’t much.

dvs_dave

6,267 posts

189 months

Friday 26th February
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NickCQ said:
I'm not sure, floating objects is a normal hazard of boating.
It shocks me that there was not some kind of firewall to mean that a malfunctioning bow thruster could not take down the main propulsion system.
Yes, that is odd, and on the face of it improbable. I’m guessing the captain had gotten too used to his nice handy joystick control and didn’t jump onto his manual main engine throttles levers quick enough.

Speculatore

1,998 posts

199 months

Saturday 27th February
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Two things I don't understand.

If you see the full video he rams the jetty twice. After the first attempt with obvious control issues you would probably anchor and keep aligned using the stern thruster if available.

Where was he going as the bridge was closed?

dudleybloke

16,315 posts

150 months

Saturday 27th February
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It stirred the silt up a fait bit too.

Sway

17,773 posts

158 months

Saturday 27th February
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Gents, let's not forget someone directly involved is on this thread, as you speculate and judge the professionalism of the captain and crew...

I'd put it that no one of the sort of character or capability being presented would be anywhere near Captain's stripes, let alone for a yacht like this.

PushedDover

3,204 posts

17 months

Saturday 27th February
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Sway said:
Gents, let's not forget someone directly involved is on this thread, as you speculate and judge the professionalism of the captain and crew...

I'd put it that no one of the sort of character or capability being presented would be anywhere near Captain's stripes, let alone for a yacht like this.
Rightio. Looking forward to knowing what went wrong that the skipper could not manage.

Petrus1983 said:
It seems very windy -

https://youtu.be/hq6hXKBTXmw
May sound windy, but the ensign is pretty limp on the stern. Not buying that as the cause.

Petrus1983

4,751 posts

126 months

Saturday 27th February
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On a distracting side note I’ve bought a 2.7m 3D Tender inflatable with the top of the range Torqeedo outboard. Will update all soon!

Voldemort

4,513 posts

242 months

Saturday 27th February
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Petrus1983 said:
On a distracting side note I’ve bought a 2.7m 3D Tender inflatable with the top of the range Torqeedo outboard. Will update all soon!
Did you get much change from £60m?

Petrus1983

4,751 posts

126 months

Saturday 27th February
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Voldemort said:
Petrus1983 said:
On a distracting side note I’ve bought a 2.7m 3D Tender inflatable with the top of the range Torqeedo outboard. Will update all soon!
Did you get much change from £60m?
80p.

M5-911

474 posts

9 months

Saturday 27th February
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Petrus1983 said:
On a distracting side note I’ve bought a 2.7m 3D Tender inflatable with the top of the range Torqeedo outboard. Will update all soon!
Is the owner let you share everything about his boat on Internet?

Petrus1983

4,751 posts

126 months

Saturday 27th February
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M5-911 said:
Petrus1983 said:
On a distracting side note I’ve bought a 2.7m 3D Tender inflatable with the top of the range Torqeedo outboard. Will update all soon!
Is the owner let you share everything about his boat on Internet?
Just because it’s a 3D Tender doesn’t mean it’s going to be a tender. Technically it is, but not in this category. What I will say though is that this thread is one of the best on PH, there’s been an accident and we should respect the due process rather than being keyboard experts.

dvs_dave

6,267 posts

189 months

Saturday 27th February
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Speculatore said:
Two things I don't understand.

If you see the full video he rams the jetty twice. After the first attempt with obvious control issues you would probably anchor and keep aligned using the stern thruster if available.

Where was he going as the bridge was closed?
Didn’t see that second vid until now. Ramming the jetty on two separate occasions is an interesting sequence of events. A systems failure just at the wrong time on both docking attempts with everything coming back online and seemingly “normal” in between both attempts. Would perhaps explain why they gave it another go rather than throwing the anchors and getting assistance.

Mike Random

466 posts

134 months

Sunday 28th February
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Speculatore said:
Two things I don't understand.

If you see the full video he rams the jetty twice. After the first attempt with obvious control issues you would probably anchor and keep aligned using the stern thruster if available.

Where was he going as the bridge was closed?
It is not uncommon for boats to turn around on their berths with out going through the bridge, l have done this a number of times myself.

I have been on a number of yachts with electronic throttles that have had issues but typically this has happened with a fraction more sea room to deal with it. Going through that bridge is never pleasant and even less so when trying to put a large high sided super yacht through it with any degree of wind or current. People also do not realise it is not a straight shot though the bridge.

I am sure in the fullness of time the actual cause will be released. Speculating on these things as with other recent accidents does nobody any favour. I have read countless derogatory posts about BP on LinkedIn that are dam right disrespectful to the competency of Chris and his team. In this case if it was the Captain l believe it was, he has decades of experience driving big boats and going through that bridge.

At least nobody was hurt.

Mike

thegreenhell

8,342 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th March
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Statement from the captain of Superyacht Go, and discussion thereof:


Petrus1983

4,751 posts

126 months

Friday 5th March
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This is the article he’s referring to in the video above -

https://www.thedailyherald.sx/islands/captain-of-g...

PushedDover

3,204 posts

17 months

Friday 5th March
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Fair play to the Captain if all as reported. and ballsy driving to regularly pass with 500mm each side of the vessel.

I still can't see how the DP3 DSV Topaz fked up so bad with the Diver on the floor of the North Sea, but equally surprised the gremlins can get in to and fk up without any manual override the Superyacht here.

SPF not good.

Speculatore

1,998 posts

199 months

Friday 5th March
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Mike Random said:
Speculatore said:
Two things I don't understand.

If you see the full video he rams the jetty twice. After the first attempt with obvious control issues you would probably anchor and keep aligned using the stern thruster if available.

Where was he going as the bridge was closed?
It is not uncommon for boats to turn around on their berths with out going through the bridge, l have done this a number of times myself.

I have been on a number of yachts with electronic throttles that have had issues but typically this has happened with a fraction more sea room to deal with it. Going through that bridge is never pleasant and even less so when trying to put a large high sided super yacht through it with any degree of wind or current. People also do not realise it is not a straight shot though the bridge.

I am sure in the fullness of time the actual cause will be released. Speculating on these things as with other recent accidents does nobody any favour. I have read countless derogatory posts about BP on LinkedIn that are dam right disrespectful to the competency of Chris and his team. In this case if it was the Captain l believe it was, he has decades of experience driving big boats and going through that bridge.

At least nobody was hurt.

Mike
Agree Mike. I have added my displeasure to quite a few threads on Linked-In where keyboard warriors have made stupid comments and assumptions.

blueg33

26,006 posts

188 months

Friday 5th March
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I have never handles boats of that size, but have many years experience handling smaller ones - sometimes circumstances gang up on you especially when there is a malfunction. The worst ones are always the ones with public scrutiny. I remember Poole town quay and a flukey but strong wind giving me major grief in front of an audience of 100's of tourists. They may have been laughing but my 20 year old self definitely wasn't.

The captains description of the incident is interesting, he had little time to make a decision and came up with one that was the best in the circumstances. Sounds like it could have been a thousand times worse

TeeRev

1,326 posts

115 months

Friday 5th March
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Oh yes, I remember Poole Quay very well. The Summer of 1969 with girlfriend of the time and another couple of friends, none of whom had ever been on a boat so I was skipper. We hired an 18' daysailer yacht with a Seagull outboard from Sandbanks. I was pretty happy around motorboats but it was the first time I'd ever actually sailed anything bigger than a pram dinghy on a lake.

With the confidence of youth I managed to sail us all the way up to Poole Quay where we were planning to stop for lunch but I was getting overconfident by then and did everything the wrong way round, I brought us up into wind and dropped the sails then went to start the outboard which had been no problem when we had left the mooring at Sandbanks.

Of course being a perverse Seagull there was absolutely no chance of it starting when I needed it, so, to my huge embarrassment we bounced with the tide right down the side of a parked navy minesweeper, this provided great entertainment for the massed crew looking down at us and their jeers rang in my ears for a long, long time.