Noise detection speed camera trial

Noise detection speed camera trial

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Monaro5.7

Original Poster:

7,287 posts

156 months

Saturday 30th April
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Better get them standard exhausts back on

https://www.sytner.co.uk/news/acoustic-cameras-com...

vxr2010

2,377 posts

136 months

Saturday 30th April
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been talking about it for ages , they are already in london knightsbridge Kensington and Chelsea areas

fred bloggs

854 posts

177 months

Sunday 1st May
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I think we’ll be ok. They will have to be well signed I think, like speed cameras .

Mr Spoon

1,542 posts

15 months

Sunday 1st May
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74db.... Surely lots of vehicles are over that ...

av185

15,837 posts

104 months

Sunday 1st May
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Doubtful whether these will force the irritating farty can brapp remapped 1.2 litre Corsa morons off the road.

Most unfortunate.

av185

15,837 posts

104 months

Sunday 1st May
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Mr Spoon said:
74db.... Surely lots of vehicles are over that ...
Quite.

I look forward to invoicing my OPC for the fines accrued from my standard fit Porsche GT exhausts. hehe

NMNeil

3,919 posts

27 months

Sunday 1st May
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fred bloggs said:
I think we’ll be ok. They will have to be well signed I think, like speed cameras .
Why?
The whole idea is to catch those tts who are ruining the peace and quiet for everyone.
Back off the throttle until you pass the noise detector, then return to being a tt immediately afterwards?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10582147/...
And fines are not the answer, they need to copy California, and if caught with an illegal exhaust they get issued a fix it ticket. The idea being that it's a greater deterrent if you have to put your exhaust system back to stock and have it checked by the police, not a bent emissions inspector. If it's been fixed then the ticket is torn up. No bleating that it's just another way to make money as there are no fines if it's fixed.

selondonman

110 posts

184 months

Monday 2nd May
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if a car passes an MOT, it surely cant be fined for noise

selondonman

110 posts

184 months

Monday 2nd May
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on a busy road how will they be able to identify which car the nose is coming from, what happens if you have two cars which combine to make one loud noise ?

stevieturbo

16,072 posts

224 months

Monday 2nd May
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Mr Spoon said:
74db.... Surely lots of vehicles are over that ...
Depends how they test....background noise could be higher, who's to say where the noise came from ?

NMNeil

3,919 posts

27 months

Monday 2nd May
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selondonman said:
if a car passes an MOT, it surely cant be fined for noise
The noise check for the MOT simply states

"Exhaust noise from the vehicle must not be unreasonably above the noise level normally expected from a similar vehicle with a standard silencer in average condition."

No actual measurements made, just the testers interpretation, so if it's been tested by a corrupt tester who feigned deafness, yes you can still be fined.

Terminator X

11,950 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd May
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If you just deny the offence though how on earth can they prove it? Surely this just relies on fools fessing up every time a ticket arrives.

TX.

SturdyHSV

9,009 posts

144 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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Mr Spoon said:
74db.... Surely lots of vehicles are over that ...
Yep, lorries for example just due to sheer tyre noise I'd imagine.

Easiest explanation would probably be "Sorry officer, there was a pheasant running towards the road and I blew my horn to try to discourage it"

fred bloggs

854 posts

177 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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NMNeil said:
Back off the throttle until you pass the noise detector, then return to being a tt immediately afterwards?
That never happens with speed cameras, does it ? They actually tell you to do this on trackdays.

I'd be genuinely shocked if ANY car is under 74 db at 70 mph, even electric. Tires are at least 74 db.

I Live near an airport, so there probably wont be any in my locality anyhow.

stevieturbo

16,072 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd May
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Terminator X said:
If you just deny the offence though how on earth can they prove it? Surely this just relies on fools fessing up every time a ticket arrives.

TX.
As with most motoring laws, they twist everything so you are guilty, unless you can prove otherwise. Which often is either extremely expensive, or nigh on impossible.
Almost all motoring laws are guilty until prove innocent. And all the cops etc have to do is make an allegation against you, often they require no real proper evidence, and they have the full might of the legal pricks behind them to make your life a misery, whereas you have to pay for your entire defense yourself ( and even worse....your taxes pay for your prosecution )

Monaro5.7

Original Poster:

7,287 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th May
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vxr2010 said:
been talking about it for ages , they are already in london knightsbridge Kensington and Chelsea areas
Yeah i beleive this is the trial areas

NMNeil

3,919 posts

27 months

Wednesday 4th May
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Terminator X said:
If you just deny the offence though how on earth can they prove it? Surely this just relies on fools fessing up every time a ticket arrives.

TX.
This is why tickets are not the answer, but informing the owner that the car has to be bought into the local police station to check the exhaust would work.

stevieturbo

16,072 posts

224 months

Wednesday 4th May
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NMNeil said:
This is why tickets are not the answer, but informing the owner that the car has to be bought into the local police station to check the exhaust would work.
Police haven't got the first notion either, so that would be pointless. And there is still not testing standard in place for this.

A500leroy

3,359 posts

95 months

Wednesday 4th May
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my lawnmowers 99db...

NMNeil

3,919 posts

27 months

Wednesday 4th May
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stevieturbo said:
NMNeil said:
This is why tickets are not the answer, but informing the owner that the car has to be bought into the local police station to check the exhaust would work.
Police haven't got the first notion either, so that would be pointless. And there is still not testing standard in place for this.
The noise standard since 2016 is 72db
https://www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/fu...
And all you have to do is buy a db meter and have the officer use it. Not too complicated and the result would be pass or fail and only take a minute or two.
Watching the video you link to in your bio, that Granada would be a fail without question if it was driven on the public roads.