Car firm values

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Lost ranger

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312 posts

80 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Values by market capitalisation

BMW $64bn
Ford $57bn
GM $58bn
Mercedes $69bn
VW $106bn
Toyota $241bn
Tesla $897bn.





ChocolateFrog

31,740 posts

188 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Lost ranger said:
Values by market capitalisation

BMW $64bn
Ford $57bn
GM $58bn
Mercedes $69bn
VW $106bn
Toyota $241bn
Tesla $897bn.
And?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

249 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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ChocolateFrog said:
Lost ranger said:
Values by market capitalisation

BMW $64bn
Ford $57bn
GM $58bn
Mercedes $69bn
VW $106bn
Toyota $241bn
Tesla $897bn.
And?
+1. Who cares?

Wills2

26,026 posts

190 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Plus they're not even remotely accurate... Tesla is currently around $797bn

georgeyboy12345

3,919 posts

50 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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These ludicrously high valuations for Tesla based on a lack of anything tangible (in comparison to proper companies like Toyota or VWG with loads of cars on the road) just seem wrong to me, kind of like bitcoin. An over-inflated bubble.

Monkeylegend

27,703 posts

246 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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TVR £4.57

Jon556

431 posts

41 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Monkeylegend said:
TVR £4.57
They could buy a roof tile with that.

Monkeylegend

27,703 posts

246 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Jon556 said:
Monkeylegend said:
TVR £4.57
They could buy a roof tile with that.
Sorry, that should have read (£4.57)

Previous

1,551 posts

169 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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georgeyboy12345 said:
These ludicrously high valuations for Tesla based on a lack of anything tangible (in comparison to proper companies like Toyota or VWG with loads of cars on the road) just seem wrong to me, kind of like bitcoin. An over-inflated bubble.
You're probably right.

Tesla do have a range of other products that they could capitalise on - charging network for one, home energy solutions another.

Not sure it's worth that much difference though.

Now I've said that Tesla market cap will double!



750turbo

6,164 posts

239 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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Utterly pointless unless they want in to NPE smile

Lost ranger

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312 posts

80 months

Sunday 15th May 2022
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Wills2 said:
Plus they're not even remotely accurate... Tesla is currently around $797bn
A couple of weeks out of date certainly, but Tesla is still bizarrely high. All about anticipated earnings of course.

Edited by Lost ranger on Sunday 15th May 08:18

D4rez

1,667 posts

71 months

Sunday 15th May 2022
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georgeyboy12345 said:
These ludicrously high valuations for Tesla based on a lack of anything tangible (in comparison to proper companies like Toyota or VWG with loads of cars on the road) just seem wrong to me, kind of like bitcoin. An over-inflated bubble.
Tesla has an operating margin about twice that of VW/Ford etc despite much lower volumes. Given their sales growth and ambitions (pickups, smaller vehicles etc), and almost total lack of debt now, it’s pretty reasonable

The spinner of plates

18,075 posts

215 months

Sunday 15th May 2022
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D4rez said:
georgeyboy12345 said:
These ludicrously high valuations for Tesla based on a lack of anything tangible (in comparison to proper companies like Toyota or VWG with loads of cars on the road) just seem wrong to me, kind of like bitcoin. An over-inflated bubble.
Tesla has an operating margin about twice that of VW/Ford etc despite much lower volumes. Given their sales growth and ambitions (pickups, smaller vehicles etc), and almost total lack of debt now, it’s pretty reasonable
Plus the infrastructure. I know a couple of Tesla owners.
They like the cars but can see their weaknesses and are open that others maybe just as good. But the charging network, that’s the bit that adds added value right now vs others.