Lets look at our guitars thread

Lets look at our guitars thread

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smn159

13,749 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th January
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Good work! What do you think of it? I've been on the waiting list for a while but think I've got a couple of years to go yet!

Is it worth the wait?

davidd

6,558 posts

295 months

Wednesday 15th January
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AndrewGP said:
I have a desire to get another Gibson Les Paul, most likely a Standard or equivalent....but would value some advice from the PH hive mind.

I used to have a Gibson Les Paul Studio in 2006 ish, it was my second guitar (I was 27 when I started learning!) and whilst it was a lovely thing, the 50s neck was a bit chunky for me and the tuning stability was awful. I sold it and gravitated towards Fender; my go-to guitars nowadays are Fender Teles although I have a PRS Zack Myers SE single cut Les Paul style as well. The PRS plays really nicely, it has a satin neck which feels great and it stays in tune. The pickups are ok, but nothing special. It's worth about £800 at a guess.

First question, is a £2300 Gibson LP worth the step up in terms of quality, playing feel and sound? Has the tuning stability got better or was I just unlucky?

If so, how do I narrow down what I want in terms of model and year? The choice is vast especially when you factor in the used market and what may or may not be a 'good' year. I know I need to go and play some (especially to try the 60s neck) but if I go used I can't easily do that. Would value the PH opinions!
Back in 2014 I spent months finding the right les paul. I had a few requirements on burst type and I wanted full fat so not a studio. In the end I played a 2013 standard in my local pmt, 60's tapered neck which fitted my hands really well, a bit of weight relief and just felt right. Was about £1,400 from what I recall (this was new). There was nothing I didn't like about it but I have replaced the pickups for bare knuckle (riff raff and mule) and swapped the circuit board and pots for a Jimmy Page switching one. It's also just had a new nut.
It has locking tuners as standard and tuning is very stable, we typically play a 2 hour set and it needs very little tuning adjustment. It has been professionally set up a couple of times.

It is no longer my main gigging guitar as my hands suffer from a bit of stiffness and even with weight relief it is a bit of a lump (Ibanez AZ is my go to these days) but it is my backup and gets used for a few songs each gig.

I guess what I'm saying is, try a few even the same year and model can feel very different. If you are anywhere near cambridge you are more than welcome to have a go on mine.

davidd

6,558 posts

295 months

Wednesday 15th January
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angusfaldo said:
I popped my name on the Analogman waiting list for a King of Tone on 12 November 2018 and promptly forgot all about it. Dec 15th just gone the invite to buy one finally arrived and this week the pedal landed from the USA. Over 6 years to get one. I don't suppose that getting on the wait list now will ever yield a pedal. Here it is:



Anyone else a fan?
I was on the list, when I finally got to the top I had already invested in a couple of thorpy pedals that gave me what I needed. Would be interested to have a play if I ever start using real pedals again.

AndrewGP

2,039 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th January
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franki68 said:
I just watched an intersting Gutherie govan interview where he talks about this stuff , basically he says experiment with what you have to get the tone you want , if the se is nice to play but the issue is the pickups change the pickups ,much cheaper option then the alternative of buying another guitar .
If you’re on the other hand you are obsessed with having a Gibson then go to a store try the different types and then leave and search for that model used .
davidd said:
I guess what I'm saying is, try a few even the same year and model can feel very different. If you are anywhere near cambridge you are more than welcome to have a go on mine.
Thanks both, it's obvious I've got to get myself out to a few guitar shops and just have a play of some different LP guitars to see what's what.

Appreciate the offer David, thank you but I'm in Wiltshire which is a bit far!

chemistry

2,580 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th January
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AndrewGP said:
Thanks both, it's obvious I've got to get myself out to a few guitar shops and just have a play of some different LP guitars to see what's what.

Appreciate the offer David, thank you but I'm in Wiltshire which is a bit far!
If you are in Wiltshire, check this place out if you haven't done so already.

https://www.guitar-auctions.co.uk/

I've been to a few of their auctions and there's an amazing array of stuff available; search here for "Les Paul" and you'll see what went through the last auction: https://www.guitar-auctions.co.uk/sale/229/day-two... (prices are shown, but remember you need to add the buyers premium). They have viewing days where you can go and try the guitars before you buy.

Cbull

4,481 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th January
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Not been on PH for a short while and thought I'd have a quick catch up within the guitar threads. Remembered I took a pic of all my guitars before Christmas and thought may as well stick'em up here. Literally all the gear no idea unfortunately for me. 2 years in learning but it turns out I'm better at buying stuff than playing it ha ha. Tried top get one of each tuning I'd use but obviously ended up with waay too many, might be selling the Gibson SG as I won that in a competition and of course used it as leverage to purchase my dream Slash LP to the misses.


Cbull

4,481 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th January
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chemistry said:
If you are in Wiltshire, check this place out if you haven't done so already.

https://www.guitar-auctions.co.uk/

I've been to a few of their auctions and there's an amazing array of stuff available; search here for "Les Paul" and you'll see what went through the last auction: https://www.guitar-auctions.co.uk/sale/229/day-two... (prices are shown, but remember you need to add the buyers premium). They have viewing days where you can go and try the guitars before you buy.
Won my K-7 from there. Bit of a trek for me to pick it up but was happy as Larry winning it. My Sister also won a beautiful ESP Master Of Puppets anniversary guitar too. You can really get a bargain from there if your lucky.

Mastodon2

13,971 posts

176 months

Thursday 16th January
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Cbull said:
Not been on PH for a short while and thought I'd have a quick catch up within the guitar threads. Remembered I took a pic of all my guitars before Christmas and thought may as well stick'em up here. Literally all the gear no idea unfortunately for me. 2 years in learning but it turns out I'm better at buying stuff than playing it ha ha. Tried top get one of each tuning I'd use but obviously ended up with waay too many, might be selling the Gibson SG as I won that in a competition and of course used it as leverage to purchase my dream Slash LP to the misses.

That Blade Grey K7 is an absolute gem. I've got a Firespark Blue K7 and I'll never sell it.

Cbull

4,481 posts

182 months

Thursday 16th January
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Mastodon2 said:
That Blade Grey K7 is an absolute gem. I've got a Firespark Blue K7 and I'll never sell it.
Ahh a fellow man with great taste ha ha. An absolute dream guitar for me as I've been a huge fan for forever, I seen them for the first time last year too which was great.

Personally I much prefer the Blue so if you fancy a swap just give me a shout wink but similar to yourself mine will be passed on as a family loom.

MrVert

4,435 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th January
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Had a few guitars over the years, but mostly second hand stuff..

Have had an Epiphone Les Paul Custom which is great, but fancied a semi hollow guitar..

So incoming is a Riviera in Royal Tan…



Cannot flipping wait!

Chubbyross

4,667 posts

96 months

Thursday 16th January
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I’m not sure if this has been posted yet but here’s the full listing for the Jeff Beck collection up for sale at Christie’s. Some stunning stuff there and the guide prices will be somewhat low I suspect. For example his Klon pedal has an estimate at £3k. I believe people are paying around £5k for an original, and that’s a non-celebrity one. I’ll be very interested to see what the Les Paul goes for.

https://www.christies.com/en/auction/jeff-beck-the...

franki68

10,825 posts

232 months

Friday 17th January
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chemistry said:
Pictures...

chemistry

2,580 posts

120 months

Friday 17th January
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franki68 said:
Nice!!!

Yahonza

2,437 posts

41 months

Friday 17th January
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chemistry said:
Nice!!!
+1 Nice Charvel

Nik Gnashers

911 posts

167 months

Saturday 18th January
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Probably not pf much interest to the majority here, and it will no doubt be lost in the sea of electric lookalikes, but oh well here goes ...

After owning probably a dozen different brands of various cheap-to-£1000 acoustics over the years, 8 years ago I decided to order a hand made Lowden.
I fell in love with the sound of these instruments, as they do sound slightly unique, maybe down to the George Lowden unique bracing, and 5 piece neck, who knows, but I thought they all sounded wonderful.
So I ordered a 32se, which is an F shape body, with a slightly shallower depth and built in L R Baggs anthem pickup, specifically designed for comfortable stage playing. It just happened to sound bloody wonderful acoustically too, even with it's fairly common Sitka Spruce top and Indian Rosewood back & sides.
Now, I have never been a rich man, and the 4 grand it cost, was a big investment. I don't regret it for a moment, as I have enjoyed every second of it, a wonderful playable instrument.
So, 8 years later I started to get the itch for another. I wanted something that would sound different, tonally, but I knew it had to be another Lowden.
After much thought, and hours of watching various tonewood comparisons, I have placed my order.
It will be an F50c, so a similar shape/size, but slightly deeper body, with a cutaway. The 50 series is built with master grade tonewoods, literally the best of the best, and the woods I have chosen are actually George Lowden's personal favourite.

The top will be Sinker Redwood, from North America, but from wood which had 'fallen off' the boat, and lay at the bottom of a river for many years then reclaimed. The lack of oxygen at the river bed, sort of artificially fossilises the wood, giving it a unique (from other Redwoods, let alone from other woods entirely). character in both appearance and tone.
The back & sides will be African Blackwood, a heavy, stiff, and rare wood, which rings like a bell, uneaqualled sustain.
These woods together give a darker, warmer, sound, which is exactly what I'm after, as much as I love the 32se, it is quite a 'bright' sound.

I have specified a 'bevel' for comfort, and a factory fitted L R Baggs anthem pickup.

The build time is 6 months !
And the cost ? ... The RRP is 'over' 12 grand, although I managed to get it a little cheaper.

I guess I will have to carry on playing the old for for a while yet, but looking forward to my dream guitar in the summer.

M5-911

1,497 posts

56 months

Saturday 18th January
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Nik Gnashers said:
Probably not pf much interest to the majority here, and it will no doubt be lost in the sea of electric lookalikes, but oh well here goes ...

After owning probably a dozen different brands of various cheap-to-£1000 acoustics over the years, 8 years ago I decided to order a hand made Lowden.
I fell in love with the sound of these instruments, as they do sound slightly unique, maybe down to the George Lowden unique bracing, and 5 piece neck, who knows, but I thought they all sounded wonderful.
So I ordered a 32se, which is an F shape body, with a slightly shallower depth and built in L R Baggs anthem pickup, specifically designed for comfortable stage playing. It just happened to sound bloody wonderful acoustically too, even with it's fairly common Sitka Spruce top and Indian Rosewood back & sides.
Now, I have never been a rich man, and the 4 grand it cost, was a big investment. I don't regret it for a moment, as I have enjoyed every second of it, a wonderful playable instrument.
So, 8 years later I started to get the itch for another. I wanted something that would sound different, tonally, but I knew it had to be another Lowden.
After much thought, and hours of watching various tonewood comparisons, I have placed my order.
It will be an F50c, so a similar shape/size, but slightly deeper body, with a cutaway. The 50 series is built with master grade tonewoods, literally the best of the best, and the woods I have chosen are actually George Lowden's personal favourite.

The top will be Sinker Redwood, from North America, but from wood which had 'fallen off' the boat, and lay at the bottom of a river for many years then reclaimed. The lack of oxygen at the river bed, sort of artificially fossilises the wood, giving it a unique (from other Redwoods, let alone from other woods entirely). character in both appearance and tone.
The back & sides will be African Blackwood, a heavy, stiff, and rare wood, which rings like a bell, uneaqualled sustain.
These woods together give a darker, warmer, sound, which is exactly what I'm after, as much as I love the 32se, it is quite a 'bright' sound.

I have specified a 'bevel' for comfort, and a factory fitted L R Baggs anthem pickup.

The build time is 6 months !
And the cost ? ... The RRP is 'over' 12 grand, although I managed to get it a little cheaper.

I guess I will have to carry on playing the old for for a while yet, but looking forward to my dream guitar in the summer.
Sounds like you are going to own an incredible guitar. Can't wait to see the pictures of the finished article!

vdn

9,103 posts

214 months

Saturday 18th January
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Nik Gnashers said:
Probably not pf much interest to the majority here, and it will no doubt be lost in the sea of electric lookalikes, but oh well here goes ...

After owning probably a dozen different brands of various cheap-to-£1000 acoustics over the years, 8 years ago I decided to order a hand made Lowden.
I fell in love with the sound of these instruments, as they do sound slightly unique, maybe down to the George Lowden unique bracing, and 5 piece neck, who knows, but I thought they all sounded wonderful.
So I ordered a 32se, which is an F shape body, with a slightly shallower depth and built in L R Baggs anthem pickup, specifically designed for comfortable stage playing. It just happened to sound bloody wonderful acoustically too, even with it's fairly common Sitka Spruce top and Indian Rosewood back & sides.
Now, I have never been a rich man, and the 4 grand it cost, was a big investment. I don't regret it for a moment, as I have enjoyed every second of it, a wonderful playable instrument.
So, 8 years later I started to get the itch for another. I wanted something that would sound different, tonally, but I knew it had to be another Lowden.
After much thought, and hours of watching various tonewood comparisons, I have placed my order.
It will be an F50c, so a similar shape/size, but slightly deeper body, with a cutaway. The 50 series is built with master grade tonewoods, literally the best of the best, and the woods I have chosen are actually George Lowden's personal favourite.

The top will be Sinker Redwood, from North America, but from wood which had 'fallen off' the boat, and lay at the bottom of a river for many years then reclaimed. The lack of oxygen at the river bed, sort of artificially fossilises the wood, giving it a unique (from other Redwoods, let alone from other woods entirely). character in both appearance and tone.
The back & sides will be African Blackwood, a heavy, stiff, and rare wood, which rings like a bell, uneaqualled sustain.
These woods together give a darker, warmer, sound, which is exactly what I'm after, as much as I love the 32se, it is quite a 'bright' sound.

I have specified a 'bevel' for comfort, and a factory fitted L R Baggs anthem pickup.

The build time is 6 months !
And the cost ? ... The RRP is 'over' 12 grand, although I managed to get it a little cheaper.

I guess I will have to carry on playing the old for for a while yet, but looking forward to my dream guitar in the summer.
Awesome!

slopes

40,366 posts

198 months

Saturday 18th January
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Nik Gnashers said:
Probably not pf much interest to the majority here, and it will no doubt be lost in the sea of electric lookalikes, but oh well here goes ...

After owning probably a dozen different brands of various cheap-to-£1000 acoustics over the years, 8 years ago I decided to order a hand made Lowden.
I fell in love with the sound of these instruments, as they do sound slightly unique, maybe down to the George Lowden unique bracing, and 5 piece neck, who knows, but I thought they all sounded wonderful.
So I ordered a 32se, which is an F shape body, with a slightly shallower depth and built in L R Baggs anthem pickup, specifically designed for comfortable stage playing. It just happened to sound bloody wonderful acoustically too, even with it's fairly common Sitka Spruce top and Indian Rosewood back & sides.
Now, I have never been a rich man, and the 4 grand it cost, was a big investment. I don't regret it for a moment, as I have enjoyed every second of it, a wonderful playable instrument.
So, 8 years later I started to get the itch for another. I wanted something that would sound different, tonally, but I knew it had to be another Lowden.
After much thought, and hours of watching various tonewood comparisons, I have placed my order.
It will be an F50c, so a similar shape/size, but slightly deeper body, with a cutaway. The 50 series is built with master grade tonewoods, literally the best of the best, and the woods I have chosen are actually George Lowden's personal favourite.

The top will be Sinker Redwood, from North America, but from wood which had 'fallen off' the boat, and lay at the bottom of a river for many years then reclaimed. The lack of oxygen at the river bed, sort of artificially fossilises the wood, giving it a unique (from other Redwoods, let alone from other woods entirely). character in both appearance and tone.
The back & sides will be African Blackwood, a heavy, stiff, and rare wood, which rings like a bell, uneaqualled sustain.
These woods together give a darker, warmer, sound, which is exactly what I'm after, as much as I love the 32se, it is quite a 'bright' sound.

I have specified a 'bevel' for comfort, and a factory fitted L R Baggs anthem pickup.

The build time is 6 months !
And the cost ? ... The RRP is 'over' 12 grand, although I managed to get it a little cheaper.

I guess I will have to carry on playing the old for for a while yet, but looking forward to my dream guitar in the summer.
It's not my personal taste but i can certainly see the attraction.
Myself, i keep thinking about a Taylor T5z as i can have the best of both worlds. If i want to play acoustic i an but if i ant to shred electric i can.


Having said that, the current Epiphone Inspired by Gibson ES-339 is also appealing

Anyway, i am sure your new guitar will be a thing of beauty and look spectaular and i would love to see the pictures of it when it arrives

Nik Gnashers

911 posts

167 months

Sunday 19th January
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Thanks for the replies chaps !

It is a massive investment for me, but it certainly wont be a show queen, my current Lowden gets absolutely hammered.

I will certainly post some pics when it arrives. I almost feel guilty for spending so much on it, but I figure it will be my dream guitar for the rest of my life, and I just know if I don't pull the trigger now, I'll never do it and regret it forever.

I play for free at old folk homes, folk nights, open mics, etc so I'm sure it will be appreciated by others too, for it's amazing sound.
Don't consider myself to be an amazing guitar player, but I hope I can do it justice !

M5-911

1,497 posts

56 months

Sunday 19th January
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slopes said:
It's not my personal taste but i can certainly see the attraction.
Myself, i keep thinking about a Taylor T5z as i can have the best of both worlds. If i want to play acoustic i an but if i ant to shred electric i can.


Having said that, the current Epiphone Inspired by Gibson ES-339 is also appealing

Anyway, i am sure your new guitar will be a thing of beauty and look spectaular and i would love to see the pictures of it when it arrives
Dam, why did you mentioned the T5z? I might have to get one now....

I will check if the pro is available in good colours.