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Yazza54 said:
We don't really have that issue, the motorcycle slipper clutches take care of the back - torque.
As for lines, I suppose it's that fear factor of the chronic understeer having me off if I enter too wide, as these cars do have a tendency to plough on severely in the wet.. but also trying to turn the car in tight means having loads of lock still applied while trying to get out of the corner and wind on the power which is also not remotely favourable.
IIRC it is called the "Karting Line" and it works on Karts and may be worth trying even if only in practicing.As for lines, I suppose it's that fear factor of the chronic understeer having me off if I enter too wide, as these cars do have a tendency to plough on severely in the wet.. but also trying to turn the car in tight means having loads of lock still applied while trying to get out of the corner and wind on the power which is also not remotely favourable.
Edited by Yazza54 on Saturday 3rd August 20:38
alfie2244 said:
Yazza54 said:
We don't really have that issue, the motorcycle slipper clutches take care of the back - torque.
As for lines, I suppose it's that fear factor of the chronic understeer having me off if I enter too wide, as these cars do have a tendency to plough on severely in the wet.. but also trying to turn the car in tight means having loads of lock still applied while trying to get out of the corner and wind on the power which is also not remotely favourable.
IIRC it is called the "Karting Line" and it works on Karts and may be worth trying even if only in practicing.As for lines, I suppose it's that fear factor of the chronic understeer having me off if I enter too wide, as these cars do have a tendency to plough on severely in the wet.. but also trying to turn the car in tight means having loads of lock still applied while trying to get out of the corner and wind on the power which is also not remotely favourable.
Edited by Yazza54 on Saturday 3rd August 20:38
Yazza54 said:
alfie2244 said:
Yazza54 said:
We don't really have that issue, the motorcycle slipper clutches take care of the back - torque.
As for lines, I suppose it's that fear factor of the chronic understeer having me off if I enter too wide, as these cars do have a tendency to plough on severely in the wet.. but also trying to turn the car in tight means having loads of lock still applied while trying to get out of the corner and wind on the power which is also not remotely favourable.
IIRC it is called the "Karting Line" and it works on Karts and may be worth trying even if only in practicing.As for lines, I suppose it's that fear factor of the chronic understeer having me off if I enter too wide, as these cars do have a tendency to plough on severely in the wet.. but also trying to turn the car in tight means having loads of lock still applied while trying to get out of the corner and wind on the power which is also not remotely favourable.
Edited by Yazza54 on Saturday 3rd August 20:38
Live stream link for the weekend
https://youtu.be/CQorNQi0WMI
Our race 1 is at 1.20pm and race 2 on Sunday at 11.35am
Subject to any changes to the time table of course
https://youtu.be/CQorNQi0WMI
Our race 1 is at 1.20pm and race 2 on Sunday at 11.35am
Subject to any changes to the time table of course
A bit late to say, but good luck for the race!
As Silverstone has been resurfaced, the normal racing line is much better than it's been before. Previously you'd have to be way off it to find the grip, but looks much better at the moment. At the Silverstone Classic in the wet everyone looked to be taking the normal line. I wasn't running, but my friend who was confirmed it.
Have fun.
Bert
As Silverstone has been resurfaced, the normal racing line is much better than it's been before. Previously you'd have to be way off it to find the grip, but looks much better at the moment. At the Silverstone Classic in the wet everyone looked to be taking the normal line. I wasn't running, but my friend who was confirmed it.
Have fun.
Bert
I wouldn't say it was a good result, I struggled like hell and ultimately I should have been further up given I was similar pace to my team mates on Friday in testing. I couldn't make any forward progress and could only worry about what was behind me. Went through all my notes and I'd gone too far on the rear rebound causing the back end to lose grip/skip under braking so ended up going back to my session 2 Friday settings for race 2. We did also give it some more front toe out which had the effect of improving turn in as you'd expect but made the rear too snappy.
Was much faster in race 2 but 2 spins and a broken gear lever meant my first dnf.
A few people had accidents and considerable damage after race 2 so I reminded myself that it could have been much worse, it won't always go your way in racing and a bad day is a smashed up car, let's just say I had a frustrating day!
I suspected I would struggle to hold on to 2nd in the championship and ultimately the main reason I was there was because I'd been consistently picking up points rather than being very fast.
I'm still struggling to get to a reasonable level of confidence in the car and in all honesty I'm finding it difficult to enjoy at the moment. I had issues with the slower speed, technical stuff earlier on and now I've traded an improvement there for lack of feel and stability at high speed, all in all I've not yet had a good all round setup and I'm at the end of my tether trying to find it myself. I think ultimately I've got the car setup too soft, whilst I did often complain of understeer in my old car the back end was always stable particularly in high speed corners and I need to get that feeling back. Granted I'm still going faster than I was last year but I'm driving with less confidence and feel for the car which is limiting any further progress.
I have some setup and testing time planned with Tim Gray who has vast experience with the Spire so I'm sure I'll get there... That has to be the main aim for me this year, championship wise it'll be what it'll be. I'm still waiting for that moment where it all clicks and right now I think that'll be a better feeling than anything else.
Was much faster in race 2 but 2 spins and a broken gear lever meant my first dnf.
A few people had accidents and considerable damage after race 2 so I reminded myself that it could have been much worse, it won't always go your way in racing and a bad day is a smashed up car, let's just say I had a frustrating day!
I suspected I would struggle to hold on to 2nd in the championship and ultimately the main reason I was there was because I'd been consistently picking up points rather than being very fast.
I'm still struggling to get to a reasonable level of confidence in the car and in all honesty I'm finding it difficult to enjoy at the moment. I had issues with the slower speed, technical stuff earlier on and now I've traded an improvement there for lack of feel and stability at high speed, all in all I've not yet had a good all round setup and I'm at the end of my tether trying to find it myself. I think ultimately I've got the car setup too soft, whilst I did often complain of understeer in my old car the back end was always stable particularly in high speed corners and I need to get that feeling back. Granted I'm still going faster than I was last year but I'm driving with less confidence and feel for the car which is limiting any further progress.
I have some setup and testing time planned with Tim Gray who has vast experience with the Spire so I'm sure I'll get there... That has to be the main aim for me this year, championship wise it'll be what it'll be. I'm still waiting for that moment where it all clicks and right now I think that'll be a better feeling than anything else.
Nil desperandum! It's only the first year in the car and there's lots to learn with it. 4th is still a good result even if it's not where you thought it could be. I'd expect Tim Gray might be able to help a bit.
I'm really down in the dumps with my season with 5 DNFs (and unusually, not my fault! in 8 races and a mile off the pace. It feels really rubbish, worse than rubbish. In fact things have gone downhill really for 2 seasons, so time for a big rethink, but this is your thread, not mine
Hope you make some good setup progress.
Cheers
Bert
I'm really down in the dumps with my season with 5 DNFs (and unusually, not my fault! in 8 races and a mile off the pace. It feels really rubbish, worse than rubbish. In fact things have gone downhill really for 2 seasons, so time for a big rethink, but this is your thread, not mine
Hope you make some good setup progress.
Cheers
Bert
Here's my race 2 video
Positives, I suppose I was much faster than in race 1 and I got back up to 5th from dead last with relative ease.
Negatives, well that would be stating the bleedin' obvious...
https://youtu.be/unsKQjRAxmM
That second spin still makes no sense to me, I'm wondering if the debris from someone's crash the lap before had something to do with it. Either way the snapped gear lever would have put an end to the fun.
Positives, I suppose I was much faster than in race 1 and I got back up to 5th from dead last with relative ease.
Negatives, well that would be stating the bleedin' obvious...
https://youtu.be/unsKQjRAxmM
That second spin still makes no sense to me, I'm wondering if the debris from someone's crash the lap before had something to do with it. Either way the snapped gear lever would have put an end to the fun.
Saw your thread come back up and read what I wrote. Just goes to show... Shortly after I wrote that, I had one of my best racing weekends ever at the oulton park gold cup. We found and fixed the handling issue and the car held together! 3 podiums out of 4 races!
Truly the ups and downs of motor racing!
Good luck this season!
Bert
Truly the ups and downs of motor racing!
Good luck this season!
Bert
BertBert said:
Nil desperandum! It's only the first year in the car and there's lots to learn with it. 4th is still a good result even if it's not where you thought it could be. I'd expect Tim Gray might be able to help a bit.
I'm really down in the dumps with my season with 5 DNFs (and unusually, not my fault! in 8 races and a mile off the pace. It feels really rubbish, worse than rubbish. In fact things have gone downhill really for 2 seasons, so time for a big rethink, but this is your thread, not mine
Hope you make some good setup progress.
Cheers
Bert
I'm really down in the dumps with my season with 5 DNFs (and unusually, not my fault! in 8 races and a mile off the pace. It feels really rubbish, worse than rubbish. In fact things have gone downhill really for 2 seasons, so time for a big rethink, but this is your thread, not mine
Hope you make some good setup progress.
Cheers
Bert
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