Uk club racing after covid19?

Uk club racing after covid19?

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Kraken

1,536 posts

158 months

Tuesday 24th March
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BertBert said:
I love the idea of having capped lap times. Is that a thing used elsewhere?
Pretty sure the 24hr Creventic series uses capped lap times for some of its classes.

MG CHRIS

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7,186 posts

125 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Kraken said:
BertBert said:
I love the idea of having capped lap times. Is that a thing used elsewhere?
Pretty sure the 24hr Creventic series uses capped lap times for some of its classes.
And pembrey with the welsh sports and saloon car series.
Msuk have further delayed racing till june suspect that will go further than that so very unlikely we see any racing till late summer if at all.


Dynion Araf Uchaf

2,577 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th March
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MG CHRIS said:
And pembrey with the welsh sports and saloon car series.
Msuk have further delayed racing till june suspect that will go further than that so very unlikely we see any racing till late summer if at all.
might need to enter the races now. I predict they might get full grids if its that late.

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2,377 posts

78 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
might need to enter the races now. I predict they might get full grids if its that late.
Doubt, you would be able to do this, as dates will move and certainly races will go from one event to another. Not that I personally think we will see any racing this year, Apart from maybe some winter series.



88racing

1,748 posts

114 months

Wednesday 25th March
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Was wondering what would happen if we get no club racing at all this season - would we get a refund of our license fee. Apparently not...

https://www.motorsportuk.org/covid-19-qa-updated-2...

epinettes

29 posts

29 months

Friday 3rd April
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I think it could be a difficult 2020 for club racing, especially as a lot of the meetings will be moved to accommodate calendar changes with F1, WEC, BTCC etc. But the optimistic side of me thinks 2021 could see some good growth. Despite everyone's income taking a hit this year, the enormous growth of sim racing (especially during this lockdown) may just prove to be the catalyst for those than can just about afford it to give the real thing a go next year. As long as people can build a car for £5-15k and run it for a few hundred pounds a meeting then it's within the reach of some of those who are now hooked in racing online. Maybe if clubs organise an e-series and give free entry to each of the online race winners it may make them thing about coming along next year...

BertBert

14,153 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd April
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It's hard to say, but you could be right. I don't think there'll be much club racing this season at all (if any).

Then perhaps everyone will be hooked on sim racing! Without getting into a debate about racing budgets as people manage in many different ways, buying a cheap race car and running it for a few hundred pounds a go is quite hard!

Bert

andy97

3,995 posts

180 months

Friday 3rd April
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88racing said:
Was wondering what would happen if we get no club racing at all this season - would we get a refund of our license fee. Apparently not...

https://www.motorsportuk.org/covid-19-qa-updated-2...
The most recently published annual report shows that the MUK had an income in 2018 of c£9.5M
And a wage bill alone of c£2.75M. When all the other operating expenditure was taken in to account its overall surplus was only c£250k, I think.

This year it won’t have the income from event permits and the competitors levy and yet it will still have the salaries and other expenses (rent etc) to pay.

I would hope for some goodwill gesture but I doubt they will have any money to do that whatsoever.

andy97

3,995 posts

180 months

Friday 3rd April
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epinettes said:
I think it could be a difficult 2020 for club racing, especially as a lot of the meetings will be moved to accommodate calendar changes with F1, WEC, BTCC etc.
CSCC have already announced that we have been bumped from our August 22/23 slot at Silverstone to accommodate a potentially re-arranged date for the WEC and wait until F1 starts trying to rearrange things!

MG CHRIS

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7,186 posts

125 months

Friday 3rd April
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andy97 said:
epinettes said:
I think it could be a difficult 2020 for club racing, especially as a lot of the meetings will be moved to accommodate calendar changes with F1, WEC, BTCC etc.
CSCC have already announced that we have been bumped from our August 22/23 slot at Silverstone to accommodate a potentially re-arranged date for the WEC and wait until F1 starts trying to rearrange things!
Which is strange as wec hasn't got Silverstone on the new schedule.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

2,577 posts

181 months

Friday 3rd April
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MG CHRIS said:
Which is strange as wec hasn't got Silverstone on the new schedule.
it is isn't strange at all, its the organisers trying to second guess which country will be first out of lock down, allied to where the teams are based. I would imagine all the promotors of each championship is trying to do the same.

I think racing in Italy won't happen this year, and I'm not sure it will happen in Spain either. UK, Germany, Holland, Scandinavia might be ok. France 50%, rest of world - who knows.

MG CHRIS

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7,186 posts

125 months

Friday 3rd April
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
MG CHRIS said:
Which is strange as wec hasn't got Silverstone on the new schedule.
it is isn't strange at all, its the organisers trying to second guess which country will be first out of lock down, allied to where the teams are based. I would imagine all the promotors of each championship is trying to do the same.

I think racing in Italy won't happen this year, and I'm not sure it will happen in Spain either. UK, Germany, Holland, Scandinavia might be ok. France 50%, rest of world - who knows.
True however I cant see big motorsport events taking place there is no way government will allow mass gatherings of people together until way into September if not the rest of the year.

Graham

16,333 posts

242 months

Friday 10th April
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I just noticed that msaUk have announced 1 million on grants to go to keeping motorsport clubs alive..

Dan BSCS

965 posts

194 months

Saturday 11th April
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Graham said:
I just noticed that msaUk have announced 1 million on grants to go to keeping motorsport clubs alive..
Yeah, that’s not going to go very far is it!

df76

2,544 posts

236 months

Saturday 11th April
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Dan BSCS said:
Yeah, that’s not going to go very far is it!
It'll cover the cost of some event cancellations. Many of the local clubs are run on a voluntary basis (the ones that organise all the grass roots stuff), so as long as they can tick over and not use up reserves / retain the use of venues for the future then they should be "ok" through 2020.

The clubs that run race meetings on a commercial basis must be really struggling, and would be amazed if there were no casualties.

Kraken

1,536 posts

158 months

Saturday 11th April
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Dan BSCS said:
Yeah, that’s not going to go very far is it!
I would have thought it would go a very long way. Don't forget that this money is on top of the money provided by the Government to small businesses already. How many clubs are there with serious financial commitments? Most of the ones I belong to are run by people with full time jobs who do it in their spare time. They can all be removed from the equation which means more money for those at the more "professional" end.

coppice

6,318 posts

102 months

Saturday 11th April
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Dan BSCS said:
Yeah, that’s not going to go very far is it!
Oh come on , it's a million quid better than nowt isn't it ? Shouldn't we be trying to look for the silver lining and not the cloud in these horrible times ?

andy97

3,995 posts

180 months

Saturday 11th April
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Dan BSCS said:
Graham said:
I just noticed that msaUk have announced 1 million on grants to go to keeping motorsport clubs alive..
Yeah, that’s not going to go very far is it!
I doubt that MUK have got much more to spare, it’s not a wealthy organisation. Fair play to them.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

2,577 posts

181 months

Saturday 11th April
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andy97 said:
I doubt that MUK have got much more to spare, it’s not a wealthy organisation. Fair play to them.
I thought they has 15 mill lying around to build the castle in the sky in Bicester.

Interestingly the fund is only open if you've gone through every other avenue. Also I would personally prefer it if the MUK handed out a million quid to lower competitors costs. I think we all need a grant of some sort

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2,377 posts

78 months

Saturday 11th April
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
andy97 said:
I doubt that MUK have got much more to spare, it’s not a wealthy organisation. Fair play to them.
I thought they has 15 mill lying around to build the castle in the sky in Bicester.

Interestingly the fund is only open if you've gone through every other avenue. Also I would personally prefer it if the MUK handed out a million quid to lower competitors costs. I think we all need a grant of some sort
I don't understand why you think competitors need money? How would it be allocated in any case?

If MSUK don't try to protect the "infrastructure" of motorsport there will be nothing for you to compete in.

As for having a lot of money "lying around" that is a contingency fund in case they get another large claim.