Uk club racing after covid19?

Uk club racing after covid19?

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Drumroll

2,179 posts

75 months

Sunday 7th June
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italianjob1275 said:
After reading the Motorsport UK guidelines I really can’t see how it’s going to work. 2 marshals per post, marshal gets the thumbs up from the driver then waits for the rescue unit. For every incident! There’s going to be a lot of red flags and some long days...


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Which is what I have been saying since they made the announcement.

It is not only if a driver needs help, but as they will not be allowed to even push cars, then unless a car can pull up well clear of the track, then it will be safety car (with only the driver in) to enable a recovery.

BertBert

13,811 posts

166 months

Sunday 7th June
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Drumroll said:
Which is what I have been saying since they made the announcement.

It is not only if a driver needs help, but as they will not be allowed to even push cars, then unless a car can pull up well clear of the track, then it will be safety car (with only the driver in) to enable a recovery.
Can the safety car not have 2 people in it wearing ppe?

Drumroll

2,179 posts

75 months

Sunday 7th June
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BertBert said:
Drumroll said:
Which is what I have been saying since they made the announcement.

It is not only if a driver needs help, but as they will not be allowed to even push cars, then unless a car can pull up well clear of the track, then it will be safety car (with only the driver in) to enable a recovery.
Can the safety car not have 2 people in it wearing ppe?
From what I have seen there is a fair bit of debate on this. There are problems using radios and face masks. Most hands free systems use a boom mike, that is not the best with a mask. Having just the driver means no need for a mask. Like so many things about this, what seems straight forward, isn't.

fesuvious

5,814 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th June
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Could just send recovery + a 4x4. That 2 peeps.

I don't see it's a major issue unless it's a major shunt

Drumroll

2,179 posts

75 months

Sunday 7th June
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fesuvious said:
Could just send recovery + a 4x4. That 2 peeps.

I don't see it's a major issue unless it's a major shunt
You can't put recovery onto a live circuit without "nuterlising" the race. As we don't do "full course yellows" and no one seems to use code 60 in the UK (currently) then the options are safety car or red flag.

andy97

3,887 posts

177 months

Sunday 7th June
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Drumroll said:
You can't put recovery onto a live circuit without "nuterlising" the race. As we don't do "full course yellows" and no one seems to use code 60 in the UK (currently) then the options are safety car or red flag.
I think CSCC use Code 60

Drumroll

2,179 posts

75 months

Sunday 7th June
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andy97 said:
Drumroll said:
You can't put recovery onto a live circuit without "nuterlising" the race. As we don't do "full course yellows" and no one seems to use code 60 in the UK (currently) then the options are safety car or red flag.
I think CSCC use Code 60
You could be correct, I haven't done a CSCC meeting for about 3 years. Certainly none of the other meetings I have done in that time use it.


Steve H

4,078 posts

150 months

Sunday 7th June
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Drumroll said:
From what I have seen there is a fair bit of debate on this. There are problems using radios and face masks. Most hands free systems use a boom mike, that is not the best with a mask. Having just the driver means no need for a mask. Like so many things about this, what seems straight forward, isn't.
Speaking as a safety car driver I don’t really see an issue with running solo. It’s a bit more to do and allowances will need to be made when observing car numbers in mirrors etc but I think on the whole it should be manageable without any issues.

Speaking as an instructor (and safety car driver) I fully support not sitting in enclosed spaces with other people for extended periods right now irrespective of PPE.

fesuvious

5,814 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th June
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Speaking as an OAP more like....

Drumroll

2,179 posts

75 months

Sunday 7th June
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fesuvious said:
Speaking as an OAP more like....
That's a bit cruel.

I can think of one safety car that could easily have 2 people in it. (apart from the age thing) Tony Sugden and his partner. Tony has just published a book celebrating his 70 years in motorsport.

http://www.tonysugden.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR1pTBBl6NvU...

fesuvious

5,814 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th June
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That's me, taking the mickey out of Steve.....

jsf

17,017 posts

191 months

Sunday 7th June
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Drumroll said:
That's a bit cruel.

I can think of one safety car that could easily have 2 people in it. (apart from the age thing) Tony Sugden and his partner. Tony has just published a book celebrating his 70 years in motorsport.

http://www.tonysugden.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR1pTBBl6NvU...
Tony and Rose, lovely people. It's a great shame John isn't still with us.

Steve H

4,078 posts

150 months

Sunday 7th June
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fesuvious said:
Speaking as an OAP more like....
Sore loser tongue outlaugh

I’ll always remember (from my bath chair) that pass into the hairpin at Rockingham in the wet whistle

Edited by Steve H on Sunday 7th June 20:57

fesuvious

5,814 posts

196 months

Sunday 7th June
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Snidey barrstaard

Steve H

4,078 posts

150 months

Sunday 7th June
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Hope to see you out there soon Matt beer

fesuvious

5,814 posts

196 months

Monday 8th June
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Ditto.
I plan to be directly behind you.

Steve H

4,078 posts

150 months

Monday 8th June
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That’s always my plan tongue out

ribiero

440 posts

121 months

Monday 8th June
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My first ever entry put into cscc.. I thought Thruxton would be canned so I didnt register at start of year but it's not and i'm crossing *everything* hoping I get a spot on tintops grid!

LucyP

375 posts

14 months

Tuesday 9th June
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Steve H - You say:

"Speaking as an instructor (and safety car driver) I fully support not sitting in enclosed spaces with other people for extended periods right now irrespective of PPE."

It will be happening in the medical car and in circuit ambulances (with PPE), but if you have noticed on the road, most crews haven't been wearing masks in the front. That will have to change from 15/06 as Hancock has made it mandatory for all NHS staff.

Steve H

4,078 posts

150 months

Tuesday 9th June
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Even with PPE I’m glad to say it’s an avoidable risk for the SC, TBH I wasn’t aware of the issue for ambulance staff (road or track) but I can see it being another hurdle to be overcome in getting racing going again.