Uk club racing after covid19?

[BertBert]

Drumroll said:

Which is what I have been saying since they made the announcement.

It is not only if a driver needs help, but as they will not be allowed to even push cars, then unless a car can pull up well clear of the track, then it will be safety car (with only the driver in) to enable a recovery.

Can the safety car not have 2 people in it wearing ppe?

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BertBert said:

Drumroll said:

Which is what I have been saying since they made the announcement.

It is not only if a driver needs help, but as they will not be allowed to even push cars, then unless a car can pull up well clear of the track, then it will be safety car (with only the driver in) to enable a recovery.

Can the safety car not have 2 people in it wearing ppe?

From what I have seen there is a fair bit of debate on this. There are problems using radios and face masks. Most hands free systems use a boom mike, that is not the best with a mask. Having just the driver means no need for a mask. Like so many things about this, what seems straight forward, isn't.

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fesuvious said:

Could just send recovery + a 4x4. That 2 peeps.

I don't see it's a major issue unless it's a major shunt

You can't put recovery onto a live circuit without "nuterlising" the race. As we don't do "full course yellows" and no one seems to use code 60 in the UK (currently) then the options are safety car or red flag.

[andy97]

Drumroll said:

You can't put recovery onto a live circuit without "nuterlising" the race. As we don't do "full course yellows" and no one seems to use code 60 in the UK (currently) then the options are safety car or red flag.

I think CSCC use Code 60

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andy97 said:

Drumroll said:

You can't put recovery onto a live circuit without "nuterlising" the race. As we don't do "full course yellows" and no one seems to use code 60 in the UK (currently) then the options are safety car or red flag.

I think CSCC use Code 60

You could be correct, I haven't done a CSCC meeting for about 3 years. Certainly none of the other meetings I have done in that time use it.

[Steve H]

Drumroll said:

From what I have seen there is a fair bit of debate on this. There are problems using radios and face masks. Most hands free systems use a boom mike, that is not the best with a mask. Having just the driver means no need for a mask. Like so many things about this, what seems straight forward, isn't.

Speaking as a safety car driver I don’t really see an issue with running solo. It’s a bit more to do and allowances will need to be made when observing car numbers in mirrors etc but I think on the whole it should be manageable without any issues.

Speaking as an instructor (and safety car driver) I fully support not sitting in enclosed spaces with other people for extended periods right now irrespective of PPE.

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fesuvious said:

Speaking as an OAP more like....

That's a bit cruel.

I can think of one safety car that could easily have 2 people in it. (apart from the age thing) Tony Sugden and his partner. Tony has just published a book celebrating his 70 years in motorsport.

http://www.tonysugden.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR1pTBBl6NvU...

[anonymous-user]

Drumroll said:

That's a bit cruel.

I can think of one safety car that could easily have 2 people in it. (apart from the age thing) Tony Sugden and his partner. Tony has just published a book celebrating his 70 years in motorsport.

http://www.tonysugden.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR1pTBBl6NvU...

Tony and Rose, lovely people. It's a great shame John isn't still with us.

[Steve H]

fesuvious said:

Speaking as an OAP more like....

Sore loser

I’ll always remember (from my bath chair) that pass into the hairpin at Rockingham in the wet

Edited by Steve H on Sunday 7th June 20:57

[Steve H]

Hope to see you out there soon Matt

[Steve H]

That’s always my plan

[ribiero]

My first ever entry put into cscc.. I thought Thruxton would be canned so I didnt register at start of year but it's not and i'm crossing *everything* hoping I get a spot on tintops grid!

[LucyP]

Steve H - You say:

"Speaking as an instructor (and safety car driver) I fully support not sitting in enclosed spaces with other people for extended periods right now irrespective of PPE."

It will be happening in the medical car and in circuit ambulances (with PPE), but if you have noticed on the road, most crews haven't been wearing masks in the front. That will have to change from 15/06 as Hancock has made it mandatory for all NHS staff.

[Steve H]

Even with PPE I’m glad to say it’s an avoidable risk for the SC, TBH I wasn’t aware of the issue for ambulance staff (road or track) but I can see it being another hurdle to be overcome in getting racing going again.

[n3il123]

I notice that BSB have just issued their new calendar, 6 rounds starting 7/9 August. I'm guessing that Toca will be next.

Will be interesting how they handle team numbers etc as BSB paddocks are packed with team members/ hanger onners plus all of the other infrastructure.

[geeks]

Drumroll said:

andy97 said:

Drumroll said:

You can't put recovery onto a live circuit without "nuterlising" the race. As we don't do "full course yellows" and no one seems to use code 60 in the UK (currently) then the options are safety car or red flag.

I think CSCC use Code 60

You could be correct, I haven't done a CSCC meeting for about 3 years. Certainly none of the other meetings I have done in that time use it.

Also don't forget some circuits are licensed for live snatch! (fnar fnar!)

n3il123 said:

I notice that BSB have just issued their new calendar, 6 rounds starting 7/9 August. I'm guessing that Toca will be next.

Will be interesting how they handle team numbers etc as BSB paddocks are packed with team members/ hanger onners plus all of the other infrastructure.

BTCC announced a while back...

https://www.btcc.net/calendar-2/

[n3il123]

geeks said:

BTCC announced a while back...

https://www.btcc.net/calendar-2/

Ah ok I missed that, I guess I saw the BSB as I follow a couple of MSV circuits on Facebook.

[Zoobeef]

MSUK to provide £50k of PPE

[Dan BSCS]

750MC have announced their calendar too now.

[LucyP]

"Will be interesting how they handle team numbers etc as BSB paddocks are packed with team members/ hanger onners plus all of the other infrastructure."

Stuart Higgs explains it here:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...

Dan - Are you sure 750MC has announced. There are no actual calendars on their website in spite of what they claim!