Difference between these TVs

Difference between these TVs

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GiantCardboardPlato

4,774 posts

24 months

Saturday 27th May 2023
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I did made the point about buying the cheaper one facetiously, sorry. And I am not a TV geek, not obsessed by picture quality etc. etc. But in a thread full of “doitdotidoit” I wanted to make the other case, and for me the main argument is that once it’s in your house, you aren’t comparing anymore. My own experience of buying TVs is that I’ve done loads of research, agonised about minutiae (contrast ratios, blackness of blacks, etc. etc.) for days, and then after buying one and plonking it down/nailing to wall, I haven’t thought once more about any of that, and always been impressed by the picture, because it’s not next to another telly!

Edited by GiantCardboardPlato on Saturday 27th May 13:08

redrabbit29

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1,523 posts

136 months

Saturday 27th May 2023
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GiantCardboardPlato said:
I did made the point about buying the cheaper one facetiously, sorry. And I am not a TV geek, not obsessed by picture quality etc. etc. But in a thread full of “doitdotidoit” I wanted to make the other case, and for me the main argument is that once it’s in your house, you aren’t comparing anymore. My own experience of buying TVs is that I’ve done loads of research, agonised about minutiae (contrast ratios, blackness of blacks, etc. etc.) for days, and then after buying one and plonking it down/nailing to wall, I haven’t thought once more about any of that, and always been impressed by the picture, because it’s not next to another telly!

Edited by GiantCardboardPlato on Saturday 27th May 13:08
You've made a very good point whatever your motivations were :-D

I am very similar. I'm not into cars (don't ask why I'm here!), or TVs really, or other things but I do get obsessed before a big purchase and basically feel like an expert for about a week then just forget about it whilst using it in its most basic way.

The issue with asking questions like mine anywhere (including on avforums) is you undoubtedly get the two types of people:

1) bigger is best/do it do it do it

2) The ones who really are experts and mention some very specific feature or thing which 95% of others would never even notice or care about


Timothy Bucktu

15,444 posts

203 months

Saturday 27th May 2023
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GiantCardboardPlato said:
I did made the point about buying the cheaper one facetiously, sorry. And I am not a TV geek, not obsessed by picture quality etc. etc. But in a thread full of “doitdotidoit” I wanted to make the other case, and for me the main argument is that once it’s in your house, you aren’t comparing anymore. My own experience of buying TVs is that I’ve done loads of research, agonised about minutiae (contrast ratios, blackness of blacks, etc. etc.) for days, and then after buying one and plonking it down/nailing to wall, I haven’t thought once more about any of that, and always been impressed by the picture, because it’s not next to another telly!
TLDR: I really wish I bought an OLED biggrin

GiantCardboardPlato

4,774 posts

24 months

Saturday 27th May 2023
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I prefer quantum dots to organic light emitters

TEKNOPUG

19,184 posts

208 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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GiantCardboardPlato said:
I prefer quantum dots to organic light emitters
But you can't tell the difference when you're at home without another TV to compare, right?

dickymint

24,959 posts

261 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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My sole reason for buying my Samsung (therefore Neo QLED) was down to Q symphony which along with a compatible Samsung soundbar, sub and rears allow the TV speakers to play at the same time. As an added bonus it's 8K UHD at a very reasonable price - odd though as they dropped the 8K for that model for the 2022 version.

TEKNOPUG

19,184 posts

208 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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Because there is no 8K content, nor is there ever likely to be. For 8K, see 3D.....

GiantCardboardPlato

4,774 posts

24 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
But you can't tell the difference when you're at home without another TV to compare, right?
Sorry I don’t mean in tellies, I just mean as a technology and based on appreciation for the chemistry involved. Lame in joke… OLEDS are just boring organic chemistry/dyes, QDs are fun interesting i organic chemistry with amazing control of assembly of the nano particles - emissive colour depends on size. When they make them, they can control size of the nano particles to within a few atoms, it’s amazing.

number2

4,374 posts

190 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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OLED is notably better, but as cardboard alluded to, will you care?

OLEDs are as bright as you'll ever need, don't fall for the myth they're not.

3m from a 77inch 4k TV is nothing like too close, any further and you lose the benefit anyway. Not that you'll want to but you can get surprisingly close and still see a great picture.

The LG 77inch upscales from HD really well, so no issue there.

The size you buy might more be driven by how you want it to look in the room you're putting it in, and whether it's for general viewing - news and normal TV stuff - or films, sport, things you want to be more immersive.

TLDR:
OLED is significantly better than LED tech
77inch 4k has really short viewing distance
OLED can be blindingly bright
The size you get depends on how it will look in your room and what you use it for.

redrabbit29

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1,523 posts

136 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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number2 said:
OLED is notably better, but as cardboard alluded to, will you care?

OLEDs are as bright as you'll ever need, don't fall for the myth they're not.

3m from a 77inch 4k TV is nothing like too close, any further and you lose the benefit anyway. Not that you'll want to but you can get surprisingly close and still see a great picture.

The LG 77inch upscales from HD really well, so no issue there.

The size you buy might more be driven by how you want it to look in the room you're putting it in, and whether it's for general viewing - news and normal TV stuff - or films, sport, things you want to be more immersive.

TLDR:
OLED is significantly better than LED tech
77inch 4k has really short viewing distance
OLED can be blindingly bright
The size you get depends on how it will look in your room and what you use it for.
Thanks, that is very helpful.

Just reading up on this and it says: "QLED comes out on top on paper, delivering a higher brightness, longer life span, lower price tags, and no risk of burn-in. OLED, on the other hand, has a better viewing angle, deeper black levels, uses less power, is killer for gaming, and might be better for your health"

However, I do know the Samsung is probably a lower end model. I don't mind spending the money as it's part of a big upgrade for the whole room. I'd rather do it right than be annoyed that I didn't do it as well as I could have

dickymint

24,959 posts

261 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
Because there is no 8K content, nor is there ever likely to be. For 8K, see 3D.....
Yep also 'Laser Vision' discs and even earlier 'Quadrophonic' LP's' Bad analogies though in particular 3D which in my view was never going to work in the home with everybody having to watch with glasses on. I'd wager 8K will be readily available within 5 years.

Anyhow as i said it was just a bonus to have it as my prime reason for Samsung was Q Symphony and Atmos audio.

Shiv_P

2,833 posts

108 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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OP have you considered a B2/B3 LG 77inch to save a few quid?

We currently have a C1 77inch, very happy, it is in about as bright a room as you can get as well

redrabbit29

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1,523 posts

136 months

Sunday 28th May 2023
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Shiv_P said:
OP have you considered a B2/B3 LG 77inch to save a few quid?

We currently have a C1 77inch, very happy, it is in about as bright a room as you can get as well
Good suggestion. I've looked at both and not decided on either one. I need to look again as I think the B series may have fewer hdmi 2.1 ports or similar. It won't impact me initially but I just want to future proof it in case my circumstances change


Shiv_P

2,833 posts

108 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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redrabbit29 said:
Shiv_P said:
OP have you considered a B2/B3 LG 77inch to save a few quid?

We currently have a C1 77inch, very happy, it is in about as bright a room as you can get as well
Good suggestion. I've looked at both and not decided on either one. I need to look again as I think the B series may have fewer hdmi 2.1 ports or similar. It won't impact me initially but I just want to future proof it in case my circumstances change
It'll have 2 HDMI 2.1 vs 4, 2 is plenty enough - short of a PS5/gaming PC, nothing requires HDMI 2.1 right now. Worst case you can add an AV receiver which will have 4/6/8 HDMI 2.1 inputs, and one HDMI 2.1 output to the TV.

blueg33

36,950 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st June 2023
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I feel like a dinosaur with my 36 inch Panasonic CRT TV. Its doesn't even have HDMI inputs rofl

conkerman

3,350 posts

138 months

Monday 5th June 2023
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dickymint said:
Yep also 'Laser Vision' discs and even earlier 'Quadrophonic' LP's' Bad analogies though in particular 3D which in my view was never going to work in the home with everybody having to watch with glasses on. I'd wager 8K will be readily available within 5 years.

Anyhow as i said it was just a bonus to have it as my prime reason for Samsung was Q Symphony and Atmos audio.
I miss 3D. Awesome for gaming.

I suspect 8K will be a long time coming unless there is a MASSIVE change in compression technology.

I have OLED which is about 6 years old, it dies struggle in bright daylight, although it is perpendicular to a 13ft long window.

redrabbit29

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1,523 posts

136 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Thanks all for the advice.

In the end I got a 77" LG OLED (LG 77 Inch OLED77B26LA). This was originally £2700 but by chance I saw that two sites had reduced it to £2k so I snapped it up. I also got cashback of about £50 through topcashback.

The other thing I got was a Sonos ARC soundbar too

number2

4,374 posts

190 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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redrabbit29 said:
Thanks all for the advice.

In the end I got a 77" LG OLED (LG 77 Inch OLED77B26LA). This was originally £2700 but by chance I saw that two sites had reduced it to £2k so I snapped it up. I also got cashback of about £50 through topcashback.

The other thing I got was a Sonos ARC soundbar too
You won't be disappointed with that.

I've a similar setup, the TV is excellent.

dundarach

5,199 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Only you truly know what you'd be happy with.

If you can afford it, buy the best, you're clearly interested and looking in this range.

If price will annoy you, buy the cheaper one.

To me, decisions like this are the same as the audiophile bullst threads.

I mostly watch youtube via a media pc on a £400 42" panasonic, it's lovely and fills my spot.

I never ever watch football as I'd rather eat my own feet, however if you do and that's your thing, buy the best experience you can afford and enjoy it!!


redrabbit29

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136 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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number2 said:
You won't be disappointed with that.

I've a similar setup, the TV is excellent.
Thanks! It arrives today between 2-4pm :-D

Will wait a few weeks before using it as we want to get the building work done first

dundarach said:
Only you truly know what you'd be happy with.

If you can afford it, buy the best, you're clearly interested and looking in this range.

If price will annoy you, buy the cheaper one.

To me, decisions like this are the same as the audiophile bullst threads.

I mostly watch youtube via a media pc on a £400 42" panasonic, it's lovely and fills my spot.

I never ever watch football as I'd rather eat my own feet, however if you do and that's your thing, buy the best experience you can afford and enjoy it!!
You're spot on there I think. The range of opinions is funny.

One person here saying £2k for a TV?!! But would probably happily spend £2k on something car related that others think is nuts. There's things I wouldn't pay more than the basic amount for - like clothes generally - but other things I will pay a premium for