CD/DVD player connections

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RSstuff

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396 posts

18 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Is it unusual for these players to have an HDMI and optical output? My Panasonic TV has an HDMI connection, my Cambridge amp optical. I expect there's a way around this, but I'd like to get the best quality connection to the amp, when playing music.

Griffith4ever

4,454 posts

38 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Was pretty standard, to have both. Allows you to get the sound into a non-AV (or AV with no HDMI) amp, and then the picture to the TV.

Remember, even high end AV Amps didn't have video switching for ages. Not really until HDMI became commonplace.

RSstuff

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396 posts

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Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Most of the decent used players I see only have HDMI.

Griffith4ever

4,454 posts

38 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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I think you missed a small window with DVD players.

Older = SCART and Tslink - no other way to get the digital audio out
Newer = HDMI and Toslink - cross over period. They must have existed?
Newest = HDMI - everyone wants HDMI only now.

RSstuff

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396 posts

18 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Griffith4ever said:
I think you missed a small window with DVD players.

Older = SCART and Tslink - no other way to get the digital audio out
Newer = HDMI and Toslink - cross over period. They must have existed?
Newest = HDMI - everyone wants HDMI only now.
When was the crossover period though?

Griffith4ever

4,454 posts

38 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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You need to find that out, not me.

TEKNOPUG

19,184 posts

208 months

Tuesday 6th June 2023
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Loads of players have HDMI with dedicated analogue audio outputs.

Lucid_AV

434 posts

39 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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RSstuff said:
Is it unusual for these players to have an HDMI and optical output? My Panasonic TV has an HDMI connection, my Cambridge amp optical. I expect there's a way around this, but I'd like to get the best quality connection to the amp, when playing music.
If you want the best sound quality from music CDs, then you should really be running a dedicated CD player. However, there are DVD players (not Blu-ray, just DVD) starting at £40 with digital coaxial out. Have a look at Sony. All players are backwards compatible back down to CD level, and so these will play CDs too.

If you want to add Blu-ray capability then you'll need to be forking out £150+

RSstuff

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396 posts

18 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Lucid_AV said:
If you want the best sound quality from music CDs, then you should really be running a dedicated CD player. However, there are DVD players (not Blu-ray, just DVD) starting at £40 with digital coaxial out. Have a look at Sony. All players are backwards compatible back down to CD level, and so these will play CDs too.
Thanks,
Just the occasional CD, and very infrequent DVD probably.

OutInTheShed

8,263 posts

29 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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I've got a cheap old Philips DVD player, the audio DAC in it is surprisingly good.

I'd consider spending money on the speakers, then the amp before spending a lot on a video player..

Lucid_AV

434 posts

39 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
I've got a cheap old Philips DVD player, the audio DAC in it is surprisingly good.

I'd consider spending money on the speakers, then the amp before spending a lot on a video player..
He already has decent speakers - Mission floorstanders, I think - and recently spent money on a decent amp; a Cambridge Audio AXR100. Despite a decent amp and speakers, the main music source being used is YouTube.

TEKNOPUG

19,184 posts

208 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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Surely the TV has an optical out? DVD to TV via HDMI, TV to Amp via optical.

Grumps.

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39 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
I've got a cheap old Philips DVD player, the audio DAC in it is surprisingly good.

I'd consider spending money on the speakers, then the amp before spending a lot on a video player..
Whilst that is sometimes the case, it should be source first.

Rubbish in, rubbish out.

RSstuff

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396 posts

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Wednesday 7th June 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
Surely the TV has an optical out? DVD to TV via HDMI, TV to Amp via optical.
Best diirect connection to the amp when playing CD's is what I'd like.

OutInTheShed

8,263 posts

29 months

Wednesday 7th June 2023
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For £10.53 on ebay, you can get an HDMI audio extractor with analogue and SPDIF outputs.
Would that work with Richer's cheapest LG DVD/Bluray player with HDMI out only?

Some players have USB sockets for stored media, is it possible to connect a USB DAC?

Panasonic DP-UB450 video gramophone thing has coaxial PCM audio out as well as a second HDMI socket which is 'audio only'.
£199 from the nice Mr Richer.

Likewise Sony UBP-X700 for a few more squids.

TEKNOPUG

19,184 posts

208 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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https://www.currys.co.uk/products/sony-dvpsr760hb-...

£39.99 CD/DVD player with Digital out.

Literally the first one Currys website.

GravelBen

15,793 posts

233 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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RSstuff said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Surely the TV has an optical out? DVD to TV via HDMI, TV to Amp via optical.
Best diirect connection to the amp when playing CD's is what I'd like.
The signal is staying digital until it reaches the amp and then being converted to analog by the amp's DAC, so in theory it shouldn't make any difference whether it goes through the TV or not. It might be annoying having to turn the TV on to listen to music though.

As others have said it shouldn't be that hard to find a DVD player with optical or coax output as well as HDMI.

OutInTheShed

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29 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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TEKNOPUG said:
https://www.currys.co.uk/products/sony-dvpsr760hb-...

£39.99 CD/DVD player with Digital out.

Literally the first one Currys website.
That seems very tempting.
Unless the transport is horribly noisy or something, what's the point of buying an 'audio CD transport?
These days, the DA C in it probably can't be all that bad either?

RSstuff

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396 posts

18 months

Saturday 10th June 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
That seems very tempting.
Unless the transport is horribly noisy or something, what's the point of buying an 'audio CD transport?
These days, the DA C in it probably can't be all that bad either?
Call me cynical, but how good would something that probably cost a tenner to make be?

TEKNOPUG

19,184 posts

208 months