Idris Elba - King of Speed
Discussion
Yes snidey. Quite a few guilty on the thread.
Is it the fault of the talent or his/her agent or the commissioning editors or whoever is responsible.
He may not be a petrolgeek but he is interested at his own level and in his own way. Anyone who can't accept that comes across as inflicted with something, possibly jealousy.
Think how bad it could have been by comparing his interest and ability with the Great British Drives series presented by Richard Wilson. The premise of the programme was great. Classic roads and touring routes to be driven in a series of classic cars. So they pick some old geezer who can only just about manage an automatic gearbox. No chance with old non synchro manuals.
Compared to that Idris is a driving god.
So yes snidey.
Is it the fault of the talent or his/her agent or the commissioning editors or whoever is responsible.
He may not be a petrolgeek but he is interested at his own level and in his own way. Anyone who can't accept that comes across as inflicted with something, possibly jealousy.
Think how bad it could have been by comparing his interest and ability with the Great British Drives series presented by Richard Wilson. The premise of the programme was great. Classic roads and touring routes to be driven in a series of classic cars. So they pick some old geezer who can only just about manage an automatic gearbox. No chance with old non synchro manuals.
Compared to that Idris is a driving god.
So yes snidey.
FiF said:
Yes snidey. Quite a few guilty on the thread.
Is it the fault of the talent or his/her agent or the commissioning editors or whoever is responsible.
He may not be a petrolgeek but he is interested at his own level and in his own way. Anyone who can't accept that comes across as inflicted with something, possibly jealousy.
I had a Saturday job in a plant nurseries at 16 and I own a garden that I have barbecues in and occasionally mow and prune. If I was also a famous actor would I be presenting "Gardeners' World" or "Gardeners' Question Time"?Is it the fault of the talent or his/her agent or the commissioning editors or whoever is responsible.
He may not be a petrolgeek but he is interested at his own level and in his own way. Anyone who can't accept that comes across as inflicted with something, possibly jealousy.
FiF said:
Yes snidey. Quite a few guilty on the thread.
Is it the fault of the talent or his/her agent or the commissioning editors or whoever is responsible.
He may not be a petrolgeek but he is interested at his own level and in his own way. Anyone who can't accept that comes across as inflicted with something, possibly jealousy.
Think how bad it could have been by comparing his interest and ability with the Great British Drives series presented by Richard Wilson. The premise of the programme was great. Classic roads and touring routes to be driven in a series of classic cars. So they pick some old geezer who can only just about manage an automatic gearbox. No chance with old non synchro manuals.
Compared to that Idris is a driving god.
So yes snidey.
Exactly! Or you might substitute:Is it the fault of the talent or his/her agent or the commissioning editors or whoever is responsible.
He may not be a petrolgeek but he is interested at his own level and in his own way. Anyone who can't accept that comes across as inflicted with something, possibly jealousy.
Think how bad it could have been by comparing his interest and ability with the Great British Drives series presented by Richard Wilson. The premise of the programme was great. Classic roads and touring routes to be driven in a series of classic cars. So they pick some old geezer who can only just about manage an automatic gearbox. No chance with old non synchro manuals.
Compared to that Idris is a driving god.
So yes snidey.
Miserable
Unappreciative
Anal
Envious
Pedantic
Unnecessary
Know it all
Pathetic
Sad
So, typical really. No wonder Top Gear gets such a pasting on here. Do yourselves a favour, sell your common people box and embrace time with your noses stuck in your Haynes Manual collection!
It's entertainment! It wasn't dumbed down, just car geeks/snobs will always moan because there's a need for a mainstream programme like that to appeal to a broad range of people. Not just the sort of blokes who look down at you because you can't name every engine code of the mk2 Corsa.
Riley Blue said:
Once again on PH the name calling starts and all because some had the temerity to criticise a TV programme in a topic in the TV, Film & Radio section of the site.
Once again on PH the self pitying whining starts and all because some had the temerity to criticise posters in a topic in the TV, Film & Radio section of the site.gwm said:
Not just the sort of blokes who look down at you because you can't name every engine code of the mk2 Corsa.
Not at all. I don't care for that sort of thing either.It was, overall, quite enjoyable.
tbc said:
He kept harking back to his 'tough days in Landan ,innit'
He was clearly spoofing a bit but it added to the show....
...Apart from Idris being all 'GANGSTA' i enjoyed it
Spoofing or trying a bit too hard? He was more convincing as an intelligent, articulate major player in a Baltimore drug gang! I think he's been an actor for a long time (and done some good work), and probably did the other jobs on the side.He was clearly spoofing a bit but it added to the show....
...Apart from Idris being all 'GANGSTA' i enjoyed it
He's apparently quite big in the DJ/music/club world, and did some programmes on it recently. Which is fair enough, really. I have no interest in those things though.
gwm said:
That Metro Rally Car looked like the grim reaper on wheels
Hell, yeah!Both programs were a good watch - the Nascar car ripping through the American town streets was the highlight of episode one, Ari stole the show in episode 2. Ari's son should have called that session in when Idris was out of control, but he was probably under orders not to, as keeping Idris on the small track would not have made for good tv. A shame, as that crash was predictable and avoidable. I liked the part where he said "the car had a mind of it's own" - I doubt you'd ever hear a proper rally driver say that, and while Ari smiled I'm sure he's heard the same excuses a hundred times.
Still, it was enjoyable enough, though the bit in the Veyron with the Khan bloke (presumably owner of the tasteless car modifiers "Project Khan" was a bit naff - since when have Veyrons had V16 engines? And the Khan bloke kept talking about "Pininfarini". And driving a Veyron through the city centre of London as a means of talking about the former fastest car in the world seemed a bit daft, but I suppose that Khan made the offer and they thought it would fill some time.
Still, it was enjoyable enough, though the bit in the Veyron with the Khan bloke (presumably owner of the tasteless car modifiers "Project Khan" was a bit naff - since when have Veyrons had V16 engines? And the Khan bloke kept talking about "Pininfarini". And driving a Veyron through the city centre of London as a means of talking about the former fastest car in the world seemed a bit daft, but I suppose that Khan made the offer and they thought it would fill some time.
HD Adam said:
GC8 said:
Difficult since the New World Order. No hotel means little chance of getting past the Homeland Security STASI.
Sorry, absolute cobblers.If you are filling in the ESTA or the airline wants to have the info, just put down any hotel address in the city you are arriving in or if in an RV, the name of the first camp site you will stop at.
With a face like yours I'd expect you to have spent more time developing your personality!
Good day.
Eric Mc said:
northwest monkey said:
Only seen the first episode & I quite enjoyed it to be honest. He came across as a bloke that likes cars rather than a bloke that can bore about cars.
Sorry - but did you mean to say "someone who is knowledgeable and interesting" about cars?I really hate when people dismiss knowledge as "boring". No wonder TV wants to dumb things down repeatedly with attitudes like that.
I haven't dismissed knowledge as "boring" - I hate the "dumbing down" seen a lot on TV - but I don't necessarily want it rammed down my throat all the time. The chap on Discovery who has built the MG, E-type, Helicopter, Caterham (?) etc seems very knowledgeable and interesting but that's a completely different show - he wouldn't be someone I'd pick to present a programme like the King of Speed.
Thought it was an OK show, despite a few cringe worthy moment when Idris was trying to play off being one of the lads.
There was a fair bit of nonsense on there too. That yellow Malibu isn't a street racer. The owner may claim it is, but he knew full well there wouldn't be a race to back it up. That whole segment was nothing more than trash talking anyway.
As for what does Idris drive?. My guess is a Toyota of some sort going by his Toyota Advert and the choice of a Camry race car as the highlight of the first show.
http://youtu.be/3j5XWJM_FIY
There was a fair bit of nonsense on there too. That yellow Malibu isn't a street racer. The owner may claim it is, but he knew full well there wouldn't be a race to back it up. That whole segment was nothing more than trash talking anyway.
As for what does Idris drive?. My guess is a Toyota of some sort going by his Toyota Advert and the choice of a Camry race car as the highlight of the first show.
http://youtu.be/3j5XWJM_FIY
northwest monkey said:
No, I meant boring. Nothing worse than a car bore and by that I mean people who get anal about trivial details nobody cares about other than them. There is a time and a place for people like that & in the right time and place I agree they can be "knowledgeable and interesting", but the Idris Elba show was an entertainment show rather like Top Gear.
I haven't dismissed knowledge as "boring" - I hate the "dumbing down" seen a lot on TV - but I don't necessarily want it rammed down my throat all the time. The chap on Discovery who has built the MG, E-type, Helicopter, Caterham (?) etc seems very knowledgeable and interesting but that's a completely different show - he wouldn't be someone I'd pick to present a programme like the King of Speed.
Right - so you wouldn't have minded if he had shown a LITTLE more knowledge of the cars etc?I haven't dismissed knowledge as "boring" - I hate the "dumbing down" seen a lot on TV - but I don't necessarily want it rammed down my throat all the time. The chap on Discovery who has built the MG, E-type, Helicopter, Caterham (?) etc seems very knowledgeable and interesting but that's a completely different show - he wouldn't be someone I'd pick to present a programme like the King of Speed.
To be honest, I can't recall ANY car related TV programme where I have found knowledge being imparted boring. I have certainly seen FAR more TV programmes where the lack of knowledge on display has been extremely annoying - especially if it is misleading.
These two programmes were actually OK so I am not complaining about them at all. But I certainly will not moan about a programme that tells me knew things. There are far too few such programmes about.
Mastodon2 said:
since when have Veyrons had V16 engines?
It's a small point but it's only a piece of marketing calling a staggered inline 6 a V6, leading to a V16 being called a W16. The Veyron engine only has two banks and there are only 2 cams per bank.It's clever but not as clever as the 3 bank W18 of the Veyron's prototype, although I'm more inclined to call that a Y18 based on the configuration of the banks.
GC8 said:
HD Adam said:
GC8 said:
Difficult since the New World Order. No hotel means little chance of getting past the Homeland Security STASI.
Sorry, absolute cobblers.If you are filling in the ESTA or the airline wants to have the info, just put down any hotel address in the city you are arriving in or if in an RV, the name of the first camp site you will stop at.
With a face like yours I'd expect you to have spent more time developing your personality!
Good day.
Part of my personality is if your talking out of your arse, I'll tell you.
If you want things sugar coating, Mumsnet is that way ->
Good day to you too, Sir
Eviltad said:
Carpark roof top was definitely Central Liverpool so would make sense if Pre-VT was local.
I enjoyed both shows. Was surprised the 22inch wheeled yellow thing was quickest, but is that "King of Streets" had the unbeaten record to back it up then, who am I to argue? And the 7 Million quid Veyron.....really? Kahn car is here.... http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b... and I would assume the shiny bits are now matte black using the power of a wrap.
Haha, Kahn himself said in the programme it was 'worth' £1.2m, it's up for sale in the ad for £800k. The ad says it's a "Very Rare Vehicle Which Will Only Appreciate In Value" (sic).I enjoyed both shows. Was surprised the 22inch wheeled yellow thing was quickest, but is that "King of Streets" had the unbeaten record to back it up then, who am I to argue? And the 7 Million quid Veyron.....really? Kahn car is here.... http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b... and I would assume the shiny bits are now matte black using the power of a wrap.
It's not appreciating very well at the moment is it? I make that a £400k LOSS already - will Veyron values suddenly rocket? An investment in an Enzo a few years back would have yielded some fantastic returns (I think they were what, £400k new, currently changing hands for double that and more...). Can't see a Veyron doing quite the same thing. They're an engineering masterpiece but they lack flair, passion and soul. There are hundreds of cars I'd rather own for the same money as a new Veyron.
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