BBC Top Gear 2019 Thread

BBC Top Gear 2019 Thread

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La Liga

13,470 posts

100 months

Wednesday 17th July
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I think the series and line-up beat most peoples' expectations (including mine).

Always skip the celebrity bit still.

cerb4.5lee

12,176 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Adam B said:
New Supra looked great on outside and my usual reason for never buying Jap cars (cheap plasticky interiors) is solved by nicking a BMW one
I looked around one at Donington on Sunday and I really liked the way it looked outside, but the interior was as bland as bland can be for me(typical Jap/mid 2000's BMW in many ways). Toyota look like they haven't even tried with the interior.

Even so I'd still love one with a manual gearbox...so I hope Toyota make one for sure.

SPD14

377 posts

100 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Just finished watching the latest series and found it way above my admittedly low expectations! I actually laughed at some of the skits, which is something that's not happened when watching TG for quite some time.

bony_13

161 posts

41 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Keeping in mind that it is of course fully staged and scripted, I thought the Supra piece and studio discussion was actually very in touch with PH and other forums - it captured this arguments nicely.

Positives (Paddy): 'Be grateful for the BMW/Toyota collaboration, otherwise this new sports car would not exist. It's a good car'.
Naysayers (Harris): 'Yes but it's just not a Toyota Supra. Its a bit bland boring and looks like any other BMW inside'.
Neutral (Fred): 'If you like it then buy it, if don't then leave it'.

simonrockman

5,799 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th July
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Yup, enjoyed that series. The Lotus 79 piece was excellent.

I always assumed that the SIARPC was a Clarkson affectation: he wanted to meet the celebs. It now seems that someone, somewhere actually thinks it's a good idea.

robemcdonald

4,240 posts

140 months

Wednesday 17th July
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simonrockman said:
Yup, enjoyed that series. The Lotus 79 piece was excellent.

I always assumed that the SIARPC was a Clarkson affectation: he wanted to meet the celebs. It now seems that someone, somewhere actually thinks it's a good idea.
Star in a car is cheap content. Take that away and they have another 10 minutes to think of something for.

Grahamdub

2,871 posts

87 months

Wednesday 17th July
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robemcdonald said:
simonrockman said:
Yup, enjoyed that series. The Lotus 79 piece was excellent.

I always assumed that the SIARPC was a Clarkson affectation: he wanted to meet the celebs. It now seems that someone, somewhere actually thinks it's a good idea.
Star in a car is cheap content. Take that away and they have another 10 minutes to think of something for.
As others have said, it ideal for tea and toilet time. I also assume it's a bit of filler that can be chopped when the repeats are shown on Dave with adverts. I guess whatever the celeb is plugging will be long gone by the 127th repeat on Dave.

coldel

3,183 posts

90 months

Wednesday 17th July
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I guess you have to consider without the celeb bit whats the point in being in the audience? Without it, they would literally be there to see the guys say 'so we went off to Madagascar to find out' and 'hey that was good eh eh eh'

thegreenhell

6,027 posts

163 months

Wednesday 17th July
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coldel said:
I guess you have to consider without the celeb bit whats the point in being in the audience? Without it, they would literally be there to see the guys say 'so we went off to Madagascar to find out' and 'hey that was good eh eh eh'
Even in the CHM era, and in TGT as well, there have been several episodes where that has happened. It's entirely possible though that they do that on the back of shooting another episode so the audience do get to see more than just an intro and a goodbye.

Shakermaker

9,386 posts

44 months

Thursday 18th July
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thegreenhell said:
Even in the CHM era, and in TGT as well, there have been several episodes where that has happened. It's entirely possible though that they do that on the back of shooting another episode so the audience do get to see more than just an intro and a goodbye.
Yes, that's what has happened indeed, a change of outfit and a couple of extra intros/outros filmed

skinny

4,747 posts

179 months

Thursday 18th July
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Not a fan of PMG but actually didn't find him completely objectionable in this. He brings a bit of the everyday man to the show (whereas CH doesn't really seem to bat an eyelid at 200+k cars)
FF weakest link, a little wooden and awkward but might improve for the next series.
On cars, what's going on with the latest BMW's? They look horrendous with that whacking great snout stuck on the front. It's a shame as the last gen were looking really nice

Truckosaurus

7,104 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th July
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skinny said:
....On cars, what's going on with the latest BMW's? ...
Aren't the massive grilles only on the 7-series and X7 which are aimed at the American and Chinese markets who both love lots of chrome and 'bigger is better'?

Nik da Greek

2,437 posts

94 months

Thursday 18th July
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Truckosaurus said:
skinny said:
....On cars, what's going on with the latest BMW's? ...
Aren't the massive grilles only on the 7-series and X7 which are aimed at the American and Chinese markets who both love lots of chrome and 'bigger is better'?
errr. no



vomit

Looks like an MX-5-based Fiat 124 that's having an allergic reaction rolleyes I've never especially "got" BMWs but at least they had their own look. Now they look like every other plastic monstrosity* on the road.... only uglier

*When I first saw one I thought "Hyundai have done a sportster?"

DonkeyApple

34,060 posts

113 months

Thursday 18th July
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Grahamdub said:
robemcdonald said:
simonrockman said:
Yup, enjoyed that series. The Lotus 79 piece was excellent.

I always assumed that the SIARPC was a Clarkson affectation: he wanted to meet the celebs. It now seems that someone, somewhere actually thinks it's a good idea.
Star in a car is cheap content. Take that away and they have another 10 minutes to think of something for.
As others have said, it ideal for tea and toilet time. I also assume it's a bit of filler that can be chopped when the repeats are shown on Dave with adverts. I guess whatever the celeb is plugging will be long gone by the 127th repeat on Dave.
It’s also the bit that has to be chopped out when selling abroad. It’s basically a bit of filler purely for the domestic market.

Dr Interceptor

5,458 posts

140 months

Thursday 18th July
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DonkeyApple said:
Grahamdub said:
robemcdonald said:
simonrockman said:
Yup, enjoyed that series. The Lotus 79 piece was excellent.

I always assumed that the SIARPC was a Clarkson affectation: he wanted to meet the celebs. It now seems that someone, somewhere actually thinks it's a good idea.
Star in a car is cheap content. Take that away and they have another 10 minutes to think of something for.
As others have said, it ideal for tea and toilet time. I also assume it's a bit of filler that can be chopped when the repeats are shown on Dave with adverts. I guess whatever the celeb is plugging will be long gone by the 127th repeat on Dave.
It’s also the bit that has to be chopped out when selling abroad. It’s basically a bit of filler purely for the domestic market.
Exactly... Chop that bit out and chuck in a couple of ad breaks to make up the length..

Dog Star

10,350 posts

112 months

Thursday 18th July
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Strangely I think the BBC might have got it right with this oddball lineup, something I’d not have believed when they announced it.

I’d agree that FF started off with a bit of a wooden delivery, but he seems to be loosening up - take a look at some old Top Gears and Clarkson for some equally wooden performances.

Harris I really do like now, he’s a really good presenter and knows his stuff.

I think they’ll get better and better as this series goes on. Good luck to them.

98elise

14,622 posts

105 months

Thursday 18th July
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Audience figures are stronger, and have been pretty stable for the series.

The last line up was getting ever lower figures each season.

Europa1

8,624 posts

132 months

Thursday 18th July
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Dog Star said:
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I think they’ll get better and better as this series goes on.
This series has ended. wink

Dog Star

10,350 posts

112 months

Thursday 18th July
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Europa1 said:
This series has ended. wink
Ah, has it! I’ve not seen past Will Young on Sunday - the tennis overran and the TiVo consequently missed it passed that point, and I’ve not got round to iPlayer yet.

Johnspex

1,795 posts

128 months

Friday 19th July
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bony_13 said:
Keeping in mind that it is of course fully staged and scripted, I thought the Supra piece and studio discussion was actually very in touch with PH and other forums - it captured this arguments nicely.

Positives (Paddy): 'Be grateful for the BMW/Toyota collaboration, otherwise this new sports car would not exist. It's a good car'.
Naysayers (Harris): 'Yes but it's just not a Toyota Supra. Its a bit bland boring and looks like any other BMW inside'.
Neutral (Fred): 'If you like it then buy it, if don't then leave it'.
What evidence do you have of that?
Fully scripted? The opinions expressed in the car reviews are not the presenters' but somebody else? Who is that? I assume you're suggesting this has always been the case and that any opinion expressed in all the TG series were not those of the stars. Someone told Clarkson what to say about a particular car? Even the famous Aston Martin piece?

Go on, tell us exactly how you know all this.