Chernobyl (HBO Mini Series)

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wombleh

2,071 posts

137 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Saw some comments that the series representation of Dyatlov was way off, apparently the INSAG7 report paints a very different picture of his part in it.

Durzel

12,745 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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wombleh said:
Saw some comments that the series representation of Dyatlov was way off, apparently the INSAG7 report paints a very different picture of his part in it.
Although I think this show is pretty much a work of art, since watching it I have read similar comments and ended up feeling that Dyatlov was probably portrayed a little too on the nose in terms of out-and-out belligerence during the event, rather than simply naked ambition.

Gilhooligan

2,220 posts

159 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Durzel said:
wombleh said:
Saw some comments that the series representation of Dyatlov was way off, apparently the INSAG7 report paints a very different picture of his part in it.
Although I think this show is pretty much a work of art, since watching it I have read similar comments and ended up feeling that Dyatlov was probably portrayed a little too on the nose in terms of out-and-out belligerence during the event, rather than simply naked ambition.
The bit where they claimed a 5 megaton steam explosion would happen if the corium made it into the flooded basement was also a let down. Great series overall though.

The Ben Fogle programme was decent enough. It would have been interesting to see more of the inside of the NSC.

21st Century Man

42,324 posts

263 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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pidsy said:
Channel 5 now.

Ben fogle goes to the zone. Some interesting bits so far but Ben is an awful presenter for the subject.
I bailed after a few minutes, there was a clip of the woodpecker array early on and instead of simply saying what it was built for they just went off on one of those conspiracy theory "believed to be a mind control experiment" bullocks. There was no coming back after that for me, programme ruined, I hit the remote.

jtremlett

1,517 posts

237 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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21st Century Man said:
I bailed after a few minutes, there was a clip of the woodpecker array early on and instead of simply saying what it was built for they just went off on one of those conspiracy theory "believed to be a mind control experiment" bullocks. There was no coming back after that for me, programme ruined, I hit the remote.
That's a bit strange because although they did mention mind control it was immediately laughed off and it was explained what it was for.

I thought the Fogle programme was pretty good actually. He was okay but it was really about the footage inside the restricted zone and the power station itself. A few snippets of archive footage too that were interesting, having seen the HBO series.

21st Century Man

42,324 posts

263 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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I was probably too hasty. I've got a low tolerance threshold with so much of this sort of thing on these sorts of programmes. Abandoned Engineering is only a whisker away from the same aliens that built the pyramids and sank the Titanic. I just had that vibe.

nuts

200Plus Club

11,939 posts

293 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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It was watchable. Crazy that people want to climb all over the area doing stunts and suchlike.

Sir Bagalot

6,772 posts

196 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Made me laugh how he was wearing a mask (i'd want some full on filtered job rather than one that appeared to have come from screwfix) yet left his eyes unprotected to any dust.

I'd love to go there and look at all the areas he did, but there isn't a hope in hell that I would.

Crazy that so much stuff was stolen from site over the years.

zb

3,261 posts

179 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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pidsy said:
Channel 5 now.

Ben fogle goes to the zone. Some interesting bits so far but Ben is an awful presenter for the subject.
Not great, not terrible.

pidsy

8,410 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Sir Bagalot said:
Made me laugh how he was wearing a mask (i'd want some full on filtered job rather than one that appeared to have come from screwfix) yet left his eyes unprotected to any dust.

I'd love to go there and look at all the areas he did, but there isn't a hope in hell that I would.

Crazy that so much stuff was stolen from site over the years.
You should go.
Quite a few of us have been - including some who worked or continue to work out there.
I found it a very moving experience.

llewop

3,781 posts

226 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Gilhooligan said:
The bit where they claimed a 5 megaton steam explosion would happen if the corium made it into the flooded basement was also a let down. Great series overall though.

The Ben Fogle programme was decent enough. It would have been interesting to see more of the inside of the NSC.
Not video, although might be able to find some if poke around enough, pictures from EBRD of inside NSC + during build

EBRD album

and main page on the project and other work on site
EBRD Chernobyl NSC main page

waynecyclist

11,903 posts

129 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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zb said:
pidsy said:
Channel 5 now.

Ben fogle goes to the zone. Some interesting bits so far but Ben is an awful presenter for the subject.
Not great, not terrible.
Agreed it was watchable and interesting.

Scary to see the particles in the air under the torch beam.

Would love to visit one day.

Clockwork Cupcake

77,856 posts

287 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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zb said:
Not great, not terrible.
hehe

Harfi88

465 posts

77 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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llewop said:
Not video, although might be able to find some if poke around enough, pictures from EBRD of inside NSC + during build

EBRD album

and main page on the project and other work on site
EBRD Chernobyl NSC main page
Fantastic photos, thanks for sharing are they yours ?

llewop

3,781 posts

226 months

Thursday 4th March 2021
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Harfi88 said:
Fantastic photos, thanks for sharing are they yours ?
No, a lot of them from after I left, but I worked on the NSC project for 4-5 years.

Megaflow

10,379 posts

240 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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llewop said:
Harfi88 said:
Fantastic photos, thanks for sharing are they yours ?
No, a lot of them from after I left, but I worked on the NSC project for 4-5 years.
It creeps me out slightly, that’s the only way I can describe it, seeing the old sarcophagus is now inside a building.

Do you know when they plan to start dismantling the old one?

llewop

3,781 posts

226 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Megaflow said:
It creeps me out slightly, that’s the only way I can describe it, seeing the old sarcophagus is now inside a building.

Do you know when they plan to start dismantling the old one?
The scale is something else! All through planning and construction there were slideshows that suggested you could fit/fly an airliner under the arch it is that big!

The EBRD coordinated 'Chernobyl Shelter Fund' has apparently now completed/ended, so not just the NSC a whole load of other work on site. The NSC was commissioned in 2019 (so that would have been a formal contract milestone) and from what I can find they have started work with it, but mostly so far scanning the structure and testing things. I suspect a concern would be that the sarcophagus (known locally as the Object Shelter') might actually collapse in some way once you start taking it apart like a jenga stack. The big yellow structure by the west wall is to try and take the weight of the roof to stop it pushing the walls out...

link below to the ChNPP website has pictures and stuff and really is the horses mouth as they run the place.

https://chnpp.gov.ua/en/home

robwilk

818 posts

195 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Sir Bagalot said:
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Crazy that so much stuff was stolen from site over the years.
The way the instrumentation was stripped from the control room smacked me of using it as spares parts for the other reactor control rooms, some are easy to remove but others simply don't just pull out.
Perhaps when they said stolen they meant by the maintenance team

Crafty_

13,618 posts

215 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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robwilk said:
The way the instrumentation was stripped from the control room smacked me of using it as spares parts for the other reactor control rooms, some are easy to remove but others simply don't just pull out.
Perhaps when they said stolen they meant by the maintenance team
I'm sure I've seen somewhere that this is correct.

At least one control room can still power up, or could a few years ago https://youtu.be/tkE-fQO6Kuo


p1stonhead

27,663 posts

182 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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hehe