Senna - Netflix

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fttm

3,932 posts

144 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
It’s a Brazilian production. I guess they couldn’t afford to ship the crew and the cars to the Uk. Same with some of the details, a P plate mk1 escort is not a bad guess for a Brazilian production. Not sure if I would know the number plate styles in Rio for 1983
Had a P plate Mexico myself but on the other end . Small details aside I'm thoroughly enjoying it , bringing back memories of the great man , sadly missed . Wonder where he would be now ?

kuro

1,627 posts

128 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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daqinggregg said:
Where did they find the extras who filled the role of fans “Millwall supporters club”, I’ve got to say I’m struggling to suspend belief.
I had to back up and rewatch that ridiculous scene. Apart from that and the entire formula ford and F3 seasons seemingly being held on one track in mountainous Norfolk it's not too bad.

carl_w

9,647 posts

267 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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The bloke who plays Senna looks nothing like him but has got the accent pretty spot on. Same with the guy who plays Prost and the one who plays Hunt. The guy playing Ron Dennis is nothing like him though.

stinkyspanner

863 posts

86 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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I watched a bit more of this, it's still terrible but I'm seeing it through.. One thing I really can't get is the absolutely fantastic attention to detail on the cars, and racewear etc - it's all spot on, the liveries, the helmet types they've clearly spent a lot of time getting it right. Then they overdub the engine with someting from a totally different era in some shots and not others. And since when did 100cc karts have gears

smn159

13,577 posts

226 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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stinkyspanner said:
I watched a bit more of this, it's still terrible but I'm seeing it through.. One thing I really can't get is the absolutely fantastic attention to detail on the cars, and racewear etc - it's all spot on, the liveries, the helmet types they've clearly spent a lot of time getting it right. Then they overdub the engine with someting from a totally different era in some shots and not others. And since when did 100cc karts have gears
It's the 'drop a gear and floor it to overtake' that gets me.

coppice

8,995 posts

153 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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As, sadly, has been near compulsory in every racing film I can recall , except Grand Prix . But for a casual viewer it's easier to understand - to overtake on the road we go faster by changing down and accelerating past . Explaining that, actually . most overtaking in racing is done while braking is harder to portray.

BREMBOV6

514 posts

157 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Glad to hear it gets better. Netflix also have a behind the scenes. That brought me back to give it another try but agree the 'fans' scene was hilarous. Taps aff!

Not sure if it's our TV but the subtitles moving from the bottom of the screen to the top is frustrating.

Philip-38q0d

18 posts

102 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Bubbas Grill said:
I can forgive the glaring errors!

It definitely captures a mood and insight into a Man who was incredibly talented and passionate about both his craft and his Family.

Suspend your inner nerd and enjoy the fascinating key-points in the Life of one of the true Greats.

I remember exactly where I was when he crashed and exactly where I was when his death was confirmed. It'll never leave me.

Oddly enough, I was at Snetterton that day, and saw the crash on the TV in the bar.
This was before Norfolk County Council put the mountains in.

Smollet

12,170 posts

199 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Philip-38q0d said:
Bubbas Grill said:
I can forgive the glaring errors!

It definitely captures a mood and insight into a Man who was incredibly talented and passionate about both his craft and his Family.

Suspend your inner nerd and enjoy the fascinating key-points in the Life of one of the true Greats.

I remember exactly where I was when he crashed and exactly where I was when his death was confirmed. It'll never leave me.

Oddly enough, I was at Snetterton that day, and saw the crash on the TV in the bar.
This was before Norfolk County Council put the mountains in.
An inspired move employed to help the fledgling skiing industry found in the Broads.

bristolbaron

5,169 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Did they address his relationship with 15 year old Adriane Yamin? whistle

Downward

4,212 posts

112 months

Sunday 1st December 2024
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Yeah there are gaps and switching teams to those who maybe don’t know too much about his early career.
I mean it was 40 years ago

coppice

8,995 posts

153 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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I must have missed the baying bare chested Brundle massive . What the producers don't realise is that the tribalism which infects post DtS F1 was completely absent from F3. We were well used to watching - and applauding - winning foreign drivers in F3 as in those happy days UK F3 was the key stepping stone to F1. I'd already seen South American drivers like Pace and Piquet , Mansilla and Moreno et al in F3.

And since when did 1980s F3 cars rev to 8 and 9k ? 1 litre MAEs did but the 2litre Novamotor etc were strangled to much lower revs. And where is Ronnie Grant ?

vixen1700

24,769 posts

279 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Bubbas Grill said:
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I remember exactly where I was when he crashed and exactly where I was when his death was confirmed. It'll never leave me.

Yep, same here. Never really had any interest in F1 after that either.

As for this, watched the first one last night and despite all the cliches and the Norfolk mountain range, it's watchable enough, so will stick with it. smile

BoomerPride

4,023 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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I nearly pressed the off button when they showed the shirtless, teeth-baring "fans" clawing at the fence. That was just ridiculous. I don't like the way they represent many facets of our country. The downshifts to accelerate and sideways glares at speed wind me up too!

I might give it a little longer given the authenticity of the cars etc.

daqinggregg

3,544 posts

138 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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Many contributors have mentioned it improves after episode three, to some degree it does, because that’s when some of the more controversial decisions (Balestre, was a XXXX) occurred.

I understand the need to make such a documentary especially in Brazil, add to that the timing as many of those fans will soon start departing. It’s very much made for the home market.

Given the expense involved in making this kind of documentary, one can accept some of the shortcomings. However, I think they may have misjudged its wider appeal, it lacked research.

carl_w

9,647 posts

267 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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daqinggregg said:
Many contributors have mentioned it improves after episode three, to some degree it does, because that’s when some of the more controversial decisions (Balestre, was a XXXX) occurred.
I think the problem is that the best bits are bits we already have footage of, e.g. leaving the driver's briefing after Piquet says it's safer to cut the chicane, Prost saying "I sink I will be appy to leave McLaren because it becomes impossible to work with Ayrton", "the best decision is my decision"

carl_w

9,647 posts

267 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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There's a "Making of..." on Netflix. Looks like the non-racetrack "Norfolk" scenes were filmed in Derry. How they made the cars is interesting.

cuprabob

15,974 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd December 2024
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carl_w said:
There's a "Making of..." on Netflix. Looks like the non-racetrack "Norfolk" scenes were filmed in Derry. How they made the cars is interesting.
Just watched this, it was fascinating how it was made.

vixen1700

24,769 posts

279 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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BoomerPride said:
I nearly pressed the off button when they showed the shirtless, teeth-baring "fans" clawing at the fence. That was just ridiculous. I don't like the way they represent many facets of our country. The downshifts to accelerate and sideways glares at speed wind me up too!

I might give it a little longer given the authenticity of the cars etc.
Watched episode two with the fans last night and had no idea race fans were like Millwall supporters in a derby game with West Ham. Oh my! laugh

Just about to stick episide three on. smile



Edited by vixen1700 on Tuesday 3rd December 14:01

carl_w

9,647 posts

267 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2024
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cuprabob said:
Just watched this, it was fascinating how it was made.
Yes, pity they didn't use the green screen to paste some fens over the mountains