The Day of the Jackal: TV Series

The Day of the Jackal: TV Series

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CardinalBlue

1,062 posts

85 months

Friday 22nd November
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Bluevanman said:
Trash_panda said:
He wanted to buy a bar in town and asked the jackal for money/help/investment.

Guess he took the gun to be 'gangster' and it'll end in tears/coppers pull him ask questions etc etc
He didn't ask the jackal,he asked his wife and then stole a lot more,the jackal was watching on his phone
He asked The Jackal in an earlier episode, is what I assume he’s referring to?

Slightly off topic, but has Charles Dance been anything other than excellent in anything he’s ever been in?

lauda

3,675 posts

215 months

Friday 22nd November
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CardinalBlue said:
He asked The Jackal in an earlier episode, is what I assume he’s referring to?

Slightly off topic, but has Charles Dance been anything other than excellent in anything he’s ever been in?
I love it when they get him to read excerpts from Z-list celebrities’ autobiographies on The Big Fat Quiz of the Year. I’ve no idea how he keeps a straight face.

ghost83

5,559 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd November
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Whether the acting is wooden or not I’m really enjoying it and hope he lives!

I think he will find out where that Bianca lives and kill her (I’m thinking like Bruce Willis did to that copper in the jackal movie)

And I think he will probably go after her brother but his wife will be the one that eventually kills him!

I hope there’s a second series

BunkMoreland

1,088 posts

15 months

Saturday 23rd November
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bloomen said:
I think there'd be plenty more tension if he'd defused or slipped away from many of his capers.

But sometimes folk want blood I suppose.
That. He makes so many operational mistakes there's no way he'd have made it to a decent living earning loads per job!

It just grates as a plot device.

Dashnine said:
Have now started watching the Fox film again….

ETA: The water melon scene was a virtual facsimile of the original, location and actor apart - the face on the melon, the branch, a quick look behind, the knife to hold the bag, the pacing out and the rope to steady the barrel. Fantastic.
Some of the dialogue is straight from the film too "you pay me to get away" being one I picked up on.


I hate that tv companies cant just make 1 series and end it. They HAVE to drag a series out for 2 or more series, making it stter and stter. And lets be honest this hasnt exactly been stellar.

The plot holes are awful. When he first went into the roof to scope it out, (and ended up dangling!) he was looking straight down on the stage. Then when he actually gets into position to set up camp. Again he's looking straight down. But when it comes to the shot he's miles back and obscured by the glass!

ERGH! I'm going to stick it out to the end. Just to enjoy the cringe nature of it.

Not Ideal

2,951 posts

196 months

Sunday 24th November
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I’m really enjoying it.
Love all the nods to the book and original movie.

Jefferson Steelflex

1,500 posts

107 months

Sunday 24th November
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BunkMoreland said:
Some of the dialogue is straight from the film too "you pay me to get away" being one I picked up on.


I hate that tv companies cant just make 1 series and end it. They HAVE to drag a series out for 2 or more series, making it stter and stter. And lets be honest this hasnt exactly been stellar.

The plot holes are awful. When he first went into the roof to scope it out, (and ended up dangling!) he was looking straight down on the stage. Then when he actually gets into position to set up camp. Again he's looking straight down. But when it comes to the shot he's miles back and obscured by the glass!

ERGH! I'm going to stick it out to the end. Just to enjoy the cringe nature of it.
From what i worked out, he wanted the vantage point from directly above the stage but found the moving panels would be impractical, so set up a different vantage point after looking at the plans and then getting his new lover Rasmus to get him into the building to confirm a new location. Where he was sleeping was only so he could be in the building early and avoid security. .


Edited by Jefferson Steelflex on Sunday 24th November 20:15

OMITN

2,410 posts

100 months

Monday 25th November
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Well I was called out as a naysayer when I suggested it was pretty dreadful. Now several of you appear to agree with me..!

My role as Barry Norman is complete.

(FWIW we’ve continued watching, largely for a laugh. Though I have to say that episode 7 was finally reasonable in terms of pace and direction.)

uk66fastback

16,950 posts

279 months

Monday 25th November
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See, I’m finding this pretty good whereas my son suggested Mrs uk66 and I watch Prison Break - I managed the first episode …

OMITN

2,410 posts

100 months

Monday 25th November
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Well I was called out as a naysayer when I suggested it was pretty dreadful. Now several of you appear to agree with me..!

My role as Barry Norman is complete.

(FWIW we’ve continued watching, largely for a laugh. Though I have to say that episode 7 was finally reasonable in terms of pace and direction.)

skeeterm5

3,732 posts

196 months

Monday 25th November
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We are enjoying it for what it is as a story and it is very well shot. The best thing on TV at the moment.


MrOnTheRopes

1,475 posts

254 months

Monday 25th November
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uk66fastback said:
See, I’m finding this pretty good whereas my son suggested Mrs uk66 and I watch Prison Break - I managed the first episode …
Off-topic I know but it may be worth sticking with it. I remember being completely hooked on that. I did all of them but S01 was the best.

BunkMoreland

1,088 posts

15 months

Monday 25th November
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Jefferson Steelflex said:
From what i worked out, he wanted the vantage point from directly above the stage but found the moving panels would be impractical, so set up a different vantage point after looking at the plans and then getting his new lover Rasmus to get him into the building to confirm a new location. Where he was sleeping was only so he could be in the building early and avoid security. .
Perhaps.

But then the whole idea Jackal had to get this "tech bro" was to wait until he wandered out from behind the glass. Which if he WAS a trained amazing assassin is leaving far too much to chance. As we saw he didn't actually walk out beyond the protection (as would be the case in real life where the security would be really hot on that!) I mean I'm no international assassin. (Barely even national level wink ) But if Jackal had set off a bomb in the audience. Techbro would have naturally retreated from the glass. Or perhaps Jackal should have been working on ways to get TB on his island or when he's in transit. A good old fashioned car bomb would work. Or even as we've seen in Ukraine. Drones with explosives. Its all very well techbro security following him with their drone whilst he's swimming. But that drone has no ability to stop another,

And when it all kicked off unexpectedly, Jackals plan, presumably in the event of success, was to run away with the crowds with his baseball cap on. Which also left too much to chance in terms of if they'd locked the building down as they should have.

Plus where were the disguises? If he'd been in a disguise Rasmus wouldn't have recognised him. And the Police will now find that body, investigate it. Find he knew Jackal, and its all just too sloppy. Up to before the attempt. Rasmus would have thought Jackal just a one night stand who left the country. There was limited risk to Jackal.

(Yes, I realise I am overanalysing a tv series! biggrin )

dave123456

2,835 posts

155 months

Monday 25th November
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MrOnTheRopes said:
uk66fastback said:
See, I’m finding this pretty good whereas my son suggested Mrs uk66 and I watch Prison Break - I managed the first episode …
Off-topic I know but it may be worth sticking with it. I remember being completely hooked on that. I did all of them but S01 was the best.
Agreed

KittyLitter

1,113 posts

8 months

Monday 25th November
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Second series planned = planned from the get go, which means a cliffhanger in the last episode of Season 1.
With the gravitas of the female actress there is no way he’d kill her and his child, or rather the producers write her out of the next series.

The story will run on to be picked up this time next year.




Misanthroper

202 posts

40 months

Tuesday 26th November
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It’s pretty poor with major plot holes and head scratchers, lots of silly things he does for a so called top pro assassin.

For me, I’d have gained access to the theatre as he did and put a few small explosives under a seat near the front. Then I’d have worn a suit similar to what the security team was wearing. Hang around out front, remotely set off the explosives, and join onto the security team escorting the target out in all the confusion, and assassinate him then, lot less hassle.

Strangely I’ll keep watching it thought, I’ve not got much else to watch currently and I’ve got this far…

Mercdriver

2,657 posts

41 months

Tuesday 26th November
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I am just watching it for the entertainment, just ignore the holes in the plot. People are too critical and looking for faults.

bloomen

7,488 posts

167 months

Tuesday 26th November
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I like some fundamental sense for the sake of believing in the characters.

dave123456

2,835 posts

155 months

Tuesday 26th November
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Misanthroper said:
It’s pretty poor with major plot holes and head scratchers, lots of silly things he does for a so called top pro assassin.

For me, I’d have gained access to the theatre as he did and put a few small explosives under a seat near the front. Then I’d have worn a suit similar to what the security team was wearing. Hang around out front, remotely set off the explosives, and join onto the security team escorting the target out in all the confusion, and assassinate him then, lot less hassle.

Strangely I’ll keep watching it thought, I’ve not got much else to watch currently and I’ve got this far…
That sort of reads like maybe you’d like to think you could have been a top pro assassin…

BunkMoreland

1,088 posts

15 months

Tuesday 26th November
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Mercdriver said:
I am just watching it for the entertainment, just ignore the holes in the plot. People are too critical and looking for faults.
I think some of my problem is, in the modern era "Collateral" (Tom Cruise) is what I think a cold hearted pro assassin should be. At no point do we see "Vincent" (Collateral) having mini breakdowns or allowing people to take advantage of him.

Jackal is too in touch with his feelings (and awful scripted flashbacks) to fit with his cold ruthless killer. We never explore Vincents backstory really. He's almost certainly not married with a kid and a bunch of ttty in-laws. laugh That lack of "grounding" makes him all the more intriguing




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEFPcljAXgs





bloomen

7,488 posts

167 months

Tuesday 26th November
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An assassin with a family has some sort of motivation to make the giant score rather than being a killing machine simply because.

But this hasn't really done a very good job of straddling both parts of his life.

Not really sure how you'd do it fully convincingly.