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andy_s

19,408 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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He even wrote a book -



Look at him - NAZI!!


alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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andy_s said:
He even wrote a book -



Look at him - NAZI!!

"a gun came flying over a cliff, missing us by a few feet. This man appeared and said 'Has anyone seen a gun?' biggrin

irocfan

40,563 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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presumably, these twunts will avoid visiting Germany on the basis that Hitler authorised the Autobahnen? That would seem to follow the same logic path

Not-The-Messiah

3,620 posts

82 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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dandarez said:
saaby93 said:
JagLover said:
The university in question seems dangerously close to suggesting that all Germans of the period were evil. Rommel had the good fortune to be based in North Africa and so not involved in the war crimes committed by so many of his fellow Generals in Russia and as you say was involved in a plot to assassinate Hitler.

To use a quote by Rommel should be as uncontroversial as using a quote by Napoleon.
yes

yes

So much for the educated today, eh?
They should be called the petrified. Petrified of their own f shadows...

It probably went like this:

'No, I don't recognise that name next to the quote, so?'
'Hang on, you're telling me what? I've quoted someone from the war?'
'You've quoted him. The Desert Rat. Rommel.'
'Which war?'
'Rommel who?'
'He was a German. A brilliant tactician. He wasn't crafty, in fact he was a bit of a softie, he used to gift medical supplies to the enemy and didn't really go too hard on prisoners. He also actually didn't like Hitler. At all. In fact, he was involved in the Valkyrie.'
'Yes, yes, apart from wtf is the Valkyrie, I'm hearing all that ...but was he a Nazi?'
'Yes.'
'Oh my god!' 'Oh my god!'(again).
'Scrub it!'
'FFS scrub the quote...
Now!'
'Apologise, apologise, apologise... NOW!'

Schnell! Schnell! hehe
That does seem to be the mentality of lots of people. Whats scary is that they are university students and graduates who should be the complete opposite.

Adult conversation seem to be hard to find. There is a lack of conceptual thought and being able to have a discussion without taking any clear side. Everything seems to need to be a black or white, right or wrong answer there is no nuance or shades of gray.

For example you say the Nazis did do some impressive things with regards to engineering your instantly a Nazis sympathiser.

I do wonder when we all need to start feeling ashamed of achieving the truly great feet of putting man on the moon? As it was a German Nazi scientist who pretty much design the rocket that got us there.

eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Thursday 21st June 2018
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Not-The-Messiah said:
dandarez said:
saaby93 said:
JagLover said:
The university in question seems dangerously close to suggesting that all Germans of the period were evil. Rommel had the good fortune to be based in North Africa and so not involved in the war crimes committed by so many of his fellow Generals in Russia and as you say was involved in a plot to assassinate Hitler.

To use a quote by Rommel should be as uncontroversial as using a quote by Napoleon.
yes

yes

So much for the educated today, eh?
They should be called the petrified. Petrified of their own f shadows...

It probably went like this:

'No, I don't recognise that name next to the quote, so?'
'Hang on, you're telling me what? I've quoted someone from the war?'
'You've quoted him. The Desert Rat. Rommel.'
'Which war?'
'Rommel who?'
'He was a German. A brilliant tactician. He wasn't crafty, in fact he was a bit of a softie, he used to gift medical supplies to the enemy and didn't really go too hard on prisoners. He also actually didn't like Hitler. At all. In fact, he was involved in the Valkyrie.'
'Yes, yes, apart from wtf is the Valkyrie, I'm hearing all that ...but was he a Nazi?'
'Yes.'
'Oh my god!' 'Oh my god!'(again).
'Scrub it!'
'FFS scrub the quote...
Now!'
'Apologise, apologise, apologise... NOW!'

Schnell! Schnell! hehe
That does seem to be the mentality of lots of people. Whats scary is that they are university students and graduates who should be the complete opposite.

Adult conversation seem to be hard to find. There is a lack of conceptual thought and being able to have a discussion without taking any clear side. Everything seems to need to be a black or white, right or wrong answer there is no nuance or shades of gray.

For example you say the Nazis did do some impressive things with regards to engineering your instantly a Nazis sympathiser.

I do wonder when we all need to start feeling ashamed of achieving the truly great feet of putting man on the moon? As it was a German Nazi scientist who pretty much design the rocket that got us there.
Whilst I agree with you about Nazi inventions, don't forget most of them were built on the back of slave labour.

irocfan

40,563 posts

191 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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eccles said:
Whilst I agree with you about Nazi inventions, don't forget most of them were built on the back of slave labour.
caused ethical issues in WWII IIRC - the Nazis used concentration camp victims to assess how long people could survive various situations. The allies were conflicted as to whether they could make use of this knowledge due to the way it was attained

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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I dunno what's worse, the fuhrer furore over whether you should use a quote of a man who, all else aside (and like said he was far from the evil Nazi stooge) is very much recognized as a brilliant tactician, or that someone "educated" didn't recognise the name.