Move your f*in van (Ambwlans)
Discussion
Another note from some cretin moaning about how 'they had to wait for 45 minutes' and if the ambulance crew could 'show some consideration where they park'.
Perhaps the idiot could have a little consideration for the patient and their needs?
Perhaps the idiot could have a little consideration for the patient and their needs?
But why are the Ambulance Service saying that this "rude note" upsets their staff, when a) the note is not at all rude. They may think leaving a note in itself is "rude" but the contents are not rude, no swearing, no name calling, just asking them to show some "consideration", and b) they don't seem to appreciate that the person who's driveway was blocked may have seen that itself as "rude" and is clearly upset enough about it all to leave a note?
So it is ok for an MOP to be upset, but not their staff?
Also, if this vehicle was genuinely stopping access from a drive to a road, is that not an offence? Yes, it may be there for good reason, but it is still technically an offence is it not?
As for their advice about knocking on the door to ask them to move it, I can see that backfiring royally! Surely as a rule of thumb, it is far better for someone to leave a note asking them to be more considerate in future than interrupt actual treatment?
So long as they can justify parking as they did as absolute necessity (same as in the case of the ambulance ticketed outside Tesco for being on double yellows), then I don't see an issue. If, however, they are parking there when they really don't have to, then surely the rules that apply to the rest of us, should apply to them.
FWIW I don't see a lot wrong with the note in this case, but it may be well over the top if the driveway wasn't blocked. Bearing in mind only about 10% of ambulance calls are for life threatening situations, I can see why the neighbour may have left it, especially as they mention "it is not the first time". It says it was an emergency call, but doesn't mention if this was a red 1 or red 2 call in the article.
So it is ok for an MOP to be upset, but not their staff?
Also, if this vehicle was genuinely stopping access from a drive to a road, is that not an offence? Yes, it may be there for good reason, but it is still technically an offence is it not?
As for their advice about knocking on the door to ask them to move it, I can see that backfiring royally! Surely as a rule of thumb, it is far better for someone to leave a note asking them to be more considerate in future than interrupt actual treatment?
So long as they can justify parking as they did as absolute necessity (same as in the case of the ambulance ticketed outside Tesco for being on double yellows), then I don't see an issue. If, however, they are parking there when they really don't have to, then surely the rules that apply to the rest of us, should apply to them.
FWIW I don't see a lot wrong with the note in this case, but it may be well over the top if the driveway wasn't blocked. Bearing in mind only about 10% of ambulance calls are for life threatening situations, I can see why the neighbour may have left it, especially as they mention "it is not the first time". It says it was an emergency call, but doesn't mention if this was a red 1 or red 2 call in the article.
poo at Paul's said:
But why are the Ambulance Service saying that this "rude note" upsets their staff, when a) the note is not at all rude. They may think leaving a note in itself is "rude" but the contents are not rude, no swearing, no name calling, just asking them to show some "consideration", and b) they don't seem to appreciate that the person who's driveway was blocked may have seen that itself as "rude" and is clearly upset enough about it all to leave a note?
So it is ok for an MOP to be upset, but not their staff?
Also, if this vehicle was genuinely stopping access from a drive to a road, is that not an offence? Yes, it may be there for good reason, but it is still technically an offence is it not?
As for their advice about knocking on the door to ask them to move it, I can see that backfiring royally! Surely as a rule of thumb, it is far better for someone to leave a note asking them to be more considerate in future than interrupt actual treatment?
So long as they can justify parking as they did as absolute necessity (same as in the case of the ambulance ticketed outside Tesco for being on double yellows), then I don't see an issue. If, however, they are parking there when they really don't have to, then surely the rules that apply to the rest of us, should apply to them.
FWIW I don't see a lot wrong with the note in this case, but it may be well over the top if the driveway wasn't blocked. Bearing in mind only about 10% of ambulance calls are for life threatening situations, I can see why the neighbour may have left it, especially as they mention "it is not the first time". It says it was an emergency call, but doesn't mention if this was a red 1 or red 2 call in the article.
How would they know if the call justifies parking like that till they’re parked up and with the patient though?So it is ok for an MOP to be upset, but not their staff?
Also, if this vehicle was genuinely stopping access from a drive to a road, is that not an offence? Yes, it may be there for good reason, but it is still technically an offence is it not?
As for their advice about knocking on the door to ask them to move it, I can see that backfiring royally! Surely as a rule of thumb, it is far better for someone to leave a note asking them to be more considerate in future than interrupt actual treatment?
So long as they can justify parking as they did as absolute necessity (same as in the case of the ambulance ticketed outside Tesco for being on double yellows), then I don't see an issue. If, however, they are parking there when they really don't have to, then surely the rules that apply to the rest of us, should apply to them.
FWIW I don't see a lot wrong with the note in this case, but it may be well over the top if the driveway wasn't blocked. Bearing in mind only about 10% of ambulance calls are for life threatening situations, I can see why the neighbour may have left it, especially as they mention "it is not the first time". It says it was an emergency call, but doesn't mention if this was a red 1 or red 2 call in the article.
poo at Paul's said:
But why are the Ambulance Service saying that this "rude note" upsets their staff, when a) the note is not at all rude. They may think leaving a note in itself is "rude" but the contents are not rude, no swearing, no name calling, just asking them to show some "consideration", and b) they don't seem to appreciate that the person who's driveway was blocked may have seen that itself as "rude" and is clearly upset enough about it all to leave a note?
So it is ok for an MOP to be upset, but not their staff?
Also, if this vehicle was genuinely stopping access from a drive to a road, is that not an offence? Yes, it may be there for good reason, but it is still technically an offence is it not?
As for their advice about knocking on the door to ask them to move it, I can see that backfiring royally! Surely as a rule of thumb, it is far better for someone to leave a note asking them to be more considerate in future than interrupt actual treatment?
So long as they can justify parking as they did as absolute necessity (same as in the case of the ambulance ticketed outside Tesco for being on double yellows), then I don't see an issue. If, however, they are parking there when they really don't have to, then surely the rules that apply to the rest of us, should apply to them.
FWIW I don't see a lot wrong with the note in this case, but it may be well over the top if the driveway wasn't blocked. Bearing in mind only about 10% of ambulance calls are for life threatening situations, I can see why the neighbour may have left it, especially as they mention "it is not the first time". It says it was an emergency call, but doesn't mention if this was a red 1 or red 2 call in the article.
1. Paramedics work long hours help a variety of people. Some should have just gone to the doctor, others die in their care. It is rude and inconsiderate to leave a note on an Ambulance complaining they've blocked someone in. So it is ok for an MOP to be upset, but not their staff?
Also, if this vehicle was genuinely stopping access from a drive to a road, is that not an offence? Yes, it may be there for good reason, but it is still technically an offence is it not?
As for their advice about knocking on the door to ask them to move it, I can see that backfiring royally! Surely as a rule of thumb, it is far better for someone to leave a note asking them to be more considerate in future than interrupt actual treatment?
So long as they can justify parking as they did as absolute necessity (same as in the case of the ambulance ticketed outside Tesco for being on double yellows), then I don't see an issue. If, however, they are parking there when they really don't have to, then surely the rules that apply to the rest of us, should apply to them.
FWIW I don't see a lot wrong with the note in this case, but it may be well over the top if the driveway wasn't blocked. Bearing in mind only about 10% of ambulance calls are for life threatening situations, I can see why the neighbour may have left it, especially as they mention "it is not the first time". It says it was an emergency call, but doesn't mention if this was a red 1 or red 2 call in the article.
2. As you note further down, chances are high its not a life threatening situation. As was noted, the crews will respond and move the ambulance if the needs of their casualty allows it. If they're both busy saving someones life, the response will be a very politely worded *F** off*.
3. Leaving a note for one crew is ineffective; they may never be sent to that address/road again, but another crew might.
Badda said:
How would they know if the call justifies parking like that till they’re parked up and with the patient though?
I know what you mean but they do know what the high priority life threatening calls are, of course some may not seem so and become so, but they know from the call centre what certainly used to be called "red" calls are. If it were justified parking as they may have done, why don't the service say that rather than make nonsense accusations about it being a rude note, when it clearly is not!!
esxste said:
1. Paramedics work long hours help a variety of people. Some should have just gone to the doctor, others die in their care. It is rude and inconsiderate to leave a note on an Ambulance complaining they've blocked someone in.
2. As you note further down, chances are high its not a life threatening situation. As was noted, the crews will respond and move the ambulance if the needs of their casualty allows it. If they're both busy saving someones life, the response will be a very politely worded *F** off*.
3. Leaving a note for one crew is ineffective; they may never be sent to that address/road again, but another crew might.
1. Who is to say the guy blocked in missed his GP appt as he was trying to not waste anyone's time. His note is not rude, and may well be entirely appropriate, it does say it is not the first time. It may be they could park far more considerately. 2. As you note further down, chances are high its not a life threatening situation. As was noted, the crews will respond and move the ambulance if the needs of their casualty allows it. If they're both busy saving someones life, the response will be a very politely worded *F** off*.
3. Leaving a note for one crew is ineffective; they may never be sent to that address/road again, but another crew might.
2. Fine, but I think if people follow the advice from the service and knock on the door, and are told to "fk off" some will react badly to that, so i am not sure the advice is sage.
3. I understand, but then speaking to them and them not being able to move it is no more effective than a note.
Obstructing access to the highway is an offence. This is likely some busybody with not much better to do than moan. But it may have been some ambulance crew coming out again to see some "'demic" with flip all wrong with them, blocking in some guy who had some urgent business somewhere, picking someone up, going to the docs, needing to go and help someone in need themselves? That's why it is an offence to block the highway, I suppose!!
I have some problems with your line of thinking
It's one thing to be parked up helping a patient, but would you expect the same level of leniency to be extended to a crew parking up to have their lunch in the park opposite?
Also, the note was not rude. Far from it. Nor was it inconsiderate to leave it if the reason for parking the ambulance their for 45 minutes was not clear.
And what would be the sanction if a crew told someone to F off, just so they could eat their lunch in peace?
What would be the sanction if the crew blocked a drive for 45 minutes with a non emergency and the person who's drive was blocked needed to deal with an emergency of their own - such as pregnant and going into labour and thus needing to be driven to hospital?
Indeed, should there be any sanctions at all? Perhaps there should be a code that says emergency call = ambulance left with it's blues flashing, non emergency call = ambulance left without blues flashing and with the address of the location of the crew left on a note on the dashboard? This would mean that those pesky members of the public can carry on about their business without someone else's non emergency situation, or the crew lunch break affecting them unduly? It would also avoid the crews having to tell members of the public to F off during emergencies..
esxste said:
1. Paramedics work long hours help a variety of people. Some should have just gone to the doctor, others die in their care. It is rude and inconsiderate to leave a note on an Ambulance complaining they've blocked someone in.
So, because Paramedics work long hours and help a variety of people, normal courtesies and considerations should not apply when parking the Ambulance? It's one thing to be parked up helping a patient, but would you expect the same level of leniency to be extended to a crew parking up to have their lunch in the park opposite?
Also, the note was not rude. Far from it. Nor was it inconsiderate to leave it if the reason for parking the ambulance their for 45 minutes was not clear.
esxste said:
2. As you note further down, chances are high its not a life threatening situation. As was noted, the crews will respond and move the ambulance if the needs of their casualty allows it. If they're both busy saving someones life, the response will be a very politely worded *F** off*.
So the public have to risk being told to F off in order to satisfy the sensitivities of Ambulance crews? Do you want to rethink that? Perhaps an alternative would be for Ambulance crews to not park inconsiderately except in cases of emergency? esxste said:
3. Leaving a note for one crew is ineffective; they may never be sent to that address/road again, but another crew might.
So you don't want the public to leave polite notes, but you do want the public to risk being told to F off by a crew. And what would be the sanction if a crew told someone to F off, just so they could eat their lunch in peace?
What would be the sanction if the crew blocked a drive for 45 minutes with a non emergency and the person who's drive was blocked needed to deal with an emergency of their own - such as pregnant and going into labour and thus needing to be driven to hospital?
Indeed, should there be any sanctions at all? Perhaps there should be a code that says emergency call = ambulance left with it's blues flashing, non emergency call = ambulance left without blues flashing and with the address of the location of the crew left on a note on the dashboard? This would mean that those pesky members of the public can carry on about their business without someone else's non emergency situation, or the crew lunch break affecting them unduly? It would also avoid the crews having to tell members of the public to F off during emergencies..
poo at Paul's said:
Badda said:
How would they know if the call justifies parking like that till they’re parked up and with the patient though?
I know what you mean but they do know what the high priority life threatening calls are, of course some may not seem so and become so, but they know from the call centre what certainly used to be called "red" calls are. If it were justified parking as they may have done, why don't the service say that rather than make nonsense accusations about it being a rude note, when it clearly is not!!
Badda said:
poo at Paul's said:
Badda said:
How would they know if the call justifies parking like that till they’re parked up and with the patient though?
I know what you mean but they do know what the high priority life threatening calls are, of course some may not seem so and become so, but they know from the call centre what certainly used to be called "red" calls are. If it were justified parking as they may have done, why don't the service say that rather than make nonsense accusations about it being a rude note, when it clearly is not!!
scenario8 said:
Awwww, lots of likes and shares on facebook…………..awwww...………………………...well worth a tenner!! I look forward to seeing their ugly mugs in the papers and on Good Morning very soon!!
Oh and HMRC will be after them for 40% of that! lol
Not a note this time but another example of cretinous behaviour.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-dies-car...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-dies-car...
I encountered a cretin at the weekend. I discovered my mum had a fall in the night and called an ambulance.
As the paramedics treated my mum, there was a loud knock at the door and cretin asked "if we could move the effing van, as it was blocking him in.
One of them went out to move the van and Mr cretin sat there revving his engine to enforce his point.
As the paramedics treated my mum, there was a loud knock at the door and cretin asked "if we could move the effing van, as it was blocking him in.
One of them went out to move the van and Mr cretin sat there revving his engine to enforce his point.
BlackLabel said:
Not a note this time but another example of cretinous behaviour.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-dies-car...
That sounds a bit different and it would be interesting to hear the full story. On the surface it sounds like it could be a care home built in an inappropriate place and without sufficient parking. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-dies-car...
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