45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 5)

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paulguitar

8,681 posts

72 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Zod said:
Byker28i said:
somethings happening today? Huge rant about Mueller?

edit: Mueller Friday? Reports say trumps just spent 3 days with his lawyers responding to written questions


Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 15th November 14:48
Eric or Donnie Jr to be indicted tomorrow?
Beat me to it...:

Epic orange Twitter meltdown is still ongoing.

I have a feeling there may be Mueller news today or tomorrow.

Eric Mc

113,016 posts

224 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Countdown said:
I don't disagree. My point is that after two years of a car crash presidency he's still polling broadly the same numbers that resulted in him winning last time.

This being the case how much worse do things need to get in order for him to lose?

It may well be that ALL the things the media keeps reporting don't really matter to the average voter......
He hit rock bottom as far as behaviour and personality are concerned years ago. Those who liked that then still do. It's a sad reflection that such a despicable individual can be attractive to some but there ya go.

Gameface

14,381 posts

36 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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paulguitar said:
Zod said:
Byker28i said:
somethings happening today? Huge rant about Mueller?

edit: Mueller Friday? Reports say trumps just spent 3 days with his lawyers responding to written questions


Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 15th November 14:48
Eric or Donnie Jr to be indicted tomorrow?
Beat me to it...:

Epic orange Twitter meltdown is still ongoing.

I have a feeling there may be Mueller news today or tomorrow.
This has been said countless times hasn't it, but nothing ever happens the next day. It's just the usual Trump man child tantrum.

I'd love to be proven wrong this time though.

paulguitar

8,681 posts

72 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Eric Mc said:
He hit rock bottom as far as behaviour and personality are concerned years ago. Those who liked that then still do. It's a sad reflection that such a despicable individual can be attractive to some but there ya go.
I also get the impression many folks are simply ignorant. Over on another thread here, ‘who will be the next US president’, there was a poster claiming that trump has done ‘nothing worse than any of the others’. I think it was genuine ignorance, so this being the case, I am pretty sure many voters in the US just don’t try very hard to research what is actually going on.


Just to back this up, on that recent show where Miriam traveled the US and talked to trump supporters, one of them, who seemed a genuinely lovely guy, said ‘what we need in the Whitehouse is someone of complete integrity, and that's what we have with trump.’




Countdown

28,919 posts

155 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Gameface said:
This has been said countless times hasn't it, but nothing ever happens the next day. It's just the usual Trump man child tantrum.

I'd love to be proven wrong this time though.
Agreed and agreed.

However, and probably wishful thinking on my part, he does seem a lot more miserable than before.....? Surely the drip-drip-drip (Russia investigation, tax returns, dems taking the House, constant negative media coverage, ) must be having a cumulative effect....?

Max_Torque

15,855 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Seventy said:
Oh boy. He’s off again.
I’ll guarantee one thing though, they won’t be studying at Trump University.

Funny that he claims "they don't care how many lives they ruin" and yet, he's even worse! True narcissists can't see their own spots i guess


(ie "Clean coal" "build a wall" "separation of families seeking immigration" etc etc etc (the list is long))

paulguitar

8,681 posts

72 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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It’s hard to keep up with his bullst, unfounded accusations of voter fraud involving people changing clothes to vote again, etc, but sifting through the various insane tweets he seems more obviously unhinged than ever before.

Perhaps his recent lackey DOJ plant has come back to him with the news that Mueller basically knows everything?

paua

1,977 posts

102 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Countdown said:
Gameface said:
This has been said countless times hasn't it, but nothing ever happens the next day. It's just the usual Trump man child tantrum.

I'd love to be proven wrong this time though.
Agreed and agreed.

However, and probably wishful thinking on my part, he does seem a lot more miserable than before.....? Surely the drip-drip-drip (Russia investigation, tax returns, dems taking the House, constant negative media coverage, ) must be having a cumulative effect....?
Forgot to take his meds? biggrin

NRS

16,239 posts

160 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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paulguitar said:
It’s hard to keep up with his bullst, unfounded accusations of voter fraud involving people changing clothes to vote again, etc, but sifting through the various insane tweets he seems more obviously unhinged than ever before.

Perhaps his recent lackey DOJ plant has come back to him with the news that Mueller basically knows everything?
Just seems to love going off on a rant or three. And probably grumpy after losing out to the Dems so lashing out at anything that annoys him a bit as he can't cope with losing at all.

Byker28i

29,904 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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paulguitar said:
Zod said:
Byker28i said:
somethings happening today? Huge rant about Mueller?

edit: Mueller Friday? Reports say trumps just spent 3 days with his lawyers responding to written questions


Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 15th November 14:48
Eric or Donnie Jr to be indicted tomorrow?
Beat me to it...:

Epic orange Twitter meltdown is still ongoing.

I have a feeling there may be Mueller news today or tomorrow.
My thought also.

Byker28i

29,904 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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NRS said:
Byker28i said:
Avenatti arrested over assault of a woman, was reported to be his estranged wife but she's issued a statement saying it wasn't her
His first wife has supported him saying he's never been violent, as has his estranged wife.

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/416793-avenatti-...

Another trumpette making up false allegations such as other recent ones by Jacob Wohl (surefire intelligence), trying to make up for the Kavanaugh revelations?

Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 15th November 08:39
laugh Couldn't make it up. You were very scathing for the few people supporting Kavanaugh, and said a few people saying someone is decent cannot be used as a sign of not guilty. Yet now it is likely the accused that is making things up etc - why would they go through the public exposure etc?

(As an aside I would not be surprised if it is a fake claim, the above is more about assumption of guilt and the hypocrisy).
Because there's no details at the moment and the accusations against Kavanaugh were numerous, verified by other, apart from that one fake that was quickly proved as fake.
If they were fake accusations, you'd have bet the GOP would have had the FBI investigate and expose them, rather than not allow them to.

I think after the Kavanaugh episode that people think they can weaponise accusations, Jacob Wohl tried it, plus it devalues say the 19 allegations against trump?

However, with everything Avenatti has said, I'd fully expect trump to make the most of it...
And yet nothing. He seems preoccupied with Mueller

Gameface

14,381 posts

36 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Surely team Trump has requested the full details of the Avenatti accusation? If there was anything to it wouldn't he be (hypocritically) crowing about it by now?

Byker28i

29,904 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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The Wall Street journal is reporting that Trump intends to nominate a member of Mar-a-Lago to serve as the U.S. ambassador to South Africa. The Mar-a-Lago member doesn’t have previous diplomatic experience

Washington Post is reporting that Donald jnr trip to India to sell the family condos cost taxpayers $100,000
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/ta...

Gameface

14,381 posts

36 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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That's been reported before. She makes handbags or something?

Byker28i

29,904 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Gameface said:
That's been reported before. She makes handbags or something?
You're right, she does, Ivanka favourite ones. I'd forgotton that, thanks

Byker28i

29,904 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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White House correspondents association have joined the CNN suit against trump etc

"The White House is the People’s House, and the First Amendment does not permit the President to pick and choose which journalists do — and do not — cover him there," the WHCA argued. "Far from it, the First Amendment requires a compelling government interest — not whim, prejudice, or dislike — for the President to strip a journalist of his or her ability to report from the White House.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/15/whca-ami...

Byker28i

29,904 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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There's several reports that Jacob kohl and surefire intelligence are behind the accusations against Avenatti, just like the fake ones against Mueller

Avenatti isn't happy


Michael Avenatti
@MichaelAvenatti
First Mueller and now me. When we are fully exonerated I am coming for you Jacob Wohl aka Surefire.


https://nypost.com/2018/11/15/mike-avenatti-blames...


Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 15th November 20:04

Gameface

14,381 posts

36 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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If true Wohl must have a death wish.

Libelling/slandering two people who really know their st, when he so clearly doesn't...

NRS

16,239 posts

160 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Byker28i said:
Because there's no details at the moment and the accusations against Kavanaugh were numerous, verified by other, apart from that one fake that was quickly proved as fake.
If they were fake accusations, you'd have bet the GOP would have had the FBI investigate and expose them, rather than not allow them to.

I think after the Kavanaugh episode that people think they can weaponise accusations, Jacob Wohl tried it, plus it devalues say the 19 allegations against trump?

However, with everything Avenatti has said, I'd fully expect trump to make the most of it...
And yet nothing. He seems preoccupied with Mueller
There wasn't many details early on against Kavanaugh, they were built up over time. Yet many (rightly) were calling for them to be fully investigated, that Kavanaugh should not be assumed innocent as a few people said he was a good person. Yet it seems the assumption of guilt is mostly based on what side the person is batting for. As it was due to the idiotic Republicans playing ignore everything else at the cost of supporting your own party Kavanaugh wasn't properly investigated. Hopefully this will, and if it is framing then hopefully the people get done too. But it is surprising (not really) to see just how biased some people are on here. I also mentioned possible weaponising accusations early on in the Kavanaugh and was basically told to stop victim blaming before it was investigated.

I can understand if it was say Trump doing the accusing - he's long lost any credibility he might have had. But when we don't know who it is then you need to treat them the same way as the accusations against Kavanaugh, until we know one way or the other. Or you're doing the same as GOP (just not in a position of power to actually do anything about the bias).

Byker28i

29,904 posts

176 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Jerry Nadler, the incoming House Judiciary chair, has written to Matthew Whitaker and Chris Wray saying that he expects DOJ and the FBI to address the backlog of unanswered requests from Democrats that were blocked by Republicans over the last two years

https://nadler.house.gov/press-release/ranking-mem...
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