45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)
Discussion
Byker28i said:
Not-The-Messiah said:
First off I dont agree or support their views on the reason they were there in the first place, but believe they should be allowed to protest like everyone else.
Your analogy makes no sense as nothing like that happend if you watch the footage the kids had no interaction with the native americans at first. They started to protest the Black Israelites after being called things like Cracker, the blacks in the group the N word. The Native Americans then walked directly into the center of the group banged a drum right in the face of young kids. The reaction of the group was to mess about and one of them decided to stand his ground.
If your sanario did happen would I be within my rights and be seen as a hero to walk up to them banging a drum in their faces when one of my mates told them this is our land and they should go back to where they come from, And do you think I would just get a few of them laughing at me and one just smiling at me as I banged a brum in their face?
He's identified himself, claims that he was trying to defuse the situationYour analogy makes no sense as nothing like that happend if you watch the footage the kids had no interaction with the native americans at first. They started to protest the Black Israelites after being called things like Cracker, the blacks in the group the N word. The Native Americans then walked directly into the center of the group banged a drum right in the face of young kids. The reaction of the group was to mess about and one of them decided to stand his ground.
If your sanario did happen would I be within my rights and be seen as a hero to walk up to them banging a drum in their faces when one of my mates told them this is our land and they should go back to where they come from, And do you think I would just get a few of them laughing at me and one just smiling at me as I banged a brum in their face?
Edited by Not-The-Messiah on Monday 21st January 00:34
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/young-man-d-c...
ts all over his point doesnt it......andy_s said:
a. The NAs were going somewhere, towards where they were supposed to be apparently.
b. The boys didn’t make way but weren’t blocked themselves except by 4 inch steps. Waiting for a bus, apparently.
c. Words exchanged on both sides, who started it by what who knows.
d. Boy stood with face in NAs face – intimidating posture – NA just drums/sings like he’s supposed to be doing.
e. Boys now jeering, ‘build the wall’ - all seemed smiley and enjoying the moment.
f. NA after the event has tears while explaining what happened.
g. Apology from school and church who had presumably checked what happened with the adults present.
h. Mother of one of the boys says it was ‘black Muslims’ who were winding up the boys.
So seed of doubt OK, but all in all it’s looking to me like it’s still quacking and still waddling like the duck it was originally.
Personally speaking, the anti-abortion march being a school trip and all wearing MAGA caps is frankly bizarre – not my culture but good to see indoctrination is alive and kicking. As for the ‘poor boy’, play silly games and guess what you get…
Let’s see, but you must admit it’s not clearly the NAs fault at all on the video, yet you yourself seem convinced it is, perhaps you’re not as unbiased as you think on this one yourself?
Bafflingly stupid 'merkins; taking the mindless slogan 'build the wall' at face value, in this context surely means building a wall to keep 'murika pure for native americans and keeping 'whitey' out? b. The boys didn’t make way but weren’t blocked themselves except by 4 inch steps. Waiting for a bus, apparently.
c. Words exchanged on both sides, who started it by what who knows.
d. Boy stood with face in NAs face – intimidating posture – NA just drums/sings like he’s supposed to be doing.
e. Boys now jeering, ‘build the wall’ - all seemed smiley and enjoying the moment.
f. NA after the event has tears while explaining what happened.
g. Apology from school and church who had presumably checked what happened with the adults present.
h. Mother of one of the boys says it was ‘black Muslims’ who were winding up the boys.
So seed of doubt OK, but all in all it’s looking to me like it’s still quacking and still waddling like the duck it was originally.
Personally speaking, the anti-abortion march being a school trip and all wearing MAGA caps is frankly bizarre – not my culture but good to see indoctrination is alive and kicking. As for the ‘poor boy’, play silly games and guess what you get…
Let’s see, but you must admit it’s not clearly the NAs fault at all on the video, yet you yourself seem convinced it is, perhaps you’re not as unbiased as you think on this one yourself?
_dobbo_ said:
So, what we've learned in the past page or so is that the smug smiling MAGA hat wearing kid who was just there to protest against the idea of women having rights, was actually the victim, as he was intimidated by single 8 and a half stone old man with his big scary drum. whilst all his MAGA mates deliriously screeched "Build the wall". Which according to the defenders on youtube is just one of their "school slogans" 
I love that certain members of PH can only see a kid in a MAGA hat who thinks women shouldn't be allowed control over their own reproductive rights as the real victim. To horribly paraphrase the movie Jerry Maguire, "you had me at oppressing women"
I love that certain members of PH can only see a kid in a MAGA hat who thinks women shouldn't be allowed control over their own reproductive rights as the real victim. To horribly paraphrase the movie Jerry Maguire, "you had me at oppressing women"
Edited by _dobbo_ on Sunday 20th January 15:15
RobDickinson said:
This is 'some good people on both sides' mk2.
No, there are no good people on the side of racism. Just fk right off with that, these kids, teachers and parents are scum.
Have you dumb asses actually watched the videos of the events?No, there are no good people on the side of racism. Just f
k right off with that, these kids, teachers and parents are scum. Absolutely no evidence of the kids shouting build the wall in the 2 hour video, saying anything racist or approaching Phillips.
But there is evidence of the white kids receiving racist abuse. https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/108686131...
Phillips clearly approaches them and the kids just stand their ground. Juts what should the kids have done? Disrespected him by walking away or turning their backs to him?
Get a grip of yourselves, it isn't healthy.
Here's a CNN host even posting a link to an article saying the media got it wrong.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/108710028643...
This must be a hard one for the Trump fans. Because on the one hand showing respect to your elders and to veterans is really important - but on the other hand the guy is brown so...
The look on his face throughout screams purity and innocence, I don't know why I didn't see it before.
The look on his face throughout screams purity and innocence, I don't know why I didn't see it before.
Boydie88 said:
_dobbo_ said:
So, what we've learned in the past page or so is that the smug smiling MAGA hat wearing kid who was just there to protest against the idea of women having rights, was actually the victim, as he was intimidated by single 8 and a half stone old man with his big scary drum. whilst all his MAGA mates deliriously screeched "Build the wall". Which according to the defenders on youtube is just one of their "school slogans"
I love that certain members of PH can only see a kid in a MAGA hat who thinks women shouldn't be allowed control over their own reproductive rights as the real victim. To horribly paraphrase the movie Jerry Maguire, "you had me at oppressing women"
I love that certain members of PH can only see a kid in a MAGA hat who thinks women shouldn't be allowed control over their own reproductive rights as the real victim. To horribly paraphrase the movie Jerry Maguire, "you had me at oppressing women"
Edited by _dobbo_ on Sunday 20th January 15:15
RobDickinson said:
This is 'some good people on both sides' mk2.
No, there are no good people on the side of racism. Just fk right off with that, these kids, teachers and parents are scum.
Have you dumb asses actually watched the videos of the events?No, there are no good people on the side of racism. Just f
k right off with that, these kids, teachers and parents are scum. Absolutely no evidence of the kids shouting build the wall in the 2 hour video, saying anything racist or approaching Phillips.
But there is evidence of the white kids receiving racist abuse. https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/108686131...
Phillips clearly approaches them and the kids just stand their ground. Juts what should the kids have done? Disrespected him by walking away or turning their backs to him?
Get a grip of yourselves, it isn't healthy.
Here's a CNN host even posting a link to an article saying the media got it wrong.
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/108710028643...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbDvoU968U
minimoog said:
Boydie88 said:
Juts what should the kids have done? Disrespected him by walking away or turning their backs to him?
Ah, grinning smugly in his face and jeering was a sign of respect. I see.Boydie88 said:
Get a grip of yourselves, it isn't healthy.
Hmm.https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/10869332244...
He just stands still while the native approaches him. The kid even gestures others to pay respect.
Take the L fella, the only scum in this video were those that filmed the long live stream.
https://youtu.be/t3EC1_gcr34
With a handy comment to time stamp some 'tolerant' comments
1:06:45 - Threatening an innocent bystander with violence
1:07:49 - Calls the teens "incest babies"
1:12:00 - A lot of the kids were squatting down.
1:12:36 - Nathan Phillips has marched to the spot, stopped walking, and turned to face the crowd. He approached the teens, not the other way around. The crowd then surrounds him.
1:15:25 - "This is a bunch of future school shooters. When y'all gonna go shoot up another school'"
1:18:15 - They get called "crackers" multiple times.
1:18:35 - "You only got one n*gger in the crowd."
1:18:42 - "Oh, you got two n*ggers in the crowd."
1:19:05 - "Get out, n*gger. Get out.""
1:21:27 - "This is a faggot child molester."
1:21:52 - "Christ is coming back to kick yo cracker ass."
1:25:00 - "But you give faggots rights" teens disapprove this
1:27:00 - "There will be no peace until there is bloodshed"
Byker28i said:
The kid actually kept moving and blocking the veterans progress, according to his version, however he didn't say anything to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbDvoU968U
Blocking his progress to what? The native walks up to them and they don't move. The video you have provided literally shows this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbDvoU968U
Boydie88 said:
Byker28i said:
The kid actually kept moving and blocking the veterans progress, according to his version, however he didn't say anything to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbDvoU968U
Blocking his progress to what? The native walks up to them and they don't move. The video you have provided literally shows this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbDvoU968U
He also said he moved to the left and the student followed blocking his way, and did this twice.
He's also saying the students shouldn't be punished but the adults egging them on.
https://eu.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/201...
Edited by Byker28i on Monday 21st January 10:04
Have we done trumps comments about the wall around San Antonio?
“Everybody knows that walls work. You look at different places, they put up a wall, no problem,” Trump said outside the White House. “You look at San Antonio, you look at so many different places, they go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.
San Antonio is 150 miles from the border, doesn't have a wall...
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-touts...
“Everybody knows that walls work. You look at different places, they put up a wall, no problem,” Trump said outside the White House. “You look at San Antonio, you look at so many different places, they go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.
San Antonio is 150 miles from the border, doesn't have a wall...
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-touts...
Byker28i said:
Have we done trumps comments about the wall around San Antonio?
“Everybody knows that walls work. You look at different places, they put up a wall, no problem,” Trump said outside the White House. “You look at San Antonio, you look at so many different places, they go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.
San Antonio is 150 miles from the border, doesn't have a wall...
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-touts...
Would be good to get this thread back on Topic “Everybody knows that walls work. You look at different places, they put up a wall, no problem,” Trump said outside the White House. “You look at San Antonio, you look at so many different places, they go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.
San Antonio is 150 miles from the border, doesn't have a wall...
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-touts...
Byker28i said:
If you bother to watch the whole video he says he put himself in the way to try to difuse the situation, something the student is also claiming.
He also said he moved to the left and the student followed blocking his way, and did this twice.
He's also saying the students shouldn't be punished but the adults egging them on.
Phillips is clearly fabricating it. YOu say they were blocking progress, blocking progress to what? Phillips chose to walk into them and the pictured kid put him in front of his group and just stood his ground.He also said he moved to the left and the student followed blocking his way, and did this twice.
He's also saying the students shouldn't be punished but the adults egging them on.
What are you saying these kids actually did wrong?
Boydie88 said:
A single frame shows him smiling? So what? Where's the jeering?
https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/10869332244...
He just stands still while the native approaches him. The kid even gestures others to pay respect.
Take the L fella, the only scum in this video were those that filmed the long live stream.
https://youtu.be/t3EC1_gcr34
With a handy comment to time stamp some 'tolerant' comments
1:06:45 - Threatening an innocent bystander with violence
1:07:49 - Calls the teens "incest babies"
1:12:00 - A lot of the kids were squatting down.
1:12:36 - Nathan Phillips has marched to the spot, stopped walking, and turned to face the crowd. He approached the teens, not the other way around. The crowd then surrounds him.
1:15:25 - "This is a bunch of future school shooters. When y'all gonna go shoot up another school'"
1:18:15 - They get called "crackers" multiple times.
1:18:35 - "You only got one n*gger in the crowd."
1:18:42 - "Oh, you got two n*ggers in the crowd."
1:19:05 - "Get out, n*gger. Get out.""
1:21:27 - "This is a faggot child molester."
1:21:52 - "Christ is coming back to kick yo cracker ass."
1:25:00 - "But you give faggots rights" teens disapprove this
1:27:00 - "There will be no peace until there is bloodshed"?
It's okay, you like MAGA kids, we get it.https://twitter.com/almostjingo/status/10869332244...
He just stands still while the native approaches him. The kid even gestures others to pay respect.
Take the L fella, the only scum in this video were those that filmed the long live stream.
https://youtu.be/t3EC1_gcr34
With a handy comment to time stamp some 'tolerant' comments
1:06:45 - Threatening an innocent bystander with violence
1:07:49 - Calls the teens "incest babies"
1:12:00 - A lot of the kids were squatting down.
1:12:36 - Nathan Phillips has marched to the spot, stopped walking, and turned to face the crowd. He approached the teens, not the other way around. The crowd then surrounds him.
1:15:25 - "This is a bunch of future school shooters. When y'all gonna go shoot up another school'"
1:18:15 - They get called "crackers" multiple times.
1:18:35 - "You only got one n*gger in the crowd."
1:18:42 - "Oh, you got two n*ggers in the crowd."
1:19:05 - "Get out, n*gger. Get out.""
1:21:27 - "This is a faggot child molester."
1:21:52 - "Christ is coming back to kick yo cracker ass."
1:25:00 - "But you give faggots rights" teens disapprove this
1:27:00 - "There will be no peace until there is bloodshed"?
Byker28i said:
Have we done trumps comments about the wall around San Antonio?
“Everybody knows that walls work. You look at different places, they put up a wall, no problem,” Trump said outside the White House. “You look at San Antonio, you look at so many different places, they go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.
San Antonio is 150 miles from the border, doesn't have a wall...
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-touts...
Yeah, he misspoke and meant San Diego, what of it?“Everybody knows that walls work. You look at different places, they put up a wall, no problem,” Trump said outside the White House. “You look at San Antonio, you look at so many different places, they go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.
San Antonio is 150 miles from the border, doesn't have a wall...
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-touts...
Boydie88 said:
minimoog said:
It's okay, you like MAGA kids, we get it.
Embarrassing chap, get a grip you strange little man.Especially since you've clearly not seen the video you're commenting on. Your comments reflect a fantasy version of it, rather than the actual video.
Might I suggest you get a clue... before trying to accuse others of not having a grip.
captain_cynic said:
Boydie88 said:
minimoog said:
It's okay, you like MAGA kids, we get it.
Embarrassing chap, get a grip you strange little man.Especially since you've clearly not seen the video you're commenting on. Your comments reflect a fantasy version of it, rather than the actual video.
Might I suggest you get a clue... before trying to accuse others of not having a grip.
What fantasy? My comments are literally proved in the videos of the events.
Insinuating some sort of affection for children because you have no other point is embarrassing.
You'd all do yourself a favour to watch Jonathan Pie's American Pie, namely the outro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTZNvlBAF60 and pay attention to the closing lines. s
t like this only gives Trump's team more ammo in 2020 as anyone with a central mind can see this attack on the kids is baseless.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff