45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

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minimoog

5,719 posts

169 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Byker28i said:
Agreed, there's a lot of trouble brewing over those who haven't had their tax refunds yet because of the shutdown, and those who have found they are significantly worse off.
8.4% down is the average.
There was a fair bit of analysis of the effects on middle America of last year's tax I don't recall much being in the negative for a few years yet. The pain for John Q Taxpayer was safely down the road, where most people won't be looking.

A poster above explained that this year low rebates is down to the 'system' not being geared up in time to implement the new regime - so could it be that next year tax rebates will be restored to somewhere approaching expectations, just in time to cast a rosy glow over Trump for the next election?

Edit: although conversely, there's this kind of thing




Edited by minimoog on Tuesday 12th February 13:51

Byker28i

21,862 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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swamp, swamp, swamp

President Donald Trump on Monday publicly pushed the Tennessee Valley Authority to save an aging coal plant in Kentucky that buys its fuel from one of the president’s top supporters.

“Coal is an important part of our electricity generation mix and @TVAnews should give serious consideration to all factors before voting to close viable power plants, like Paradise #3 in Kentucky!” Trump tweeted.

His missive came just days before the TVA board is slated to vote on the future of Paradise Unit 3, a 49-year-old coal plant that the federally owned utility has said would be too expensive to keep operating.

The 1,150-megawatt plant gets the bulk of its coal from a subsidiary of Murray Energy, according to data from the Energy Information Administration. Robert Murray, the CEO of the mining company, is a major Trump supporter who has personally lobbied the president to take other actions to help the ailing coal industry, particularly in regions where he sells coal.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/trump-co...

Tallow

1,345 posts

111 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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minimoog said:
There was a fair bit of analysis of the effects on middle America of last year's tax I don't recall much being in the negative for a few years yet. The pain for John Q Taxpayer was safely down the road, where most people won't be looking.

A poster above explained that this year low rebates is down to the 'system' not being geared up in time to implement the new regime - so could it be that next year tax rebates will be restored to somewhere approaching expectations, just in time to cast a rosy glow over Trump for the next election?
I don't think so, unless they change something again. Whilst many people could well end up paying less tax, they're doing it incrementally on a monthly basis, but getting less year end tax rebate too. The rebate part is noticeable to them, the relatively small amount back every fortnight when they get paid isn't.

Incidentally, this was on my Facebook news feed this morning, and it wasn't the first person I'd seen making angry comments about it. And we're still early into the tax season...


Byker28i

21,862 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Again trumps rhetoric against journalists has consequences. Maga hat supporter attacked a BBC cameraman and other news crews at trump rally last night

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4720890...


edit: shouts fk the media in this clip
https://www.newsweek.com/video-cameraman-attacked-...

Spoon Burner

7,816 posts

137 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Trumps state of the union speech, done by a bad lip reading rofl

https://youtu.be/066WAeG5muE

biggbn

3,223 posts

170 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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The Donald IS bacon given a tangible personification. His lightly salted gently glowing bacon body is constantly slowly cooking in a never ending heat he emanates because he is like, really smart, like 24/7. The Trump/bacon effigy will never burn nor return to its raw state. It is permanently basting in a slow furnace of its own self importance. The bacon man cometh. 

clonmult

10,527 posts

159 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Byker28i said:
Again trumps rhetoric against journalists has consequences. Maga hat supporter attacked a BBC cameraman and other news crews at trump rally last night

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4720890...


edit: shouts fk the media in this clip
https://www.newsweek.com/video-cameraman-attacked-...
They were talking about this on the r4 news this morning. Really did not sound pleasant, but not entirely surprising.

I was intrigued by his apparent continual rallies. He is apparently holding one every two weeks. Basically, he is continually campaigning, but not actually doing much in the way of "Presidenting". Apparently coming out with nonsensical soundbites and continually contradicting yourself is working for a lot of his base - or at least that is what he believes.

Bill

40,607 posts

205 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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clonmult said:
I was intrigued by his apparent continual rallies. He is apparently holding one every two weeks. Basically, he is continually campaigning, but not actually doing much in the way of "Presidenting". Apparently coming out with nonsensical soundbites and continually contradicting yourself is working for a lot of his base - or at least that is what he believes.
Presidenting is hard work and tricky, whereas campaigning gets him the adulation he craves.

Europa1

9,420 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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clonmult said:
They were talking about this on the r4 news this morning. Really did not sound pleasant, but not entirely surprising.

I was intrigued by his apparent continual rallies. He is apparently holding one every two weeks. Basically, he is continually campaigning, but not actually doing much in the way of "Presidenting". Apparently coming out with nonsensical soundbites and continually contradicting yourself is working for a lot of his base - or at least that is what he believes.
And presumably the taxpayer is picking up a large part of the tab for this campaigning - I'm assuming it involves the full presidential panoply of Air Force One, Galaxy full of motorcade, secret service etc.

Gameface

11,430 posts

27 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Bill said:
clonmult said:
I was intrigued by his apparent continual rallies. He is apparently holding one every two weeks. Basically, he is continually campaigning, but not actually doing much in the way of "Presidenting". Apparently coming out with nonsensical soundbites and continually contradicting yourself is working for a lot of his base - or at least that is what he believes.
Presidenting is hard work and tricky, whereas campaigning gets him the adulation he craves.
Hitler enjoyed rallies.

Keeps the public riled up.

anonymous-user

4 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Spoon Burner said:
Trumps state of the union speech, done by a bad lip reading rofl

https://youtu.be/066WAeG5muE
Excellent. Particularly right at the end when Pelosi asks if that's the GOP's best hope. It sure as hell looks like that's an accurate record of what they said!

clonmult

10,527 posts

159 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Europa1 said:
clonmult said:
They were talking about this on the r4 news this morning. Really did not sound pleasant, but not entirely surprising.

I was intrigued by his apparent continual rallies. He is apparently holding one every two weeks. Basically, he is continually campaigning, but not actually doing much in the way of "Presidenting". Apparently coming out with nonsensical soundbites and continually contradicting yourself is working for a lot of his base - or at least that is what he believes.
And presumably the taxpayer is picking up a large part of the tab for this campaigning - I'm assuming it involves the full presidential panoply of Air Force One, Galaxy full of motorcade, secret service etc.
I tried to find out that - apparently it should be paid for by Trumps campaign funds, or possibly by sponsors - there are still plenty of companies out there who will happily put their name behind Trump (I want to giggle writing that).

Gameface said:
Hitler enjoyed rallies.

Keeps the public riled up.
The parallels are definitely there, and he is still "appealing" to his base supporters.

The dems really do need to take the 2020 election very seriously, they need a couple of very strong contenders.

Zigster

1,324 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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_dobbo_ said:
BBC cameraman attacked by MAGA hat goon at the El Paso rally, after Trump and other speakers spent ages riling up the crowd about fake news.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4720890...
MAGA caps do seem to be a strong indicator that the wearer is an utter moron.

Blackpuddin

9,711 posts

155 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Greg66 said:
Spoon Burner said:
Trumps state of the union speech, done by a bad lip reading rofl

https://youtu.be/066WAeG5muE
Excellent. Particularly right at the end when Pelosi asks if that's the GOP's best hope. It sure as hell looks like that's an accurate record of what they said!
hilarious

Byker28i

21,862 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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clonmult said:
Byker28i said:
Again trumps rhetoric against journalists has consequences. Maga hat supporter attacked a BBC cameraman and other news crews at trump rally last night

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4720890...


edit: shouts fk the media in this clip
https://www.newsweek.com/video-cameraman-attacked-...
They were talking about this on the r4 news this morning. Really did not sound pleasant, but not entirely surprising.

I was intrigued by his apparent continual rallies. He is apparently holding one every two weeks. Basically, he is continually campaigning, but not actually doing much in the way of "Presidenting". Apparently coming out with nonsensical soundbites and continually contradicting yourself is working for a lot of his base - or at least that is what he believes.
Appearing live is where he generates money for his 'campaign' fund, that personal piggy bank...

Byker28i

21,862 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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...but I thought the Mexicans were paying biggrin

Mulvaney and budget officials want to redirect unspent federal dollars to fund Trump's wall. The money would reportedly come from disaster relief funds intended for California and Puerto Rico and DoD funds for military construction like family housing.

Done by executive order, this plan would allow the White House to shift money from different budgetary accounts without congressional approval, circumventing Democrats who refuse to give Trump anything like the $5.7 billion he has demanded. Nor would it require a controversial emergency declaration.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/mick-mul...

Gameface

11,430 posts

27 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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I think that would backfire spectacularly if he tries it.

Byker28i

21,862 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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More swampy mcswampface

As a lobbyist and lawyer, David Bernhardt fought for years on behalf of a group of California farmers to weaken Endangered Species Act protections for a finger-size fish, the delta smelt, to gain access to irrigation water.

As a top official since 2017 at the Interior Department, Mr. Bernhardt has been finishing the job: He is working to strip away the rules the farmers had hired him to oppose.

Last week President Trump said he would nominate Mr. Bernhardt to lead the Interior Department, making him the latest in a line of officials now regulating industries that once paid them to work as lobbyists.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/climate/david-b...

Byker28i

21,862 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Tony33 said:
kowalski655 said:
Pupp said:
Just listening to R4 and it is being reported that agreement has been reached on the wall funding so resumed govt shutdown likely avoided, but apparently the Tangoed controller might be unaware... will look for a link
Wait until Fox News declare that the deal isn't enough, then he will throw a tantrum and refuse to sign it
Indeed. "Garbage compromise" according to Hannity before warning Republicans not to endorse it or they will have to explain. Forgot he was in charge.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/governme...
McConnel has just said: "I look forward to reviewing the full text as soon as possible and hope the Senate can act on this legislation in short order.”

Duing the shudown, McConnell wouldn't allow a vote on a bill without Trump's support. Now he's pushing for a quick vote even without Trump signaling he's on-board.

Byker28i

21,862 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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El Paso Fire Department crowd estimates::
Trump: 6,500
Beto O'Rourke: 10,000 - 15,000
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