45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

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Halb

51,731 posts

135 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Byker28i said:
Feel free, always willing to be corrected smile
I've never read Pratchett, feel like thats something I need to do then.
One of Britain's (the world's?) best satirists, up there with Swift.

Eric Mc

110,106 posts

217 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Halb said:
One of Britain's (the world's?) best satirists, up there with Swift.
Who was, of course, Irish.

moffspeed

954 posts

159 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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The latest tweet has to go down as one of the classics.

The heroic Donald called off the air strike at just T minus 10 minutes . DJT observed that the drone was “unmanned” and “flying in international waters”. Without his intervention they were ready to hit 3 “sights”

Somehow “locked and loaded became “cocked and loaded..”

Halb

51,731 posts

135 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Eric Mc said:
Halb said:
One of Britain's (the world's?) best satirists, up there with Swift.
Who was, of course, Irish.
I half expected you to comment there. wink Wiki says he was anglo-irish, like a lot of great creative sorts of his day, writing in english and being part of that London set, but regardless, my original sentence can be taken either way, I don't mind.

Tartan Pixie

1,403 posts

99 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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captain_cynic said:
Eric Mc said:
Gandahar said:
Donald will only do a war without potentially effecting the US economy and his chances of 2020 rely on that being on a role.
You might need to translate that sentence.
I think he's trying to say that Trump may be trying to do a Dubya. Start a war with some 3rd world sthole that "cant" fight back in order to combat his poor ratings at home. Its a standard far-right play, start a war and denounce all your detractors as unpatriotic cowards in order to win an election.

Of course part B is said 3rd world sthole can fight back and ends up killing a bunch of rednecks who still won't change their vote.
It might be a standard political play but for Bush to pull it off he had Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell and Wolfowitz operating in lockstep with allies like Tony Blair. All of those people are talented and intelligent individuals capable of leading a cohesive government department who came together as a team to sell the war to the press, the UN and the populace off the back of 9/11. By contrast Trump has The Best People (TM).

Unlike Bush Trump has no ability to get news sources like MSN and BBC on side and instead relies on the whims of Fox and Twitter, platforms he's used to push a message of non intervention that's going to be difficult to go back on. Overall I think it's going to be hard for him to play the card marked patriotic war unless Iran does something really dumb like attacking American civilians in America (unlikely).

Edited by Tartan Pixie on Friday 21st June 20:23

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Sater didn't turn up to testify today. More stalling tactics?
House Intelligence Committee spokesman: "The Committee had scheduled a voluntary staff-level interview with Mr. [Felix] Sater, but he did not show up this morning as agreed. As a result, the Committee is issuing a subpoena to compel his testimony."
Sater's attorney says he was unable to show up today for "health reasons" and that he "looks forward to voluntarily appearing at the next rescheduled date."

Countdown

26,174 posts

148 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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C&P from the Gulf of Oman thread

Countdown said:
This is all balls.

The USA (well, mainly Israel and the Saudis) want Iran's nuke-building capabilities to be blown to Smithereens.

The JCPOA only put a temporary stop to this. That wasn't acceptable to Israel (because of their inalienable right to bomb whoever they want and not be worried about a backlash). So, as soon as Trump got elected Israel and the NeoCons had somebody they could manipulate (shades of GW Bush...). the plan is as follows;

1. Scrap the JCPOA
2. Put sanctions on Iran
3. Iran responds by restarting nuclear enrichment.
4. The Europeans walk away
5. The US and allies create a cassus belli
6. The US bomb 7 shades of st out of Natanz, Parchin, Arak etc

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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trump has directed ICE agents to conduct a mass roundup of migrant families that have received deportation orders, an operation that is likely to begin with predawn raids in major U.S. cities on Sunday.

trumps response to his poor polling - look tough again on immigration?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/ice-rai...

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Fox are trying to backup trumps uturn on military action

Keane on Fox: Trump was told "that the Iranian national leadership was furious with the tactical commander that shot down the drone because they clearly did not want that provocation to take place. Based on those facts, new information to the president, he called off the strike.”

There hasn't been anything indicating that they were furious or what this was a rogue "tactical commander." Instead, Iranians statements and reports indicate that this was coordinated by IRGC & Artesh and meant as a signal to US.
Drone remains have been exhibited in Tehran.

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Another woman has accused trump of assaulting her in the 90's
E. Jean Carroll, an author said: "He lunges at me, pushes me against the wall, hitting my head quite badly, and puts his mouth against my lips."

https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assaul...

Kristin Anderson. Rachel Crooks. Jessica Drake. Jill Harth. Cathy Heller. Juliet Huddy. Alva Johnson. Ninni Laaksonen. Jessica Leeds. Temple Taggart McDowell. Melinda McGillivray. Cassandra Searles. Natasha Stoynoff. Karena Virginia. Summer Zervos.

And now, E. Jean Carroll.

Tartan Pixie

1,403 posts

99 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Byker28i said:
Sater didn't turn up to testify today. More stalling tactics?
House Intelligence Committee spokesman: "The Committee had scheduled a voluntary staff-level interview with Mr. [Felix] Sater, but he did not show up this morning as agreed. As a result, the Committee is issuing a subpoena to compel his testimony."
Sater's attorney says he was unable to show up today for "health reasons" and that he "looks forward to voluntarily appearing at the next rescheduled date."
Does America have an equivalent of the UK's sergeant at arms?

If not can we lend them ours?

I feel like this is an important civil service role we may have need of in the future so a cultural exchange could be fruitful. They learn the role exists and we learn to carry it out with a greater show of force than is strictly necessary. Win-win if you ask me.

Countdown

26,174 posts

148 months

Friday 21st June 2019
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Byker28i said:
trump has directed ICE agents to conduct a mass roundup of migrant families that have received deportation orders, an operation that is likely to begin with predawn raids in major U.S. cities on Sunday.

trumps response to his poor polling - look tough again on immigration?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/ice-rai...
100% cast-iron guaranteed vote winner.

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Tartan Pixie said:
Does America have an equivalent of the UK's sergeant at arms?

If not can we lend them ours?

I feel like this is an important civil service role we may have need of in the future so a cultural exchange could be fruitful. They learn the role exists and we learn to carry it out with a greater show of force than is strictly necessary. Win-win if you ask me.
They do indeed, called a Sergeant at Arms of the Senate or originally known as the Doorkeeper of the Senate, created when an impeached senator refused to attend his trial in the Senate chamber
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minut...


Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Byker28i said:
Another woman has accused trump of assaulting her in the 90's
E. Jean Carroll, an author said: "He lunges at me, pushes me against the wall, hitting my head quite badly, and puts his mouth against my lips."

https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assaul...

Kristin Anderson. Rachel Crooks. Jessica Drake. Jill Harth. Cathy Heller. Juliet Huddy. Alva Johnson. Ninni Laaksonen. Jessica Leeds. Temple Taggart McDowell. Melinda McGillivray. Cassandra Searles. Natasha Stoynoff. Karena Virginia. Summer Zervos.

And now, E. Jean Carroll.
More on this in the Washington Post

In an interview with The Washington Post on Friday afternoon, Carroll reiterated the allegations, saying that during a chance encounter with the then-real estate developer at Bergdorf Goodman in late 1995 or early 1996, Trump attacked her in a dressing room. She said he knocked her head against a wall, pulled down her tights and briefly penetrated her before she pushed him off and ran out.

She said she hoped that telling her story “will empower women to come forward and not feel bad. .?.?. I blamed myself and I was silent and I felt guilty. I beat up myself terrible.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/magazine-c...

She then went live on the Last Word last night, to discuss her accusation of sexual assault against Trump.

Trump denied the allegations in a statement Friday, saying he had "never met this person." He accused Carroll of sharing her account to raise book sales, comparing her to women who "falsely accused" Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh during his contentious confirmation hearings.

"Shame on those who make up false stories of assault to try to get publicity for themselves, or sell a book, or carry out a political agenda -- like Julie Swetnick who falsely accused Justice Brett Kavanaugh," Trump said. "It's just as bad for people to believe it, particularly when there is zero evidence. Worse still for a dying publication to try to prop itself up by peddling fake news -- it's an epidemic."

"If anyone has information that the Democratic Party is working with Ms. Carroll or New York Magazine, please notify us as soon as possible," Trump said in the statement. "The world should know what's really going on. It is a disgrace and people should pay dearly for such false accusations."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/21/politics/trump-...

Shame on trump for claiming he's never met her, when there are photos of the two of them together,and for trying to blame the Dems



Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 22 June 06:50

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Court docs previously filed under seal with the government's sentencing recommendations for Paul Manafort have been made public. The documents include a months-long text exchange between Manafort and a "Sean" who appears to be Sean Hannity.


https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000016b-7bc0-dc80-...

There's lots in this
In January, Manafort writes, "Sean ... my attorney -- Kevin Downing -- will call you ... He will update you on what we are doing and how it connects to your reporting." Hannity replies, "Awesome," says "I asked him to feed me everyday" and later says, "HE HAS TO SEND ME STUFF."

Mannafort to Hannity - You are leading truely leading the brigade that is savign America from the Facists

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Remember trump throwing a tantrum because Acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney coughed during his ABC interview?

Trudeau did and made sure he coughed as the two world leaders assembled in front of the press at the White House. Not only that, knowing trump is a germophobe, he coughed into the hand he then shook with trump just moments later.

https://www.indy100.com/article/justin-trudeau-tru...


Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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just another average day in trumpland

1. Trump accused of forcible rape by a famous writer
2. Trump adviser Sean Hannity faces a possible federal investigation on obstruction that involves Donald Trump as a co-conspirator
3. Trump lies to America about a national security briefing that almost led to war
4. Trump again shown to have no respect from other world leaders

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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More on Hannity and Manafort.

We know trump was suggesting he would pardon Manafort if he 'kept strong', apparently only through his lawyers, but it now appears he was also doing it through Hannity who he spoke to almost daily on the telephone.

Hannity was not interacting with Manafort as a reporter, he was conspiring with Manafort and Trump to ensure that Manafort stayed quiet and wasn't punished for doing so.

It also exposes how Manafort was constantly leaking, despite a gag order.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/21/paul-man...

Ructions

3,864 posts

73 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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Byker28i said:
just another average day in trumpland

1. Trump accused of forcible rape by a famous writer
US President Donald Trump has dismissed allegations that he raped a woman in a department store dressing room in the mid-1990s as "fiction".
The US president says he never met E. Jean Carroll and accusing her of making up the allegation to sell a new book.



The above photo says otherwise.

Byker28i

22,724 posts

169 months

Saturday 22nd June 2019
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trump warned Iran an attack was coming
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/449667-report-i...

Surely that's putting troops lives at risk?

Then there's a question over whether Putin told trump to call off the attack, which is why it was cancelled.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-warns-against-...

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