Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France
Discussion
citizensm1th said:
i4got said:
On both sides I'd say. There is certainly an element of 'I'll ignore police brutality in France because it doesn't sit well with my rose-tinted view of the EU."
Nope il ignore it because I don't live there and I am not running around French cities wearing a high viz provoking a military force who are set up just for such eventualitys. The crs are not the police btwBugger all to do with my views on the EU as internal security affairs of member states has F. A. To do with the EU
I terms of security, any FOM area is only as secure as its weakest link (nation). There is, for example, very good reason why links to Belgium have, for many years, flagged up as a potential hazard for individuals looking to work on HMG projects requiring security clearance.
citizensm1th said:
The crs are not the police btw
They are, they are the Compangnies Republicaine de Securite, a unit of the Police Nationale. They are involved in the main for VIP protection, riot control, mountain rescue and motorway policing but are also used as a mobile police reserve for any major incident.Rushjob said:
They are, they are the Compangnies Republicaine de Securite, a unit of the Police Nationale. They are involved in the main for VIP protection, riot control, mountain rescue and motorway policing but are also used as a mobile police reserve for any major incident.
Been there settled that to late sorry Lentilist said:
Equally true to say "I'll ignore police brutality in the UK when it's tuition fee protesters, Stop the War coalition or XR activists getting beaten up"? Post on this very forum during such protests would suggest many don't seem to mind the police wading in when it's "eco-loons" or "soap dodgers" on the receiving end.
When the 'rent-a-mob' crowd start smashing windows, trashing and looting I'm quite pleased that the police wade in.The view of my French colleagues: "France is crazy, we moan about wanting change, we elect a President away from the political norms to deliver change then we go on strike when there is any attempt to impliment change"
Also on the subject of CRS, it is true that there are not any spotty faced 18 year olds in the CRS however a recent experience up close. I was at the Arc de Triomphe and was caught up in a quick escalation of a Gillet Jaune incident. The CRS that were there were being subjected to the most horrific abuse from some of the extreme participants. I was trying to get past a barricade and was dealt with in a very civil and polite way. The CRS that I witnessed Simply stood thier ground in a polite and professional way. Dont get me wrong I know they can be harsh when instructed to be.
Also on the subject of CRS, it is true that there are not any spotty faced 18 year olds in the CRS however a recent experience up close. I was at the Arc de Triomphe and was caught up in a quick escalation of a Gillet Jaune incident. The CRS that were there were being subjected to the most horrific abuse from some of the extreme participants. I was trying to get past a barricade and was dealt with in a very civil and polite way. The CRS that I witnessed Simply stood thier ground in a polite and professional way. Dont get me wrong I know they can be harsh when instructed to be.
Earthdweller said:
vaud said:
Civil defense was mostly bks. Lots of grand plans, all hinging on (quite low level council workers) heading to a bunker and then to dig mass graves, etc... instead of to their families.
My dad had an allocation in a shelter, but he was always clear that he wasn't going to take it up. Given we lived near a primary strike target it was immaterial anyway.
We often used to joke that if the warning went off we’d blue light it as fast as possible up the M11 to try and outrun the mushroom cloud .My dad had an allocation in a shelter, but he was always clear that he wasn't going to take it up. Given we lived near a primary strike target it was immaterial anyway.
We used to have a “secret nuclear bunker” underneath a police training camp and I went a few times with my Sergeant who was the key holder for it
Was quite surreal powering it up and wandering round it, making a couple of phone and radio calls then closing it down and locking it up again
I did and do still wonder what the designated survivors would have been able to do or whether there’d be anyone left “on top” to do their bidding in any case
As you mentioned I wonder how many would have left their families and children behind or whether they’d have chosen to stay with their families
And still it goes on, yet unreported in the main
Footage from yesterday 11/01/20
https://fbwat.ch/12mlT1D3VAFTGon6
https://youtu.be/6fHr5TI7iuo
Footage from yesterday 11/01/20
https://fbwat.ch/12mlT1D3VAFTGon6
https://youtu.be/6fHr5TI7iuo
Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 12th January 20:15
Earthdweller said:
And still it goes on, yet unreported in the main
Footage from yesterday 11/01/20
https://fbwat.ch/12mlT1D3VAFTGon6
https://youtu.be/6fHr5TI7iuo
So France burns, it seems close to revolt and the UK news has nothing.Footage from yesterday 11/01/20
https://fbwat.ch/12mlT1D3VAFTGon6
https://youtu.be/6fHr5TI7iuo
Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 12th January 20:15
Dont like rolls said:
Earthdweller said:
And still it goes on, yet unreported in the main
Footage from yesterday 11/01/20
https://fbwat.ch/12mlT1D3VAFTGon6
https://youtu.be/6fHr5TI7iuo
So France burns, it seems close to revolt and the UK news has nothing.Footage from yesterday 11/01/20
https://fbwat.ch/12mlT1D3VAFTGon6
https://youtu.be/6fHr5TI7iuo
Edited by Earthdweller on Sunday 12th January 20:15
valiant said:
Hardly "on the front page of the news" is it. Dont like rolls said:
valiant said:
Hardly "on the front page of the news" is it. Just because it’s not a headliner doesn’t mean that stuff isn’t being reported.
With all the nonsense surrounding the royals and developments in Iran continuing to dominate the front page, it’s hardly surprising a long running protest that has little bearing on the UK doesn’t make the front pages.
valiant said:
Considering you stated that there was nothing being reported on UK news...
Just because it’s not a headliner doesn’t mean that stuff isn’t being reported.
With all the nonsense surrounding the royals and developments in Iran continuing to dominate the front page, it’s hardly surprising a long running protest that has little bearing on the UK doesn’t make the front pages.
little bearing on the UK ........ummm, one of the Eu leading countries burning every weekend, I would say that is a massive news story myself.Just because it’s not a headliner doesn’t mean that stuff isn’t being reported.
With all the nonsense surrounding the royals and developments in Iran continuing to dominate the front page, it’s hardly surprising a long running protest that has little bearing on the UK doesn’t make the front pages.
OK, on the Tele/Newspapers.
mike74 said:
Great to see there are some people in the world who will stand up for their rights.
Unlike the compliant, obedient little debt slave worker drones of the UK, more worried about keeping up the repayments on their overpriced Help To Buy slaveboxes and PCP'd Audis.
We must assume you weren't around in the 70s, when the 'sick man of Europe' had millions of 'workers' standing up for their rights and fking up the country completely.Unlike the compliant, obedient little debt slave worker drones of the UK, more worried about keeping up the repayments on their overpriced Help To Buy slaveboxes and PCP'd Audis.
Just as is happening now in l'homme malade de l'Europe.............
Dont like rolls said:
little bearing on the UK ........ummm, one of the Eu leading countries burning every weekend, I would say that is a massive news story myself.
OK, on the Tele/Newspapers.
It makes you wonder how much control the Govt have in France and how much governance is actually taking place OK, on the Tele/Newspapers.
Huge numbers of civil servants, teachers, rail workers etc on strike
Is France functioning property or descending into anarchy ?
mike74 said:
Great to see there are some people in the world who will stand up for their rights.
Unlike the compliant, obedient little debt slave worker drones of the UK, more worried about keeping up the repayments on their overpriced Help To Buy slaveboxes and PCP'd Audis.
And yet the UK population continues to grow by the 100's of thousands each year due to people wanting to come and work like obedient little debt slaves. Or maybe the UK offers more than that.......Unlike the compliant, obedient little debt slave worker drones of the UK, more worried about keeping up the repayments on their overpriced Help To Buy slaveboxes and PCP'd Audis.
Isn't London the 2nd largest city by population of French citizens, only Paris is larger numbers?
jsf said:
mike74 said:
Great to see there are some people in the world who will stand up for their rights.
Unlike the compliant, obedient little debt slave worker drones of the UK, more worried about keeping up the repayments on their overpriced Help To Buy slaveboxes and PCP'd Audis.
And yet the UK population continues to grow by the 100's of thousands each year due to people wanting to come and work like obedient little debt slaves. Or maybe the UK offers more than that.......Unlike the compliant, obedient little debt slave worker drones of the UK, more worried about keeping up the repayments on their overpriced Help To Buy slaveboxes and PCP'd Audis.
Isn't London the 2nd largest city by population of French citizens, only Paris is larger numbers?
Earthdweller said:
It makes you wonder how much control the Govt have in France and how much governance is actually taking place
Huge numbers of civil servants, teachers, rail workers etc on strike
Is France functioning property or descending into anarchy ?
I don’t think France has ever functioned properly. It’s always seemed to operate like Greece while pretending they’re like the British/Germans.Huge numbers of civil servants, teachers, rail workers etc on strike
Is France functioning property or descending into anarchy ?
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