How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 8)
Discussion
PurpleMoonlight said:
What's it say, I have no sound on my computer so no point in watching.
PurpleMoonlight said:
wc98 said:
i knew you wouldn't watch it biggrin maybe you could email mrs may for the details of her lip reader wink
I could indeed but I doubt she would reply.
I also have data limited internet access so try not to watch long videos.I could indeed but I doubt she would reply.
chrispmartha said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
why is Tusk deliberately trying to p
s off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.
You can’t just carry on lying just because its a new threads off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.Great news, I'm all for it. There wasn't much appetite for that during the Fox "one of the easiest" discussion last week, to my disappointment.
PurpleMoonlight said:
SpeckledJim said:
If that comes to pass, you'd hope they'd sort it PDQ.
UK and Euro business would not be impressed, and bring whatever influence they can to bear, IMO.
What is this influence, I'm yet to see any evidence of it?UK and Euro business would not be impressed, and bring whatever influence they can to bear, IMO.
Terminator X said:
Leaving with "no deal" was never possible imho given May is a remainer and so are a reasonable number of MP's even if their constituents are not!
Whilst that's true I think the problem is May thought she could get her BRINO deal through the HoC. She was too blind to see a 230 vote defeat coming. That has left a high probability of a no deal exit.WeCumTitVillage said:
Camoradi said:
Unicorns
Crash Out
Cliff Edge
Our future
Our children's futures
There, I've said them all to save anyone else repeating them. They're tired and they really need a rest
If you had added ' cake' you'd be able to string together a post by MrrTCrash Out
Cliff Edge
Our future
Our children's futures
There, I've said them all to save anyone else repeating them. They're tired and they really need a rest
amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
why is Tusk deliberately trying to ps off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.
You can’t just carry on lying just because its a new threads off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.Great news, I'm all for it. There wasn't much appetite for that during the Fox "one of the easiest" discussion last week, to my disappointment.
chrispmartha said:
amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
why is Tusk deliberately trying to ps off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.
You can’t just carry on lying just because its a new threads off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.Great news, I'm all for it. There wasn't much appetite for that during the Fox "one of the easiest" discussion last week, to my disappointment.
amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
amusingduck said:
chrispmartha said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
why is Tusk deliberately trying to ps off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.
You can’t just carry on lying just because its a new threads off 17.4 million people , firstly condemning them to hell and now saying that nice Mr Corbyn has a good idea.Great news, I'm all for it. There wasn't much appetite for that during the Fox "one of the easiest" discussion last week, to my disappointment.
digga said:
wiggy001 said:
I used to think May was simply incompetent but it's much much worse than that.
This. Her actions were downright dishonest. The negotiation process was hi-jacked by people who did not want to leave.Now if you voted remain, you might think "good", but the problem is, we are all in the same boat and it is a boat that, through the inevitable process that followed the referendum is leaving the EU. So we've had an illogical opposition, which has netted us all a really, really stty deal.
I'd believed this for some time, but this video back it up, to the hilt.
king wonder they keep saying they need the UK to make up it's mind what it wantsUK - We don't want to be in CU or SM and no free movement of people how about a FTA and agreements on mutual co-operation
EU - OK I think we can do that it won't compromise your red lines and wouldn't hurt either of us too much however we want to sort out your exit first and then we can talk trade - you can have a transition period while we talk trade where nothing changes.
UK - That's great but we've changed our minds - we now want a deep and meaningful relationship but we don't want to be in the customs union or single market but we want full access without paying for it
EU - f
k Off that's cherry picking we've said you can't do thatUK - OK how much of it can we get without breaking our red lines
EU - Your red lines need to be pink and wobbly
UK - But pink is still red right - no one will notice
EU - Your problem is your border with Ireland it's going to be a land border with the EU so if during the transition period we don't come to an agreement (and lets be honest you change your mind about what you want so frequently it's frankly going to be f
king hard work trying to deal with your cake and eat it approach) we need something of a backstop UK - Backstop that sounds fine just write that into the agreement and we'll sign it
Oooops!!!!!
king arthur said:
Terminator X said:
Leaving with "no deal" was never possible imho given May is a remainer and so are a reasonable number of MP's even if their constituents are not!
Whilst that's true I think the problem is May thought she could get her BRINO deal through the HoC. She was too blind to see a 230 vote defeat coming. That has left a high probability of a no deal exit.https://youtu.be/jVmSxbQwwlk
B'stard Child said:
I watched that video and my conclusion was I have every sympathy for the EU side - no fking wonder they keep saying they need the UK to make up it's mind what it wants
UK - We don't want to be in CU or SM and no free movement of people how about a FTA and agreements on mutual co-operation
EU - OK I think we can do that it won't compromise your red lines and wouldn't hurt either of us too much however we want to sort out your exit first and then we can talk trade - you can have a transition period while we talk trade where nothing changes.
UK - That's great but we've changed our minds - we now want a deep and meaningful relationship but we don't want to be in the customs union or single market but we want full access without paying for it
EU - fk Off that's cherry picking we've said you can't do that
UK - OK how much of it can we get without breaking our red lines
EU - Your red lines need to be pink and wobbly
UK - But pink is still red right - no one will notice
EU - Your problem is your border with Ireland it's going to be a land border with the EU so if during the transition period we don't come to an agreement (and lets be honest you change your mind about what you want so frequently it's frankly going to be fking hard work trying to deal with your cake and eat it approach) we need something of a backstop
UK - Backstop that sounds fine just write that into the agreement and we'll sign it
Oooops!!!!!
king wonder they keep saying they need the UK to make up it's mind what it wantsUK - We don't want to be in CU or SM and no free movement of people how about a FTA and agreements on mutual co-operation
EU - OK I think we can do that it won't compromise your red lines and wouldn't hurt either of us too much however we want to sort out your exit first and then we can talk trade - you can have a transition period while we talk trade where nothing changes.
UK - That's great but we've changed our minds - we now want a deep and meaningful relationship but we don't want to be in the customs union or single market but we want full access without paying for it
EU - f
k Off that's cherry picking we've said you can't do thatUK - OK how much of it can we get without breaking our red lines
EU - Your red lines need to be pink and wobbly
UK - But pink is still red right - no one will notice
EU - Your problem is your border with Ireland it's going to be a land border with the EU so if during the transition period we don't come to an agreement (and lets be honest you change your mind about what you want so frequently it's frankly going to be f
king hard work trying to deal with your cake and eat it approach) we need something of a backstop UK - Backstop that sounds fine just write that into the agreement and we'll sign it
Oooops!!!!!
B'stard Child said:
I watched that video and my conclusion was I have every sympathy for the EU side - no fking wonder they keep saying they need the UK to make up it's mind what it wants
As a passionate brexiter, I have to agree.king wonder they keep saying they need the UK to make up it's mind what it wantsMy immediate question is: why was this not picked up by any mainstream media?
I'd heard through this thread that we were offered an FTA early on, but was of the opinion that the other stuff (not being part of security arrangements etc) made it pointless. We now hear that those were up for discussion too.
So May has been deceitful... were the media complicit in this or just unaware?
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