Student strike for climate change
Discussion
esxste said:
otolith said:
Detention for 17 year olds? At the same time we are being told that they should be given the vote? Making education compulsory up to 18 seems to have driven the infantilisation of this age group.
There are many things that have infantalised the latest generation. Personally I blame the 40+ crowd who raised them and have all the political power in the country.
Thankfully the Millenials can be left to their avocado toast for this one.
j_4m said:
I dropped out of my school halfway through the first A level year to attend a college. The difference in maturity between 16-18 year olds at a school and at a college was pretty remarkable.
My sister attended the same sixth form college I had, seven years later. So that would have been '96-ish. I couldn't believe how much more they were treating her cohort like schoolchildren. We had teachers saying "if you don't want to study, f
k off out of my classroom, no skin off my nose". They were being micromanaged.any teacher that thinks it is a good idea to let young impressionable minds be influenced by orgs like these https://rebellion.earth/https://risingup.org.uk/about-us needs a kick up the arse, imo.
this sounds a well thought out proposal,not. "The Government must enact legally-binding policies to reduce carbon emissions in the UK to net zero by 2025 and take further action to remove the excess of atmospheric greenhouse gases. It must cooperate internationally so that the global economy runs on no more than half a planet’s worth of resources per year."
this sounds a well thought out proposal,not. "The Government must enact legally-binding policies to reduce carbon emissions in the UK to net zero by 2025 and take further action to remove the excess of atmospheric greenhouse gases. It must cooperate internationally so that the global economy runs on no more than half a planet’s worth of resources per year."
wc98 said:
any teacher that thinks it is a good idea to let young impressionable minds be influenced by orgs like these https://rebellion.earth/https://risingup.org.uk/about-us needs a kick up the arse, imo.
this sounds a well thought out proposal,not. "The Government must enact legally-binding policies to reduce carbon emissions in the UK to net zero by 2025 and take further action to remove the excess of atmospheric greenhouse gases. It must cooperate internationally so that the global economy runs on no more than half a planet’s worth of resources per year."
I wonder how many of them have the first clue what achieving that would do to their lifestyles?this sounds a well thought out proposal,not. "The Government must enact legally-binding policies to reduce carbon emissions in the UK to net zero by 2025 and take further action to remove the excess of atmospheric greenhouse gases. It must cooperate internationally so that the global economy runs on no more than half a planet’s worth of resources per year."
j_4m said:
otolith said:
I wonder how many of them have the first clue what achieving that would do to their lifestyles?
No car.
Turn off the gas central heating and cut domestic electricity usage by 70% (i.e. to the proportion of UK generation which is renewable).
No new gadgets, toys. Minimal clothing purchases. Made do and mend.
Cut usage of internet services by 70% (all that infrastructure uses power, from mobile phone masts to Instagram's datacentres)
No more meat, after they've eaten the dog.
No holidays abroad.
No holidays in the UK which can't be done by public transport, and then not too far.
Heard this on the radio this morning. The 17-year-old they got on to discuss it seemed very confused about what they were protesting for.
I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
Tankrizzo said:
Heard this on the radio this morning. The 17-year-old they got on to discuss it seemed very confused about what they were protesting for.
I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
Prediction correct. There was some chap on the news that had just come from there. Lots of kids being groomed into supporting Socialist worker placards, Jeremy Corbyn in, etc. Teachers are mainly lefties. Big issue with climate change is lack of education, so go back to school and get educated. If they want to do something about climate change then walk to school, stop eating Macdonalds and stop using your mobile phone.I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
It's been on the radio today and the kids are well meaning but full of indoctrination.
Doesn't their history classes mention it was warm enough to grow grapes in most of the UK a few hundred years ago, or that a few hundred years later it was that cold there would be markets held on a frozen river Thames every winter proving that climate change is a natural phenomenon.
Doesn't their history classes mention it was warm enough to grow grapes in most of the UK a few hundred years ago, or that a few hundred years later it was that cold there would be markets held on a frozen river Thames every winter proving that climate change is a natural phenomenon.
Peter911 said:
Tankrizzo said:
Heard this on the radio this morning. The 17-year-old they got on to discuss it seemed very confused about what they were protesting for.
I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
Prediction correct. There was some chap on the news that had just come from there. Lots of kids being groomed into supporting Socialist worker placards, Jeremy Corbyn in, etc. Teachers are mainly lefties. Big issue with climate change is lack of education, so go back to school and get educated. If they want to do something about climate change then walk to school, stop eating Macdonalds and stop using your mobile phone.I also note that when asked how many schools were involved, she said "over 30 towns and cities were signed up" which is a bit different to the truth that pupils from over 30 of these towns were in for it. That could be just 30 kids....
I predict this will be a few hundred of the usual Socialist Worker placard-waving rabble with their children chanting rubbish outside Westminster.
You'll have to take my word for this because I cannot come up with a link, but on Radio 4 'Today' someone was being interviewed about the disaster awaiting us when all the insects die out soon due, in part, to climate change. The two critical phrases pertaining to the remedy that stuck out were '...reducing inequalities...' and '...changing from a capitalist society.' The naked political agenda showed through the hand-wringing doom forecast.
The Socialist Worker connection is that the Socialist Worker's Party is closely tied to a lot of the climate change activist groups for younger people, so a lot of members being to both camps. The SWP turn out at these events and to be fair have a very slick marketing campaign which involves producing thousands of placards with the "message of the day" on and subtle mentions of their own party on the bottom. Any event which will be protesting a remotely capitalist government, they're there. Brexit, climate change, austerity, student fees, you name it. It's not just the Tories either, I remember them laying into Blair in the early 2000s too.
I have to give them credit for their grassroots operations as they're very good at it.
I have to give them credit for their grassroots operations as they're very good at it.
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