Student strike for climate change

Student strike for climate change

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smartypants

42,774 posts

119 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Coolbanana said:
I'm not here to educate you, but you are seriously in need of an education on the subject if what you have stated here is true - the same goes for anyone in the same situation. That doesn't mean you are "stupid", far from it, it simply means you need to delve into the subject better than you obviously have; personally, I believe the debate was done a long time ago and people are waking up to and accepting the reality - so change is happening, slowly, but the momentum is there and it'll get better from here on out - hopefully with enough time to make a positive difference. smile

Denial is akin to not believing in Evolution or a round Earth and while you may have a dawning moment and understand having researched properly, many won't but that's ok so long as they are in the minority and are "forced" by legislation etc to consume and use services and products that reduce their harmful footprint. There is a wealth of easy-to-understand information as to what Climate Change is, how humans have affected it and what they might do to redress the situation - and this quite apart from the Earth's natural cycles and the tin-foil hat brigade and big businesses for whom it is cheaper to pay rogue "Scientists" to confuse the issue with falsehoods and dubious "facts".

Anyway, good on the schoolkids for doing their part to keep people talking about it - and hopefully, joining in to do something about it too. smile
I refer you back to my points a, b and c



turbobloke

88,015 posts

210 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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smartypants said:
Coolbanana said:
I'm not here to educate you, but you are seriously in need of an education on the subject if what you have stated here is true - the same goes for anyone in the same situation. That doesn't mean you are "stupid", far from it, it simply means you need to delve into the subject better than you obviously have; personally, I believe the debate was done a long time ago and people are waking up to and accepting the reality - so change is happening, slowly, but the momentum is there and it'll get better from here on out - hopefully with enough time to make a positive difference. smile

Denial is akin to not believing in Evolution or a round Earth and while you may have a dawning moment and understand having researched properly, many won't but that's ok so long as they are in the minority and are "forced" by legislation etc to consume and use services and products that reduce their harmful footprint. There is a wealth of easy-to-understand information as to what Climate Change is, how humans have affected it and what they might do to redress the situation - and this quite apart from the Earth's natural cycles and the tin-foil hat brigade and big businesses for whom it is cheaper to pay rogue "Scientists" to confuse the issue with falsehoods and dubious "facts".

Anyway, good on the schoolkids for doing their part to keep people talking about it - and hopefully, joining in to do something about it too. smile
I refer you back to my points a, b and c
Best of luck with your interlocutor on those points. Independent thought is so yesterday in bien pensant circles.

The tactics in play, indoctrination and pester power (influencing parents supposedly), that's what schools are for.


Cold

8,179 posts

40 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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I posted this in the Juvenile thread because it amused me:

Cold said:
Belfast today, a group of the schoolkids who are "on strike" to protest about climate change, but still maintaining a sense of humour.

Randy Winkman

7,635 posts

139 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.

funkyrobot

18,388 posts

178 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Cold said:
I posted this in the Juvenile thread because it amused me:

Cold said:
Belfast today, a group of the schoolkids who are "on strike" to protest about climate change, but still maintaining a sense of humour.

If I ever feel the need to take my daughter out of school for a holiday, I'm going to say it's really to protest about climate change.

Looking at some of the spelling above, they need to be in school more. hehe

smartypants

42,774 posts

119 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
Best of luck with your interlocutor on those points. Independent thought is so yesterday in bien pensant circles.

The tactics in play, indoctrination and pester power (influencing parents supposedly), that's what schools are for.

hehe

We had the same when we were at school, in fact fossil fuels were supposed to have run out by now, and the ozone layer should have disappeared. (obviously it didn't just because the western world stopped using CFCs... aren't we amazing)

turbobloke

88,015 posts

210 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.
You didn't post a qualifying age but I'd say more interesting and entertaining than annoying.

Parents who aren't already molten due to the horrendous global warming we're all experiencing may consider the loss of lessons/teaching/learning time as a point worthy of consideration.

At least the teachers will have an excuse for any lower grades this year. Apparently the strike is supported by at least one headteacher union. They've spotted that it's hardly worth striving for good results when the kids will be frying in their own juices fairly soon.

smartypants

42,774 posts

119 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Good practice I suppose for when Comrade Corbyn gets in. Probably get some fluorescent jackets upon graduation.


williamp

16,767 posts

223 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.
On a school day? Whats wrong withthe weekend??

garagewidow

970 posts

120 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Wonder how many of them will have forgotten all this once they get on the greasy career pole and strive for a 4 bed detached and 2 German motors on the drive.

Wacky Racer

32,307 posts

197 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Pah! Students, never done a days work in their lives.


They could have put the time to better use tidying their rooms up.

Vanden Saab

4,436 posts

24 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.
Not in the slightest bit annoying to this old codger. The sooner they understand that protesting is cold, thankless and pointless the better. I think teachers should be applauded for teaching them this important lesson so early in life.

Terminator X

8,442 posts

154 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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What temperature are they asking for?

TX.

PRTVR

5,095 posts

171 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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The thing is the kids do have the power to change things, the largest CO2 emitter by a mile is China, if they give up there phones and anything made in China it would be a start, it might be hard but it's for a good cause right ?

smartypants

42,774 posts

119 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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PRTVR said:
The thing is the kids do have the power to change things, the largest CO2 emitter by a mile is China, if they give up there phones and anything made in China it would be a start, it might be hard but it's for a good cause right ?
Actually the largest CO2 emitter is themselves.... and the long life they will have, they cars they will buy, the dogs they will own and the offspring they will have to do it all over again.

Am I allowed to suggest suicide as a solution?

garagewidow

970 posts

120 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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^Very much so,...erm not the suicide bit.

A,we are the problem.

Q,how are we going to save ourselves?

dandarez

10,781 posts

233 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Randy Winkman said:
Good on the kids. Nice to see them doing something interesting and annoying for boring old codgers.
You've learnt a lot in your short life to date, eh?
You should sit for a degree in Ageist ttness - I'm confident you'd get a First Class Honours.
laugh


turbobloke

88,015 posts

210 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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A translation, but an acceptably good and checkable translation.

http://www.stichting-jas.nl/2019/01/guus-berkhout-...


smartypants

42,774 posts

119 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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garagewidow said:
^Very much so,...erm not the suicide bit.

A,we are the problem.

Q,how are we going to save ourselves?
Suicide, genocide, or wait for the next war.

If you believe we’re the problem. Whatever the problem is exactly.




ninepoint2

2,193 posts

110 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Jasandjules said:
The first question is what climate change problem...
I believe it's a common myth perpetuated by Governments around the world as a justification to raise more tax, particularly from the poor already heavily taxed motorist wink

Edited by ninepoint2 on Friday 15th February 19:43