Cannabis safety report

[TurboHatchback]

I'm pro legalisation, I also think it causes a lot of harm particularly in young people. Weed is so universally available that I think legalisation would make little difference to usage levels and I think the regulation, labelling, tax income and reduction in criminal activity would more than outweigh any potential downsides. For reference I have never used weed myself and wouldn't start if it was legalised.

I've only known one heavy user, I lived with him at university for two years. He became more and more psychotic, graduated to stabbing the walls and his mattress with knives and then halfway through the second year was sectioned and disappeared. From what I gather many years later he is still a complete mess. It wasn't just weed that he took but I believe that to be the main issue. The casual users I have known have all been middle to low achievers who never really went anywhere or did much with their lives, they are getting by just fine but the sorts who still live in their home town working dead end jobs and spend all weekend in the local their entire lives.

[designforlife]

TurboHatchback said:

I've only known one heavy user, I lived with him at university for two years. He became more and more psychotic, graduated to stabbing the walls and his mattress with knives and then halfway through the second year was sectioned and disappeared. From what I gather many years later he is still a complete mess. It wasn't just weed that he took but I believe that to be the main issue. The casual users I have known have all been middle to low achievers who never really went anywhere or did much with their lives, they are getting by just fine but the sorts who still live in their home town working dead end jobs and spend all weekend in the local their entire lives.

I think this typical and somewhat outdated perception of users causes a lot of problems, broad strokes and all that... chances are you also know at least a few very successful well adjusted people who smoke it, but don't advertise the fact.

I'm not saying there isn't an element of users who very much fit into the bracket you talk about, but there are also many users who couldn't be further from the "stoner" stereotype....and I would include myself in that group.

I found out recently one of the guys i work with is also a smoker, but honestly would have had no idea had it not come up in conversation randomly one day.

[andy_s]

V6 Pushfit said:

designforlife said:

Pretty sure drinking a 1l bottle of vodka every night would do you some damage (mentally and physically)... 1 can of fosters every night...probably won't do any harm.

strength and potency is everything here... and some people completely fail to grasp this very simple concept.

That’s precisely why legalising it won’t get rid of the dealers. It’ll increase the accepted use, increase the number of users, and they will be doing the ‘it can’t harm me’ and want more strength than the sanitised Govt approved packs so go to the bloke in the shadows for it.
I hope legalisation never happens here, it’ll be a dark day for the UK and a darker one for the NHS following on....

They do that already. We're not starting from zero, we're starting from a point where anyone who wants to can anyway. People that take the ultra-strong stuff will carry on, I'm sure; they may, some of them, ruin their lives, but at least the moderate smoker won't run the risk of having his life ruined with a criminal conviction for the equivalent of a bottle of wine at the weekend.

The poor old NHS may be grateful for the odd billion in revenue though.

[TurboHatchback]

designforlife said:

TurboHatchback said:

I've only known one heavy user, I lived with him at university for two years. He became more and more psychotic, graduated to stabbing the walls and his mattress with knives and then halfway through the second year was sectioned and disappeared. From what I gather many years later he is still a complete mess. It wasn't just weed that he took but I believe that to be the main issue. The casual users I have known have all been middle to low achievers who never really went anywhere or did much with their lives, they are getting by just fine but the sorts who still live in their home town working dead end jobs and spend all weekend in the local their entire lives.

I think this typical and somewhat outdated perception of users causes a lot of problems, broad strokes and all that... chances are you also know at least a few very successful well adjusted people who smoke it, but don't advertise the fact.

I'm not saying there isn't an element of users who very much fit into the bracket you talk about, but there are also many users who couldn't be further from the "stoner" stereotype....and I would include myself in that group.

I found out recently one of the guys i work with is also a smoker, but honestly would have had no idea had it not come up in conversation randomly one day.

I'm sure there are, I'm just quoting my personal experiences. That's not even to say that the weed makes the person, it could equally be that the people who are like that anyway are just gravitate more to weed.