Gulf of Oman incidents

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Greshamst

1,092 posts

75 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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aeropilot said:
Times article stuff
Thanks for the C&V!

Interesting... I still find it so incredible in modern times when countries make acts of actual aggression against other countries

Countdown

27,462 posts

151 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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If this was a genuine Iranian attack the Saudis and the US would be screaming blue murder.

It isn't. They're painting a scenario where, in a few weeks time, they can "justify" bombing Iranian nuclear weapons sites, something that Bolton and his neo-con allies in Washington and Tel Aviv have been itching to do for years.

aeropilot

21,088 posts

182 months

Friday 14th June 2019
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Countdown said:
It isn't. They're painting a scenario where, in a few weeks time, they can "justify" bombing Iranian nuclear weapons sites, something that Bolton and his neo-con allies in Washington and Tel Aviv have been itching to do for years.
Bolton is a dangerous warmongering loose cannon..............and yet, he dodged the draft during the Vietnam war. Funny how he's quick to want to put the lives of US service personnel on the same line that he chose to avoid himself rolleyes

red_slr

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11,092 posts

144 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Further details are being reported that the US had a Reaper on over watch and there was an air to ground missile fired at it. Quite shocking given just how heavily populated the airspace is with civilian traffic in that area.


andy_s

16,526 posts

214 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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The Japanese owner says the ship was hit by a flying object.

Why is the US sticking its nose into Japanese and Norwegian business anyway? Are we about to see a new ’WMD flying limpet Mk II sinks Lusitania’ headlines soon...?

skyrover

12,374 posts

159 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Condi said:
Indeed, but who, and why?

Iran have nothing to gain from this, no terrorist group have taken responsibility, and the whole thing is just very confusing. As likely to be Saudi Arabia poking bears as anything else.
Not everyone in the Iranian government sings to the same tune.

Byker28i

25,322 posts

172 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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6th Gear said:
US military releases video of Iranian forces apparently trying to remove mine.

https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/us-military-...
And yet for a military video filmed there's no text on the screen, date/time etc

Byker28i

25,322 posts

172 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Countdown said:
If this was a genuine Iranian attack the Saudis and the US would be screaming blue murder.

It isn't. They're painting a scenario where, in a few weeks time, they can "justify" bombing Iranian nuclear weapons sites, something that Bolton and his neo-con allies in Washington and Tel Aviv have been itching to do for years.
...and of course, team trump owe the Saudi's and UAE for the election assistance, which is why they didn't want to do anything about Kashoggi's murder, Kushner continues his whatapp messages to MBS, trumps unilateral pull out of the Iran deal etc.

The question is, why ramp this up now? There were attacks on pipelines and 4 other ships in May when the US tried to lessen the tensions...

zb

1,452 posts

119 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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aeropilot said:
Greshamst said:
aeropilot said:
This article in The Times has offered up a possibly scenario about this.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/west-and-its-gu...
Paywall frown
Aah........fortunately, someone else has copied and pasted it to somewhere else wink

Times said:
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Thanks for posting.

I'm a long time buyer and reader of The Times, mostly at the weekend. I realise the Times is viewed as right of the political spectrum, this does not represent my views. However, I'm a buyer/reader due to the overall quality of journalism, suffice to say I don't always agree with content or their journalists' views e.g. Matthew Parris, although I can often understand how they arrive at their point of view.

That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.

aeropilot

21,088 posts

182 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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zb said:
That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.
I guess you read a different article to me then - as I'm struggling to see anything pro-orangeman in that piece?




Countdown

27,462 posts

151 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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aeropilot said:
zb said:
That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.
I guess you read a different article to me then - as I'm struggling to see anything pro-orangeman in that piece?
Maybe not Pro-Trump, but definitely pro-Neocon/PNAC.

zb

1,452 posts

119 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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aeropilot said:
zb said:
That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.
I guess you read a different article to me then - as I'm struggling to see anything pro-orangeman in that piece?
War with Iran is being pushed by Trump's crew, it's a long time aim of John Bolton, and Mike Pompeo has been touring "allies" to try to whip up support for action for the past few months. The reason it is Trumpian propaganda is; a war President is re-elected. Which would be convenient as his polling is disastrous at the moment. That's always assuming Republican gerrymandering and further Russian interference doesn't get him over the line.

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As an addendum: That Times piece is something I'd expect to hear on Fox "News", I realise Murdoch owns both, up to now they've never converged in tone like this.

Edited by zb on Saturday 15th June 14:59

honest_delboy

1,222 posts

155 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Where's Steven Seagal when you need him ? He'll fix their wagons (boats).

grumbledoak

26,078 posts

188 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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andy_s said:
The Japanese owner says the ship was hit by a flying object.
yes Crew report flying object(s) and hit above the water line. Not mines.

Obvious false flag is obvious. Not that it matters much, you have to be willfully blind not to see the pattern.

"It's comin' right for us!" Blam.


dudleybloke

15,548 posts

141 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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I've got a Persian cat.
Do I have to worry about it being a sleeper agent?

Countdown

27,462 posts

151 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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honest_delboy said:
Where's Steven Seagal when you need him ? He'll fix their wagons (boats).
What can he do? He's just a cook.......


honest_delboy

1,222 posts

155 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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He also cooks

texaxile

2,344 posts

105 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Countdown said:
What can he do? He's just a cock.......

Fixed.

BlackLabel

12,468 posts

78 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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Right on cue.


“Gulf of Oman tanker attacks: Saudi Arabia urges 'decisive' response”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48648...

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

12,317 posts

124 months

Saturday 15th June 2019
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grumbledoak said:
andy_s said:
The Japanese owner says the ship was hit by a flying object.
yes Crew report flying object(s) and hit above the water line. Not mines.

Obvious false flag is obvious. Not that it matters much, you have to be willfully blind not to see the pattern.

"It's comin' right for us!" Blam.
Don’t get the media started on drones again hehe