Gulf of Oman incidents

[Greshamst]

aeropilot said:

Times article stuff

Thanks for the C&V!

Interesting... I still find it so incredible in modern times when countries make acts of actual aggression against other countries

[Countdown]

If this was a genuine Iranian attack the Saudis and the US would be screaming blue murder.

It isn't. They're painting a scenario where, in a few weeks time, they can "justify" bombing Iranian nuclear weapons sites, something that Bolton and his neo-con allies in Washington and Tel Aviv have been itching to do for years.

[aeropilot]

Countdown said:

It isn't. They're painting a scenario where, in a few weeks time, they can "justify" bombing Iranian nuclear weapons sites, something that Bolton and his neo-con allies in Washington and Tel Aviv have been itching to do for years.

Bolton is a dangerous warmongering loose cannon..............and yet, he dodged the draft during the Vietnam war. Funny how he's quick to want to put the lives of US service personnel on the same line that he chose to avoid himself

[red_slr]

Further details are being reported that the US had a Reaper on over watch and there was an air to ground missile fired at it. Quite shocking given just how heavily populated the airspace is with civilian traffic in that area.

[andy_s]

The Japanese owner says the ship was hit by a flying object.

Why is the US sticking its nose into Japanese and Norwegian business anyway? Are we about to see a new ’WMD flying limpet Mk II sinks Lusitania’ headlines soon...?

[skyrover]

Condi said:

Indeed, but who, and why?

Iran have nothing to gain from this, no terrorist group have taken responsibility, and the whole thing is just very confusing. As likely to be Saudi Arabia poking bears as anything else.

Not everyone in the Iranian government sings to the same tune.

[Byker28i]

6th Gear said:

US military releases video of Iranian forces apparently trying to remove mine.

https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/us-military-...

And yet for a military video filmed there's no text on the screen, date/time etc

[Byker28i]

Countdown said:

If this was a genuine Iranian attack the Saudis and the US would be screaming blue murder.

It isn't. They're painting a scenario where, in a few weeks time, they can "justify" bombing Iranian nuclear weapons sites, something that Bolton and his neo-con allies in Washington and Tel Aviv have been itching to do for years.

...and of course, team trump owe the Saudi's and UAE for the election assistance, which is why they didn't want to do anything about Kashoggi's murder, Kushner continues his whatapp messages to MBS, trumps unilateral pull out of the Iran deal etc.

The question is, why ramp this up now? There were attacks on pipelines and 4 other ships in May when the US tried to lessen the tensions...

[zb]

aeropilot said:

Greshamst said:

aeropilot said:

This article in The Times has offered up a possibly scenario about this.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/west-and-its-gu...

Paywall

Aah........fortunately, someone else has copied and pasted it to somewhere else

Times said:

<snip.

Thanks for posting.

I'm a long time buyer and reader of The Times, mostly at the weekend. I realise the Times is viewed as right of the political spectrum, this does not represent my views. However, I'm a buyer/reader due to the overall quality of journalism, suffice to say I don't always agree with content or their journalists' views e.g. Matthew Parris, although I can often understand how they arrive at their point of view.

That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.

[aeropilot]

zb said:

That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.

I guess you read a different article to me then - as I'm struggling to see anything pro-orangeman in that piece?

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aeropilot said:

zb said:

That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.

I guess you read a different article to me then - as I'm struggling to see anything pro-orangeman in that piece?

Maybe not Pro-Trump, but definitely pro-Neocon/PNAC.

[zb]

aeropilot said:

zb said:

That is an absolutely pathetic piece of unverifiable drivel posted above, they ought to be ashed of themselves vomiting Trumpian propaganda. Perhaps I've been naive all these years, but I have never witnessed Murdoch's fingerprints all over a piece like this. Utterly despicable.

I guess you read a different article to me then - as I'm struggling to see anything pro-orangeman in that piece?

War with Iran is being pushed by Trump's crew, it's a long time aim of John Bolton, and Mike Pompeo has been touring "allies" to try to whip up support for action for the past few months. The reason it is Trumpian propaganda is; a war President is re-elected. Which would be convenient as his polling is disastrous at the moment. That's always assuming Republican gerrymandering and further Russian interference doesn't get him over the line.

edit:

As an addendum: That Times piece is something I'd expect to hear on Fox "News", I realise Murdoch owns both, up to now they've never converged in tone like this.

Edited by zb on Saturday 15th June 14:59

[honest_delboy]

Where's Steven Seagal when you need him ? He'll fix their wagons (boats).

[grumbledoak]

andy_s said:

The Japanese owner says the ship was hit by a flying object.

Crew report flying object(s) and hit above the water line. Not mines.

Obvious false flag is obvious. Not that it matters much, you have to be willfully blind not to see the pattern.

"It's comin' right for us!" Blam.

[dudleybloke]

I've got a Persian cat.
Do I have to worry about it being a sleeper agent?

[Countdown]

honest_delboy said:

Where's Steven Seagal when you need him ? He'll fix their wagons (boats).

What can he do? He's just a cook.......

[honest_delboy]

He also cooks

[texaxile]

Countdown said:

What can he do? He's just a cock.......

Fixed.

[BlackLabel]

Right on cue.


“Gulf of Oman tanker attacks: Saudi Arabia urges 'decisive' response”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48648...

[Baby Shark doo doo doo doo]

grumbledoak said:

andy_s said:

The Japanese owner says the ship was hit by a flying object.

Crew report flying object(s) and hit above the water line. Not mines.

Obvious false flag is obvious. Not that it matters much, you have to be willfully blind not to see the pattern.

"It's comin' right for us!" Blam.

Don’t get the media started on drones again