46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

46th President of the United States, Joe Biden

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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928 GTS said:
purplepenguin said:
Not keen on my enquiry idea then? Moon landing thing is just a poor deflection and doesn’t answer the question.
Moon landing thing is not a deflection. Its illustration on how moronic many Trump supporters are. No matter who does what only result they will accept is Trump victory. Votes can be counted 1000 more times and nothing changes as long as result doesn't change. And it will not change when count is done properly. It was already done properly and they can't accept result. Seems this includes you also.
No, it is a deflection and is just something you wish to connect. Biden still has to govern all of the USA, trump supporters included.

His administration is already finding out that it’s much more difficult to be the ones in power.

I only suggested that a transparent enquiry may help. It was nothing to do with a recount.

You obviously have a different viewpoint which is fine but you and others always come out with the same retort and personal accusations. “Seems this includes you also” - do you think I’m concerned with what you think?

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
JeffreyD said:
Is he refusing to deliver or unable to?
Can he issue an executive order for this?


And I presume this is down to the filibuster promise by the Republicans?

Three questions, no answers. Sorry about that.
When a politician seeking votes promises to deliver something in return, the electorate is entitled to expect two things; firstly that if he receives the votes he will be in a position to deliver and secondly, in that position, he will.

Biden made a promise, people voted for him on that basis, and in little over a month the pledge is dust.
The games politicians play, eh?

The American people voted for a finely balanced legislature, so they must expect some compromise.(or the reasonable ones will) - I do wonder if he will get a proper majority in the mid terms.

Is this why trump couldn't build his wall or deliver the medical reforms? Or pull the troops out of the middle east? Or was that another reason?
The US system is a bit of conundrum at times.

Quisling

539 posts

40 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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captain_cynic said:
Biden has accomplished more as the US president than Trump did in 4 years.
Apart from in the services to comedy

In that respect he is well behind Trump

No way will we ever reach the heady heights of the 4 seasons landscaping press conference

PRTVR

7,128 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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silentbrown said:
PRTVR said:
Do you think its a good idea to allow ballot papers without recognisable signatures ?
When did you last sign a ballot paper?

Tell me about the 40% to 80% turnout increase. Where was that?
Last time I voted, ( postal vote) I have just had a request for an update of my signature for their records.
The details about ballot discrepancies was from here.

https://youtu.be/gDb7uQ76oJU

Apologies for subjecting you to the presenters, they are annoying hehe but you can limit your exposure by fast forwarding to 20 minutes where they start discussing the data from Michigan .

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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JeffreyD said:
The games politicians play, eh?

The American people voted for a finely balanced legislature, so they must expect some compromise.(or the reasonable ones will) - I do wonder if he will get a proper majority in the mid terms.

Is this why trump couldn't build his wall or deliver the medical reforms? Or pull the troops out of the middle east? Or was that another reason?
The US system is a bit of conundrum at times.
I suspect millions of low paid workers voted for him specifically on the promise their wages would enjoy a significant hike. They'll no doubt be disappointed.

928 GTS

468 posts

96 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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purplepenguin said:
do you think I’m concerned with what you think?
No, you clearly are concerned on pedalling election fraud narrative. Transparent enquiry is just another new word for it.

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
I suspect millions of low paid workers voted for him specifically on the promise their wages would enjoy a significant hike. They'll no doubt be disappointed.
Disappointed in the republicans for stopping the presidential agenda?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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JeffreyD said:
Disappointed in the republicans for stopping the presidential agenda?
Was it their promise to introduce it?

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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PRTVR said:
The details about ballot discrepancies was from here.

https://youtu.be/gDb7uQ76oJU
So your source is a Steven Crowder YouTube video?

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

41 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
JeffreyD said:
Disappointed in the republicans for stopping the presidential agenda?
Was it their promise to introduce it?
It's their actions stopping it.

It's almost as if you are acussing people of being too thick to understand what's actually happening.

Naughty Joe, bad democrats.

Anyway, that's me done, enjoy your evening I need to read up on Operation Sealion in time for tomorrow.

Edited by JeffreyD on Tuesday 2nd March 21:29

HM-2

12,467 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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JeffreyD said:
It's their actions stopping it.
Totally bizarre isn't it? A bit like blaming Obama for the failure to institute proper universal healthcare.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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928 GTS said:
purplepenguin said:
do you think I’m concerned with what you think?
No, you clearly are concerned on pedalling election fraud narrative. Transparent enquiry is just another new word for it.
Please quote where I have called voter fraud

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Blaming the opposition for the failure of Biden to achieve a manifesto pledge, is illogical.

PRTVR

7,128 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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HM-2 said:
PRTVR said:
The details about ballot discrepancies was from here.

https://youtu.be/gDb7uQ76oJU
So your source is a Steven Crowder YouTube video?
Yes and unlike some YouTube sites links are provided to his sources.


https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/show-notes-new-m...

kowalski655

14,660 posts

144 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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HM-2 said:
JeffreyD said:
It's their actions stopping it.
Totally bizarre isn't it? A bit like blaming Obama for the failure to institute proper universal healthcare.
And dont forget Machin & Sinema, DINOs both. Being able to hold the Dems to ransom.
They really cannot do the right thing can they!
Same with the GOP. The VAST majority of their constituents want $15, yet they dont give a damn about them.

rscott

14,779 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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PRTVR said:
HM-2 said:
PRTVR said:
The details about ballot discrepancies was from here.

https://youtu.be/gDb7uQ76oJU
So your source is a Steven Crowder YouTube video?
Yes and unlike some YouTube sites links are provided to his sources.


https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/show-notes-new-m...
He makes a claim that 6,000 votes were flipped by a software error..

"A glitch in Antrim County flipped 6,000 votes blue when the clerk forgot to update the software.

47 other Michigan counties used this same Dominion software.*

But the source he links to confirms that
"Antrim County uses voting machines supplied by Dominion Voting Systems. The same equipment is
used by most Michigan counties, especially smaller ones. But the state said the software problem was not related to the Dominion voting equipment. Antrim receives programming support from another company, Election Source, the agency said."

He references "Early morning after election night there was a huge dump of ballots for Biden: 150,000 votes in the batch, but less than 6,000 for Trump," the source being a now deleted tweet.


Or the 70% of poll books being out of balance apparently is a major issue.. except it was 72% in the previous election and no one complained.
The errors were tiny too - between 1 and 4 votes per poll book
https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/202...

silentbrown

8,868 posts

117 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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PRTVR said:
The details about ballot discrepancies was from here.

https://youtu.be/gDb7uQ76oJU
I'm not going to sit through 1:40mins of that, and I hope you didn't either.

His main "point" around the 20 minute part is a just a misunderstanding of what the City of Detroit numbers mean. Absentee ballots aren't tallied against precincts, but "counting boards". Absentee votes aren't shown in the first section (hence the low on-the-day turnouts)

Nothing in the segment I bothered with claimed turnout had changed from 40% to 80% anywhere.

As for signed ballots, all states already require a signature on absentee ballots. Some states require those signatures to be validated against other ID, and - critically - not all states that do validate signatures will inform a voter if the signature isn't a close enough match, thus allowing them to 'cure' their ballot.


Tartan Pixie

2,208 posts

148 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Iran considering EU-hosted nuclear deal talks with US: https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/202...

Iran's position is that America needs to return to the deal before talks can start which I assume is general high balling before negotiations start and wouldn't read too much in to it. America's position is, um, unknown?

Biden has stated a willingness to return to the JCPOA but things have moved on in the last four years with the SA/UAE/Israel alliance, Houthies now lobbing missiles in to Saudi on a semi regular basis, China financially supportive of Iran, Assad more secure than he was and general sh!tbaggery by Iranian proxies.

What a Biden administration decides to make of these changes remains to be seen but it's looking like much of the diplomatic legwork will be done in Brussels as a place where lower level diplomats can meet without having spurious assertions thrown about by the media.

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Talking of spurious assertions thrown about by the media the recent exchange of rockets and airstrikes between between Iranian proxies and US forces hasn't half has some drivel written about it, almost exclusively for the purpose of domestic tittle tattle.

The exchanges in Iraq have been going on for years and of course Iranian proxies were going to welcome a new president with some rockets, it would be rude not to. The American response will have been designed by commanders in the Middle east to discourage repeat offences and remind Iran that a change in president does not suddenly make the American military a soft target.

This is all stuff that will be decided by the relevant brass and tells us almost nothing about what Biden's strategy will be in the middle east, I say almost because there is one observation I can pull from all this and that's that Biden is not going to be bounced in to acting hastily.

IMO Biden has sore spot about the way in which America was drawn in to the Lybian and Syrian conflicts and Obama is on record saying this is one of the biggest regrets of this presidency. On a personal level it's also got to have hurt seeing the JCPOA torn up and the result which was to force Iran in to china's sphere and empower the hardliners in Iran who not only won last year's parliamentary elections but are also likely to win this year's presidential elections. For this reason I think Biden will move slowly and be looking for lasting solutions rather than quick fixes.

gregs656

10,923 posts

182 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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PRTVR said:
Do you think its a good idea to allow ballot papers without recognisable signatures ?
As I said earlier everything in America is polarised.
I don’t recall ever signing a ballot, or presenting ID to vote.

All this stuff is the Republicans complaining their voter obstruction was somewhat undermined thanks to COVID.

They need to get their st together over the minimum wage though.

Edited by gregs656 on Wednesday 3rd March 02:45

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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gregs656 said:
PRTVR said:
Do you think its a good idea to allow ballot papers without recognisable signatures ?
As I said earlier everything in America is polarised.
I don’t recall ever signing a ballot, or presenting ID to vote.

All this stuff is the Republicans complaining their voter obstruction was somewhat undermined thanks to COVID.

They need to get their st together over the minimum wage though.

Edited by gregs656 on Wednesday 3rd March 02:45
They won’t