How many have been vaccinated so far?

[Welshbeef]

Daily vaccination rates are stepping up progressively too so we cannot easily project out (unless we know the dates when each step up is expected).




Also wasting time to calculate out what it may or may not be and then go to govt to try to bash them again is pointless.

[Camoradi]

In other news, marathon runner criticized for falling behind in the first 5 metres of race

[Muncher]

vaud said:

I wouldn't take the current daily rate as the forecast average rate.

Of course not, but it still seems a fairly slow start given we have the weight of the entire country to throw behind this and have been planning for it for 9 months.

In the 2019 flu season we were vaccinating approximately 155,000 people per day.

[vaud]

Muncher said:

Of course not, but it still seems a fairly slow start given we have the weight of the entire country to throw behind this and have been planning for it for 9 months.

In the 2019 flu season we were vaccinating approximately 155,000 people per day.

Personally I'll wait a few weeks before forming a view. The flu vaccine doesn't need the same logistics.

[Downward]

vaud said:

Muncher said:

Of course not, but it still seems a fairly slow start given we have the weight of the entire country to throw behind this and have been planning for it for 9 months.

In the 2019 flu season we were vaccinating approximately 155,000 people per day.

Personally I'll wait a few weeks before forming a view. The flu vaccine doesn't need the same logistics.

And it’s more freely available.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Camoradi said:

In other news, marathon runner criticized for falling behind in the first 5 metres of race

Well he did promise he would take the lead from the start, and indeed is still claiming to be in the lead even though we can all see he isn't. And given that in all other similar races he's said he's won when he's clearly lost badly, you can understand why so many are sceptical.

[alangla]

yajeed said:

I don’t know the numbers, but certainly in our local PCN they’ve been fully booked up and flat out vaccinating people.

My other half walked 18k yesterday to get people safely from the car park to the surgery, make sure they were comfortable while waiting etc

That's a hell of a big car park.

[steveo3002]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Camoradi said:

In other news, marathon runner criticized for falling behind in the first 5 metres of race

Well he did promise he would take the lead from the start, and indeed is still claiming to be in the lead even though we can all see he isn't. And given that in all other similar races he's said he's won when he's clearly lost badly, you can understand why so many are sceptical.

and he's so thick he didnt realise his shoe laces were tied together , turned up at the wrong race track on the wrong day lol

Edited by steveo3002 on Wednesday 16th December 13:06

[Welshbeef]

Muncher said:

Of course not, but it still seems a fairly slow start given we have the weight of the entire country to throw behind this and have been planning for it for 9 months.

In the 2019 flu season we were vaccinating approximately 155,000 people per day.

1. We don’t have that much absolute supply
2. It’s not supplied all in one go
3. There is a 15minute wait after the jab to check for any issues
4. Storage
5. It’s a much bigger needle diameter than flu jab and a lot more volume going into the muscle

[JagLover]

vaud said:

Muncher said:

Of course not, but it still seems a fairly slow start given we have the weight of the entire country to throw behind this and have been planning for it for 9 months.

In the 2019 flu season we were vaccinating approximately 155,000 people per day.

Personally I'll wait a few weeks before forming a view. The flu vaccine doesn't need the same logistics.

For starters I doubt it needs to be stored at -70C!

[Sophisticated Sarah]

It’s not bad going for the first week. I’m guessing those figures include the early week where I guess it was starting sporadically too? We’ll have a better idea of stabs per day in late January once Christmas is out the way and they’re into a rhythm.

While I think the government reaction to Covid has been and continues to be ridiculous, it’s quite clear that the at-risk groups (elderly, heart issues etc) do need protection. Fingers crossed for success and that the side effects are minimal

[vaud]

JagLover said:

For starters I doubt it needs to be stored at -70C!

Indeed.

Plus in schools you can just line kids up and it is a nasal spray for flu... can do hundreds per day.

[JmatthewB]

Hopefully 150,000 vaccinations per day will be doable once the Oxford vaccine is approved. But even at that rate it will still take 3-4 months to vaccinate the 20 million or so clinically at risk.

About 80% of deaths seem to be of those 75 years and over. There's about 5 million people over 75 so that could be done by mid to late January if they pull their fingers out. Going in to February things might start to look very different. You might even be allowed to go the the pub!

[yajeed]

Muncher said:

Of course not, but it still seems a fairly slow start given we have the weight of the entire country to throw behind this and have been planning for it for 9 months.

In the 2019 flu season we were vaccinating approximately 155,000 people per day.

That's so far from the truth it's difficult to know where to start.

A few questions for you Muncher:

1) When do you think the government asked PCNs to prepare to deliver a vaccine?
2) When do you think the detail of that request was provided?
3) Since this is an opt-in service for the providers, when was for first specification of what was required provided?
4) When was the first contract shown to those providers?

Clue: Don't answer in months. Days would be a good demonination, but may not be specific enough.

Would you be willing to offer your services to do this quicker, because having seen this first hand, I know there is no way I could do a better job.

Edited by yajeed on Wednesday 16th December 11:58

[yajeed]

alangla said:

That's a hell of a big car park.

It's a tiny car park. Mostly involved trying to get pensioners to park sensibly - lots of running around, therefore.

[yajeed]

Sophisticated Sarah said:

It’s not bad going for the first week. I’m guessing those figures include the early week where I guess it was starting sporadically too? We’ll have a better idea of stabs per day in late January once Christmas is out the way and they’re into a rhythm.

While I think the government reaction to Covid has been and continues to be ridiculous, it’s quite clear that the at-risk groups (elderly, heart issues etc) do need protection. Fingers crossed for success and that the side effects are minimal

They've not had a week either, most started vaccinating yesterday.

[Muncher]

yajeed said:

That's so far from the truth it's difficult to know where to start.

Couple of questions for you Muncher:

1) When do you think the government asked PCNs to prepare to deliver a vaccine?
2) When do you think the detail of that request was provided?
3) Since this is an opt-in service for the providers, when was for first specification of what was required provided?
4) When was the first contract shown to those providers?

Clue: Don't answer in months. Days would be a good demonination, but may not be specific enough.

I am not blaming those at the stabby end, the point was from about March onwards it would have been apparent we would need to be rolling this out at some point.

I know local authorities were setting up sites for mass vaccination on 13 November so I would hope that the wheels were in motion on the delivery side by then, but that's precisely my point, I doubt they were.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

steveo3002 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Camoradi said:

In other news, marathon runner criticized for falling behind in the first 5 metres of race

Well he did promise he would take the lead from the start, and indeed is still claiming to be in the lead even though we can all see he isn't. And given that in all other similar races he's said he's won when he's clearly lost badly, you can understand why so many are sceptical.

and he's so thick he didnt realise his shoe laces were tied together , turned up and the wrong race track on the wrong day lol

Indeed, and got the race coordinator pregnant.

[andy43]

Our PCN said:

We are extremely pleased to offer the COVID vaccine to our patients but the logistics of delivering it
are challenging. Vaccines will be delivered to our vaccination site with only a 10 day notice period.
We will then need to administer the 975 doses of the vaccine within a 3days window period. We will
be relying on staff (doctors, nurses, health care assistants and admin) from all our PCN practices to
help staff our vaccination site.
As a result you may find that appointment availability at the surgery is reduced. The wait for
appointments may be longer than normal, appointments may need to be rearranged at short notice
and responding to queries may also take longer. We would like to reassure you that the practice will
continue to be open and will maintain its normal opening hours.
Please do not call the surgery regarding your COVID vaccine. The vaccines are being rolled out with
patients being placed in different priority groups. You will contacted( if you are eligible )directly
when your vaccine is available. Further information will be available on our website soon, including
details of the COVID vaccination advice helpline.

We got this earlier in the week. Our GPs are genuinely great.
Massive logistical challenge and to continue existing care will be impossible.
If it were me I'd be getting the Army on it.

[London424]

Just posted on the other thread but just walking home and noticed a vaccination centre has been set up near me (Surrey). There were at least 10 in a queue outside in the cold and rain with more and more cars pulling up to drop people off.

Seems like it’s ramping up the rollout.