Coronavirus - Data Analysis Thread

Coronavirus - Data Analysis Thread

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QuartzDad

2,264 posts

123 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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The Government data dashboard now includes 7 day PCR positivity rates which presumably ameliorates the 'more testing, more cases' effect. Only works at nation level currently - this is for England:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/testing?ar...



Elysium

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13,865 posts

188 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Well spotted. This is essentially the same curve as my 'cases per 100k tests' graph.

Unfortunately its only for England at the moment.

QuartzDad

2,264 posts

123 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Elysium said:
Well spotted. This is essentially the same curve as my 'cases per 100k tests' graph.

Unfortunately its only for England at the moment.
The 'About' also explains how it attempts to de-dup multiple tests and/or positives for the same person, I wonder if there is a different level of de-dup in the raw cases/positives numbers?

LimJim

2,274 posts

43 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Can I just double check you are using xlsx?

Terminator X

15,129 posts

205 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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steveT350C said:
Good call

eta:

Quoting Spruce Goose from the cure thread,

“ Heart disease, cancer, etc. Deaths are surprisingly down this year. Cv19 deaths are up, people that die at home are up.

The average age of cv19 deaths is 82, 1 year younger than normal average death age.

Hospitals are overwhelmed, but surprisingly no different to last 20 years.”


Having the above’s data, and indeed all relevant data, packaged and presented in an easily shared and understood format has to be done.

I’ll build a PowerPoint presentation based on what gets posted here.

Edited by steveT350C on Sunday 20th December 15:01
It is frustrating albeit not surprising that simple facts and figures re so hard to find re Covid. If only either the Govt or the media (perish the thought) just presented all the adults with facts then let us risk assess for ourselves spin

TX.

coanda

2,644 posts

191 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Bill

52,861 posts

256 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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bigandclever said:
steveT350C said:
Quoting Spruce Goose from the cure thread,

The average age of cv19 deaths is 82, 1 year younger than normal average death age.
I know we said ‘no arguments’, but the average Covid death age is 82.4; the average non-Covid death age is 81.5.

So average covid-death age is older, not younger.
That makes sense, very few under 50 have died of Covid.

Jevvy

232 posts

170 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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This chap does some excellent work with the data and adds some observations / questions too.

https://twitter.com/RealJoelSmalley

A few of his recent charts copied below.


















Otispunkmeyer

12,619 posts

156 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Has anyone seen any US thanks giving data? Just seen anecdotes about how the prognosis was more more more death and despair if people meet up for Thanksgiving. But they did and the data suggests otherwise...

Elysium

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13,865 posts

188 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Has anyone seen any US thanks giving data? Just seen anecdotes about how the prognosis was more more more death and despair if people meet up for Thanksgiving. But they did and the data suggests otherwise...
US and EU27 fatalities per million from the datagraver website:


bigandclever

13,810 posts

239 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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That’s not data, it’s a terrible, unintelligible chart.

Elysium

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13,865 posts

188 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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coanda

2,644 posts

191 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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bigandclever said:
That’s not data, it’s a terrible, unintelligible chart.
Let's see your attempt at answering Otis' question then.

bigandclever

13,810 posts

239 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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coanda said:
bigandclever said:
That’s not data, it’s a terrible, unintelligible chart.
Let's see your attempt at answering Otis' question then.
It’s unreadable. Maybe it was great on the poster’s screen, but by the time it gets to mine it’s illegible.

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BlackTails

620 posts

56 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Elysium

Original Poster:

13,865 posts

188 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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bigandclever said:
coanda said:
bigandclever said:
That’s not data, it’s a terrible, unintelligible chart.
Let's see your attempt at answering Otis' question then.
It’s unreadable. Maybe it was great on the poster’s screen, but by the time it gets to mine it’s illegible.

eg

You have clicked on it once to open it in thumbsnap. Click on it again to make it high res. It’s how the image hosting here works unfortunately. The link to the website that produced it is earlier in the thread.

bigandclever

13,810 posts

239 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Elysium said:
You have clicked on it once to open it in thumbsnap. Click on it again to make it high res. It’s how the image hosting here works unfortunately. The link to the website that produced it is earlier in the thread.
Bloody hell, ok, user error smile

Elysium

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13,865 posts

188 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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Thin White Duke

2,339 posts

161 months

Monday 21st December 2020
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The graphs made and posted by some of the members, in particular Elysium have been great. However all the information used is readily available to the public, even the BBC have produced graphs which show the "real picture."

It just seems that Joe public doesn't much care to look into these things for themselves and only take in the doom mongering graphs presented by Whitty and Valance.

Anyway keep up the good work guys.

Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months