47th President of the United States - Donald Trump

47th President of the United States - Donald Trump

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Mortarboard

7,758 posts

63 months

Friday 29th November
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Yeah, it'll be the lefts fault for not running a better campaign or sonething.....

M.

handpaper

1,415 posts

211 months

Friday 29th November
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Countdown said:
IMHO Trump and his band of musketeers will turn a lot of things to st and then walk away to let others pick up the pieces. He'll then walk away, boasting about what a great job he's done, how the US is the greatest it's ever been and how the Radical Evil Left are trying to destroy things. Was he bankrup 5 times or 6? No sane electorate would vote in somebody so demonstrably incompetent at business. However he's exceptionally competent at bullstting stupid people.
Sorry, what does that have to do with what Paul and I were discussing?

And FYI, six businesses (out of ~100) with which Trump was involved have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection over the last forty years. That isn't actually a bad record for a businessman. He has never declared personal bankruptcy.

Mortarboard

7,758 posts

63 months

Friday 29th November
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handpaper said:
Sorry, what does that have to do with what Paul and I were discussing?

And FYI, six businesses (out of ~100) with which Trump was involved have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection over the last forty years. That isn't actually a bad record for a businessman. He has never declared personal bankruptcy.
He is, however, banned from ever running a charity, and picked up a rico conviction for trump university.

M.

suthol

2,359 posts

242 months

Friday 29th November
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handpaper said:
And FYI, six businesses (out of ~100) with which Trump was involved have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection over the last forty years. That isn't actually a bad record for a businessman. He has never declared personal bankruptcy.
The beauty of a Limited Liability Company.

Pay yourself or suitable shelf company a decent wage while the company goes to hell in a handbasket leaving ruins behind

handpaper

1,415 posts

211 months

Saturday 30th November
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suthol said:
The beauty of a Limited Liability Company.

Pay yourself or suitable shelf company a decent wage while the company goes to hell in a handbasket leaving ruins behind
And the flip side is the freedom to try out new ideas and business models without the risk of personal ruin. Which leads to innovation, quality of life improvements, wealth, and other things that politicians boast of and tax.

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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Catatafish said:
I'm sure most of you has heard the amusing ramblings from Harris.

Sounds like she is having a very happy thanksgiving.

There's always next time... The work must continues!
The one where she spent Thanksgiving helping charity meals with DC Central kitchen?
https://x.com/i/status/1862667296172646768


And trump issued another rant?

and Musk the father of 12 children spent Thanksgiving with trump...

Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 30th November 07:02

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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Mortarboard said:
handpaper said:
Sorry, what does that have to do with what Paul and I were discussing?

And FYI, six businesses (out of ~100) with which Trump was involved have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection over the last forty years. That isn't actually a bad record for a businessman. He has never declared personal bankruptcy.
He is, however, banned from ever running a charity, and picked up a rico conviction for trump university.

M.
Not ignoring the two cases of business fraud for trump org, the huge number of failed businesses, the over 4000 legal cases, the over $400m his dad bailed him out woth...
His properties have huge loans against them, hardly the massive sucess trying to be made out.

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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Countdown said:
handpaper said:
paulguitar said:
I read the Rolling Stone article and it didn't strike me as a 'nothing burger'.

In particular Musk quote-tweeted a post highlighting the role of a woman who works as a “Director of Climate Diversification” at the U.S. International Development Finance Corp with the remark 'So many fake jobs'. The employee in question, who holds degrees in engineering, business, and water science from Oxford and MIT, serves a 'highly technical role focused on identifying innovative solutions to help protect American agriculture and infrastructure from the effects of natural disasters'.


She's now shut down her social media accounts.


Musk appears out of his depth and, at the very least, deeply ignorant.
Hmmm. scratchchin

Smells like Rolling Stone is trying to justify the job as benefiting American taxpayers, when in reality it is an abstruse component of the foreign aid bureaucracy.
Either way, it doesn't matter. The incoming administration will have its own priorities, and it doesn't look like her role is a good fit with them.
IMHO Trump and his band of musketeers will turn a lot of things to st and then walk away to let others pick up the pieces. He'll then walk away, boasting about what a great job he's done, how the US is the greatest it's ever been and how the Radical Evil Left are trying to destroy things. Was he bankrup 5 times or 6? No sane electorate would vote in somebody so demonstrably incompetent at business. However he's exceptionally competent at bullstting stupid people.
The real problem will be with his health picks, vaccine deniers, alternative medicine pushers, trump saying they would fund schools that demanded kids be vaccinated...because we saw how well trump dealt with the last pandemic

Edit:

Trump’s former FDA commissioner warns RFK Jr. could ‘cost lives’ if confirmed
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/11/29/s...

Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 30th November 07:18

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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The NYT has obtained an email that Pete Hegseth’s mom sent to her son in 2018.

In the email, Penelope Hegseth refers to her son as “an abuser of women.”

“I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth.”

In an interview with the New York Times, Penelope Hegseth says she regrets sending the email to her son.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/politics/pet...

Edited by Byker28i on Saturday 30th November 07:09

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Wheelspinning said:
either way a bullet dodged.
Into the path of cannonball covered in st.

Great move America.
I'm reminded of the Mark Twain quote: No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

Countdown

42,192 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th November
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Out of interest what are RFK’s views on chlorinated chicken and steroid infused beef?

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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Ohio AG appealing against the ruling restricting the abortion ban they wanted.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ohio-attorney-...

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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Texas Governor Greg Abbott has threatened a children’s hospital with withdrawing funding because one doctors video went viral saying that patients are required to say if they are US Citizens.

On November 1, a new executive order went into effect requiring Texas hospitals that accept Medicaid or Children’s Health Insurance Plan to ask patients if they’re US citizens.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/...

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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Where are the Project 2025 deniers now - Shady etc, who during the campaign, believed trump and pushed that trump “nothing to do with” Project 2025, despite all the evidence given, especially now that trump is filling his team with everyone tied to project 2025 and promising to implement the policies from day 1?

"trump has dropped all pretense and is charging ahead hand in hand with the right-wing industry players shaping an agenda he denied for the whole campaign,”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/politics/tru...
https://archive.is/q844v

Byker28i

68,360 posts

225 months

Saturday 30th November
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Countdown said:
Out of interest what are RFK’s views on chlorinated chicken and steroid infused beef?
As far as I'm aware he hasn't voiced one specifically but has when campaigning for potus said he would reduce chemicals usage in growing foods

captain_cynic

13,414 posts

103 months

Saturday 30th November
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Byker28i said:
Countdown said:
Out of interest what are RFK’s views on chlorinated chicken and steroid infused beef?
As far as I'm aware he hasn't voiced one specifically but has when campaigning for potus said he would reduce chemicals usage in growing foods
That would mean a fundamental change in the way the US does agriculture, also means going up against the likes of Monsanto. I doubt very much that will happen once they rent a few suites in the Trump hotel.

tangerine_sedge

5,201 posts

226 months

Saturday 30th November
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handpaper said:
Countdown said:
IMHO Trump and his band of musketeers will turn a lot of things to st and then walk away to let others pick up the pieces. He'll then walk away, boasting about what a great job he's done, how the US is the greatest it's ever been and how the Radical Evil Left are trying to destroy things. Was he bankrup 5 times or 6? No sane electorate would vote in somebody so demonstrably incompetent at business. However he's exceptionally competent at bullstting stupid people.
Sorry, what does that have to do with what Paul and I were discussing?

And FYI, six businesses (out of ~100) with which Trump was involved have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection over the last forty years. That isn't actually a bad record for a businessman. He has never declared personal bankruptcy.
Unlike the scores of small businessman that trump has a long history of stiffing.

Wheelspinning

1,655 posts

38 months

Saturday 30th November
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Byker28i said:
Mortarboard said:
handpaper said:
Sorry, what does that have to do with what Paul and I were discussing?

And FYI, six businesses (out of ~100) with which Trump was involved have filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection over the last forty years. That isn't actually a bad record for a businessman. He has never declared personal bankruptcy.
He is, however, banned from ever running a charity, and picked up a rico conviction for trump university.

M.
Not ignoring the two cases of business fraud for trump org, the huge number of failed businesses, the over 4000 legal cases, the over $400m his dad bailed him out woth...
His properties have huge loans against them, hardly the massive sucess trying to be made out.
Yeah, fair enough enough, but all that's a bit 'meh'...the big part is he is the 47th POTUS so all that is in the past and it's about the future.


Let's look forward to the Ukraine and Israel conflicts de- escalating instead of going a bit turbo like your man Biden and his lackeys seem to desire.

TonyToniTone

3,700 posts

257 months

Saturday 30th November
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Byker28i said:
I'm reminded of the Mark Twain quote: No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.
Twain Museum Reports 'No Trace' of Quote
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-idiot...

Wheelspinning

1,655 posts

38 months

Saturday 30th November
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TonyToniTone said:
Byker28i said:
I'm reminded of the Mark Twain quote: No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.
Twain Museum Reports 'No Trace' of Quote
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-idiot...
Surely not more unchecked 'facts'....