47th President of the United States - Donald Trump

[GG89]

Wheelspinning said:

TonyToniTone said:

Byker28i said:

I'm reminded of the Mark Twain quote: No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

Twain Museum Reports 'No Trace' of Quote
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-idiot...

Surely not more unchecked 'facts'....

I see he's still at it, i got a lengthy ban for a tongue in cheek post about his post activity and the election.

[Elysium]

Byker28i said:

Where are the Project 2025 deniers now - Shady etc, who during the campaign, believed trump and pushed that trump “nothing to do with” Project 2025, despite all the evidence given, especially now that trump is filling his team with everyone tied to project 2025 and promising to implement the policies from day 1?

"trump has dropped all pretense and is charging ahead hand in hand with the right-wing industry players shaping an agenda he denied for the whole campaign,”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/politics/tru...
https://archive.is/q844v

I think most people still think the 'project 2025' fearmongering is nonsense.

They haven't gone anywhere.

[MBBlat]

Wheelspinning said:

Yeah, fair enough enough, but all that's a bit 'meh'...the big part is he is the 47th POTUS so all that is in the past and it's about the future.


Let's look forward to the Ukraine and Israel conflicts de- escalating instead of going a bit turbo like your man Biden and his lackeys seem to desire.

Is the recent ceasefire in Lebanon an example of Biden and his lackeys going “a bit turbo”?
No doubt if it holds your hero Trump will claim the credit.

[paulguitar]

MBBlat said:

Is the recent ceasefire in Lebanon an example of Biden and his lackeys going “a bit turbo”?
No doubt if it holds your hero Trump will claim the credit.

trump once took personal credit for a safe year in commercial aviation. He's utterly shameless.

[suthol]

tangerine_sedge said:

Unlike the scores of small businessman that trump has a long history of stiffing.

Quite a few if not all of the lawyers who lay down their reputations for him post January 6th have been short changed.

[oddman]

GG89 said:

Wheelspinning said:

TonyToniTone said:

Byker28i said:

I'm reminded of the Mark Twain quote: No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

Twain Museum Reports 'No Trace' of Quote
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-idiot...

Surely not more unchecked 'facts'....

I see he's still at it, i got a lengthy ban for a tongue in cheek post about his post activity and the election.

It's a variation of Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired attributed to Jonathan Swift.

Misattribution doesn't make it any less true

[Slagathore]

captain_cynic said:

Byker28i said:

Countdown said:

Out of interest what are RFK’s views on chlorinated chicken and steroid infused beef?

As far as I'm aware he hasn't voiced one specifically but has when campaigning for potus said he would reduce chemicals usage in growing foods

That would mean a fundamental change in the way the US does agriculture, also means going up against the likes of Monsanto. I doubt very much that will happen once they rent a few suites in the Trump hotel.

Shouldn't be a problem. He's already beat them once.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/10/guilt...

[Wheelspinning]

MBBlat said:

Wheelspinning said:

Yeah, fair enough enough, but all that's a bit 'meh'...the big part is he is the 47th POTUS so all that is in the past and it's about the future.


Let's look forward to the Ukraine and Israel conflicts de- escalating instead of going a bit turbo like your man Biden and his lackeys seem to desire.

Is the recent ceasefire in Lebanon an example of Biden and his lackeys going “a bit turbo”?
No doubt if it holds your hero Trump will claim the credit.

That was established as soon as Trump was the victor and HAMMAS seen the writing on the wall and wanted to 'talk'.

Even so, there would have to be a huge escalation there over a long period to have any real affect on us.

Did you deliberately forget about the green light for the ballistic missile supply and launches at Russia and the very measured response by Putin?

That took about a week, allowed Putin to proper flex and lay down very clear ultimatums to both USA and UK about where that path leads.

It's pathetic that most Biden / Harris posters cannot have replies without goading or putting a 'trigger' in the reply such as 'your hero'.

It's this simple.

Biden was and is completely unfit to be POTUS, and the replacement candidate even more out of her depth.

He is not a hero currently, but if he de-escalates the Ukraine and Israel conflicts which results in China, North Korea and Iran winding their necks in and playing nice, he will be getting close to being a hero.

Currently, the West looks very week after that miscalculated move that has now made Russia look like it has all the cards in the deck.

The sheer fact that Putin reached out with his statements the other day about Trump is definitely a step in the right direction.

If you feel the opposite and escalation is the way ahead, we'll, I don't know what to say.

[TonyToniTone]

oddman said:

GG89 said:

Wheelspinning said:

TonyToniTone said:

Byker28i said:

I'm reminded of the Mark Twain quote: No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot.

Twain Museum Reports 'No Trace' of Quote
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mark-twain-idiot...

Surely not more unchecked 'facts'....

I see he's still at it, i got a lengthy ban for a tongue in cheek post about his post activity and the election.

It's a variation of Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired attributed to Jonathan Swift.

Misattribution doesn't make it any less true

It's incorrect and has been pointed out before.

[Countdown]

Slagathore said:

captain_cynic said:

Byker28i said:

Countdown said:

Out of interest what are RFK’s views on chlorinated chicken and steroid infused beef?

As far as I'm aware he hasn't voiced one specifically but has when campaigning for potus said he would reduce chemicals usage in growing foods

That would mean a fundamental change in the way the US does agriculture, also means going up against the likes of Monsanto. I doubt very much that will happen once they rent a few suites in the Trump hotel.

Shouldn't be a problem. He's already beat them once.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/08/10/guilt...

Interesting link (and kudos to RFK Jr). However the link also says

Link said:

Journalist Tom Philpott put the ruling in context, noting that even while the Trump administration is doing its best to lift restrictions on toxic pesticides and the chemical industry, the courts appear to be coming around to the unique and far-reaching dangers posed by insecticides, herbicides, and other powerful compounds:

As Common Dreams reported, "the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit on Thursday ruled the Trump administration illegally blocked a ban on chlorpyrifos--a pesticide linked to brain development delays in children and nervous systems issues for all people and animals exposed to it--and ordered that it be outlawed within 60 days."

[gregs656]

Wheelspinning said:

That was established as soon as Trump was the victor and HAMMAS seen the writing on the wall and wanted to 'talk'.

Even so, there would have to be a huge escalation there over a long period to have any real affect on us.

Did you deliberately forget about the green light for the ballistic missile supply and launches at Russia and the very measured response by Putin?

That took about a week, allowed Putin to proper flex and lay down very clear ultimatums to both USA and UK about where that path leads.

It's pathetic that most Biden / Harris posters cannot have replies without goading or putting a 'trigger' in the reply such as 'your hero'.

It's this simple.

Biden was and is completely unfit to be POTUS, and the replacement candidate even more out of her depth.

He is not a hero currently, but if he de-escalates the Ukraine and Israel conflicts which results in China, North Korea and Iran winding their necks in and playing nice, he will be getting close to being a hero.

Currently, the West looks very week after that miscalculated move that has now made Russia look like it has all the cards in the deck.

The sheer fact that Putin reached out with his statements the other day about Trump is definitely a step in the right direction.

If you feel the opposite and escalation is the way ahead, we'll, I don't know what to say.

Russia has all the cards? This analysis makes no sense.

[Wheelspinning]

gregs656 said:

Russia has all the cards? This analysis makes no sense.

They unleashed a game changing weapon that cannot be intercepted as it travels at mach 10, induces 4000* temperatures, can land it and destroy wherever they want including underground nuclear bunkers with none of the side effects of a nuclear weapon.

This is the only card they need.

Any Ukraine targets can now be decimated without the use of nuclear weapons if Putin decides as such, now that he was backed into a corner by the supply and launching of the ballistic missiles from the USA and UK and decided to show what he had up his sleeve.

So far, I have been unable to find any social media posts by warfare experts that has an alternative viewpoint to the unleashing of this new weapon and how it tipped the balance of power.

[98elise]

Wheelspinning said:

gregs656 said:

Russia has all the cards? This analysis makes no sense.

They unleashed a game changing weapon that cannot be intercepted as it travels at mach 10, induces 4000* temperatures, can land it and destroy wherever they want including underground nuclear bunkers with none of the side effects of a nuclear weapon.

This is the only card they need.

Any Ukraine targets can now be decimated without the use of nuclear weapons if Putin decides as such, now that he was backed into a corner by the supply and launching of the ballistic missiles from the USA and UK and decided to show what he had up his sleeve.

So far, I have been unable to find any social media posts by warfare experts that has an alternative viewpoint to the unleashing of this new weapon and how it tipped the balance of power.

What's this game changing weapon? Mach 10 is quite slow in ICBM terms.

[prand]

Wheelspinning said:

They unleashed a game changing weapon that cannot be intercepted as it travels at mach 10, induces 4000* temperatures, can land it and destroy wherever they want including underground nuclear bunkers with none of the side effects of a nuclear weapon.

This is the only card they need.

Any Ukraine targets can now be decimated without the use of nuclear weapons if Putin decides as such, now that he was backed into a corner by the supply and launching of the ballistic missiles from the USA and UK and decided to show what he had up his sleeve.

So far, I have been unable to find any social media posts by warfare experts that has an alternative viewpoint to the unleashing of this new weapon and how it tipped the balance of power.

Does it actually exist and does it work?

Nothing (from a military hardware perspective) recently developed by Russia seems to do what its supposed to do.

[Wheelspinning]

98elise said:

Wheelspinning said:

gregs656 said:

Russia has all the cards? This analysis makes no sense.

They unleashed a game changing weapon that cannot be intercepted as it travels at mach 10, induces 4000* temperatures, can land it and destroy wherever they want including underground nuclear bunkers with none of the side effects of a nuclear weapon.

This is the only card they need.

Any Ukraine targets can now be decimated without the use of nuclear weapons if Putin decides as such, now that he was backed into a corner by the supply and launching of the ballistic missiles from the USA and UK and decided to show what he had up his sleeve.

So far, I have been unable to find any social media posts by warfare experts that has an alternative viewpoint to the unleashing of this new weapon and how it tipped the balance of power.

What's this game changing weapon? Mach 10 is quite slow in ICBM terms.

Apologies; I bow to your different view to basically every military expert that has commented on this new weapon since it's deployment.

You should get a spot on a news channel to fully debunk their analysis with your thoughts.

[Countdown]

Wheelspinning said:

Apologies; I bow to your different view to basically every military expert that has commented on this new weapon since it's deployment.

From what I read I don't think he's got that many of them. so, whilst it's "totes amazing" it isn't going to do much in the short term.

[98elise]

Wheelspinning said:

98elise said:

Wheelspinning said:

gregs656 said:

Russia has all the cards? This analysis makes no sense.

They unleashed a game changing weapon that cannot be intercepted as it travels at mach 10, induces 4000* temperatures, can land it and destroy wherever they want including underground nuclear bunkers with none of the side effects of a nuclear weapon.

This is the only card they need.

Any Ukraine targets can now be decimated without the use of nuclear weapons if Putin decides as such, now that he was backed into a corner by the supply and launching of the ballistic missiles from the USA and UK and decided to show what he had up his sleeve.

So far, I have been unable to find any social media posts by warfare experts that has an alternative viewpoint to the unleashing of this new weapon and how it tipped the balance of power.

What's this game changing weapon? Mach 10 is quite slow in ICBM terms.

Apologies; I bow to your different view to basically every military expert that has commented on this new weapon since it's deployment.

You should get a spot on a news channel to fully debunk their analysis with your thoughts.

All I asked its what's the game changing weapon? Mach 10 is slow by ICBM standards. If you mean Kinzhal it's been shot down by patriot.

I'm an ex-Navy Weapons Engineer so do have some experience. My job was shooting missiles down.

Edited to add...

From a quick Google it's probably Oreshnik you're talking about. From what little I've read I don't see what's game changing about it.

Putin saying it's unstoppable sounds like the usual bks. What protection does it have against Aegis, THAAD or an Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle? As I say Mach 10 isn't fast. Elon Musk has rockets that fly faster.

News channels were full of unstoppable hypersonic missile stories when they heard about Kinzhal, then it got shot down by patriot

Edited by 98elise on Saturday 30th November 17:40

[732NM]

Wheelspinning said:

They unleashed a game changing weapon that cannot be intercepted as it travels at mach 10, induces 4000* temperatures, can land it and destroy wherever they want including underground nuclear bunkers with none of the side effects of a nuclear weapon.

This is the only card they need.

Any Ukraine targets can now be decimated without the use of nuclear weapons if Putin decides as such, now that he was backed into a corner by the supply and launching of the ballistic missiles from the USA and UK and decided to show what he had up his sleeve.

So far, I have been unable to find any social media posts by warfare experts that has an alternative viewpoint to the unleashing of this new weapon and how it tipped the balance of power.

They walk among us.

[The Rotrex Kid]

98elise said:

I'm an ex-Navy Weapons Engineer so do have some experience. My job was shooting missiles down.

And what do youuuuuuuuuu know

[732NM]

98elise said:

All I asked its what's the game changing weapon? Mach 10 is slow by ICBM standards. If you mean Kinzhal it's been shot down by patriot.

I'm an ex-Navy Weapons Engineer so do have some experience. My job was shooting missiles down.

Give over, you haven't a clue.