Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 11

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 11

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the-sharpener

547 posts

10 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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ZedLeg said:
I’m for re evaluating our relationship with the rest of the Uk. Whether that’s further devolution/federalisation or full independence.
So are you impressed with how well it has gone so far

Do you think Holyrood has brought a massive improvement to the people of scotland

I don't

I think it is stuffed from top to bottom with bottom feeding morons who should be trusted to run a bath and i would happily see the entire place shutdown

Which is the main reason i am against leaving the UK


ZedLeg said:
I’m not an english hating cybernat laugh.
So you acknowledge the buffons exist

Which is a start

ZedLeg

3,895 posts

85 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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I’m not a fan of the SNP because they’re a single issue party that attracts anyone who’s for that issue. It means that there’s no actual party consensus on any policy outside of Indy.

There are some truly unpleasant people in the party and I can’t support that.

I’d rather they weren’t in sole control of the parliament so I see the coalition as a good thing. The greens have already managed to get policies that some SNP politicians are openly against moving.

633Squadron

1,038 posts

14 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Volume 11 - and still not one single person has presented a viable economic plan for an Indy Scotland.

Perhaps the Scottish Green membership community on here can finally lift the veil and share how it will work.


the-sharpener

547 posts

10 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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ZedLeg said:
the-sharpener said:
He cares far more about FANTASTIC 100% WOMEN WHO ARE BRAVING STRUGGLING AGAINST THE MASSIVE TRANSPHOBIA OF TORY BRITIAN than men with jobs
Jesus, is there any threads here where people won’t be gross about trans women.
okay changed it

the point stands

his priorites are vastly different to the scummy voters

98elise

21,861 posts

138 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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ZedLeg said:
I think that oil company execs should be prosecuted if they’re found responsible for a spill or other environmental damage.
Directly responsible, or when it's caused by someone else, or a plant failure?

Calls for company executives to go to jail always seem to be based on the their salary rather than actions or responsibility.

Dinoboy

2,209 posts

194 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Vol11 following.

ZedLeg

3,895 posts

85 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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98elise said:
Directly responsible, or when it's caused by someone else, or a plant failure?

Calls for company executives to go to jail always seem to be based on the their salary rather than actions or responsibility.
If it’s a genuine accident then that’s different but if something happens due to negligence, the people who could have realistically prevented it if due diligence was being done should be punished.

Leithen

8,441 posts

244 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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ZedLeg said:
98elise said:
Directly responsible, or when it's caused by someone else, or a plant failure?

Calls for company executives to go to jail always seem to be based on the their salary rather than actions or responsibility.
If it’s a genuine accident then that’s different but if something happens due to negligence, the people who could have realistically prevented it if due diligence was being done should be punished.
If only politicians faced the same consequences.

the-sharpener

547 posts

10 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Evercross said:
Not the same thing, but well done for falling into the conflation trap that the male dominated pseudo-trans movement is relying upon to silence dissenters. High profile SNP and Green figures like Joanna Cherry and Andy Wightman have seen through the agenda and have been shunned by their parties for the crime of being intelligent enough to realise that it isn't really about trans-rights but instead a push by a minority group of extremist males trying (and succeeding) to do away with women-only rights, using LGBT and 'transphobia' as a deflector shield.

Worryingly, hoards of the dimwitted end of the LGBT movement are fully endorsing it.

Check out what the UN has to say about breast-bindng, something this minority group of whackos have succeeded in getting Scottish Government approval.

Edited by Evercross on Sunday 29th August 11:15
As someone who is a women (just for this post)

I have no problems with the removal of legal protections of women

HOWEVER

I do have a problem with the fact the scottish greens very rarely mention

Green issues

the-sharpener

547 posts

10 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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i see a NAT is hammering the report button like a demented monkey

A free scotland

don't make me laugh


Evercross

4,057 posts

41 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Wow - did a post of mine (that was telling the truth) get deleted!

Scottish state censorship is alive and well.

BTW it is true that should a female rape victim refuse to be medically examined by a trans 'female' (who when the proposed Gender Reform Bill is made law with the help of the Green vote in Holyrood will be able to self declare at-will) on the grounds that they are not a biological female then the rape victim will have committed a hate crime against a prescribed 'characteristic' group under the Hate Crime and Public Order (Scotland) Act 2021.

Sect. 1.2 - The characteristics are—

(a)age,

(b)disability,

(c)race, colour, nationality (including citizenship), or ethnic or national origins,

(d)religion or, in the case of a social or cultural group, perceived religious affiliation,

(e)sexual orientation,

(f)transgender identity,

(g)variations in sex characteristics.

If this is deleted again then we can all be sure someone doesn't like the truth. Mods - please read the legislation before upholding any spurious complaints by posters here. There is a reason why the relevant legislation was universally panned in the rest of the civilised world.

Yes it is abhorrent, but it is a reality in Scotland.

One Scottish MSP resigned their party whip over this issue, and another (who is a QC) is defending a Womens' Rights Group in court against accusations of hate crime for raising the very point above.

Would someone now like to explain the motivation for wanting to have these FACTS deleted?

Edited by Evercross on Sunday 29th August 16:21

aparna

1,156 posts

14 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Surprised but pleased to see some Mod action on this. This thread has been a haven for transphobes, misogongy, xenophobia etc etc. under the thinnest of pretences of Indy discussion for ages.

I’ve never reported a post as just assumed mods were on board with it.

technodup

7,424 posts

107 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Will the last person to leave Scotland please turn out the lights?

the-sharpener

547 posts

10 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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technodup said:
Will the last SANE person to leave Scotland please turn out the lights?
EFA

Evercross

4,057 posts

41 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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aparna said:
Surprised but pleased to see some Mod action on this. This thread has been a haven for transphobes, misogongy, xenophobia etc etc. under the thinnest of pretences of Indy discussion for ages.
How's about substantiating that assertion.


Also, let us not lose sight of the fact that Scottish Nationalism (like all forms of nationalism) is predicated on xenophobia, and Scottish Nationalists express prejudicial views with impunity on a regular basis (see the 'kick Tories out of Scotland' comment earlier).

Edited by Evercross on Sunday 29th August 17:35

the-sharpener

547 posts

10 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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aparna said:
Surprised but pleased to see some Mod action on this. This thread has been a haven for transphobes, misogongy, xenophobia etc etc. under the thinnest of pretences of Indy discussion for ages.

I’ve never reported a post as just assumed mods were on board with it.
As our moral guardian to guide us disgusting tories

Is this xenophobia?


the-sharpener

547 posts

10 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Evercross said:
How's about substantiating that assertion.


Also, let us not lose sight of the fact that Scottish Nationalism (like all forms of nationalism) is predicated on xenophobia, and Scottish Nationalists express prejudicial views with impunity on a regular basis (see the 'kick Tories out of Scotland' comment earlier).
I belive i am the ultra right wing bible thumbing trump voting transphobe who should be jailed for the rest of my life because of my disgusting hate speech

May i present a clue

the-sharpener said:
ZedLeg said:
the-sharpener said:
He cares far more about FANTASTIC 100% WOMEN WHO ARE BRAVING STRUGGLING AGAINST THE MASSIVE TRANSPHOBIA OF TORY BRITIAN than men with jobs
Jesus, is there any threads here where people won’t be gross about trans women.
okay changed it

the point stands

his priorites are vastly different to the scummy voters
the original post was

women with "a euphemism for a penis that might be similar to a male chicken" ( i hope that isn't a hate crime to assume the gender of a chciken)

So banging the report button is actually a bit dim

As i am accepting it is perfectly normal for women to have a penis

But i now know it is basically a hate crime to mention it

Thought i haven't checked in the past 30 seconds what transphobia actually is



digimeistter

7,353 posts

186 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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I'm guessing they're not going to be talking up Oil revenues anymore?

Leithen

8,441 posts

244 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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digimeistter said:
I'm guessing they're not going to be talking up Oil revenues anymore?
No, instead the wonders of unlimited borrowing if given the “power” aka magic money trees modern monetary theory.

simoid

19,762 posts

135 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-po...

Sturgeon self isolating after being contact traced - awaiting PCR.