Private schools, times a changing?

[vaud]

pheonix478 said:

That's it? Damn, I'm being mugged!

It depend on the topic and level… we pay £30/hr in Yorkshire for KS2/3 online 1:1 with a great tutor who adjusts lessons to match my daughters current interests… I suspect we will pay more in later years.

[DoubleSix]

pheonix478 said:

vaud said:

+ tutoring at £25-£45/hr.

That's it? Damn, I'm being mugged!

I pay £55 ph if that makes you feel any better.

(She is VERY good tho)

[MadCaptainJack]

DoubleSix said:

I pay £55 ph if that makes you feel any better.

(She is VERY good tho)

[Tom8]

A labour government that actually has a brain;

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/european-cou...

[zorba_the_greek]

Did anyone watch the debate this afternoon?

BP didn't bother showing up.

x3 Labour MPs did. Poor show I would say. Lacking any facts, Reading off scripts and one of them actually sided with the concerns....

Hope Bridget is now sitting down after her long busy day with a nice cup of Tea watching it all on catch up.

[beagrizzly]

MadCaptainJack said:

DoubleSix said:

I pay £55 ph if that makes you feel any better.

(She is VERY good tho)

French Lessons?

[DoubleSix]

Behave!

[MadCaptainJack]

Has somebody been a very naughty boy?

[DoubleSix]

Im going to be more careful with my use of capitals from this point forward

[braddo]

First test of the impact of VAT on school fees.

"No exodus to state sector after VAT added to private school fees, say English councils. Most say they have seen no impact on applications for year 7 places" for September 2025 entry.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/mar/10/...

[Tom8]

braddo said:

First test of the impact of VAT on school fees.

"No exodus to state sector after VAT added to private school fees, say English councils. Most say they have seen no impact on applications for year 7 places" for September 2025 entry.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/mar/10/...

Mainly because it was enforced midway through the year at short notice. I expect a very different picture come September.

[braddo]

Tom8 said:

Mainly because it was enforced midway through the year at short notice. I expect a very different picture come September.

As stated clearly, the article is about today's Year 6 students starting at high school in Year 7 in 6 months' time. That's the point of posting the article, it's for the start of the next school year.

[Tom8]

Yes and I still don't see the point. For many including people I talk to at my daughter's school they are weighing up options and counting the pennies and will decide before the summer term whether or not to give notice hence largely irrelevant right now.

[M1AGM]

And what about all the other age groups?

[macron]

braddo said:

Tom8 said:

Mainly because it was enforced midway through the year at short notice. I expect a very different picture come September.

As stated clearly, the article is about today's Year 6 students starting at high school in Year 7 in 6 months' time. That's the point of posting the article, it's for the start of the next school year.

And many parents who intend to send their kids to private still apply for council places in case Junior doesn't pass the exam.

So this doesn't actually tell us anything- it remains too early to know what decisions have been made.

[MadCaptainJack]

We likely won't see the full impact for a year or two. The 2026 Independent Schools Council's annual census will probably tell the real story.

[mikey_b]

Tom8 said:

Yes and I still don't see the point. For many including people I talk to at my daughter's school they are weighing up options and counting the pennies and will decide before the summer term whether or not to give notice hence largely irrelevant right now.

How's that going to work? You apply for schools in order of preference in winter, get an offer in early March, and accept (or appeal) the placement and file supporting paperwork around now in mid-March. I've literally just hit Submit on proof of address (etc) to accept a place for my youngest to start secondary school in September. If these parents are imagining that they will make a phone call sometime in the summer to say 'we'd like to move our child to [nearest half decent state school] in September please' then they will be sorely disappointed at the response.

[M1AGM]

mikey_b said:

Tom8 said:

Yes and I still don't see the point. For many including people I talk to at my daughter's school they are weighing up options and counting the pennies and will decide before the summer term whether or not to give notice hence largely irrelevant right now.

How's that going to work? You apply for schools in order of preference in winter, get an offer in early March, and accept (or appeal) the placement and file supporting paperwork around now in mid-March. I've literally just hit Submit on proof of address (etc) to accept a place for my youngest to start secondary school in September. If these parents are imagining that they will make a phone call sometime in the summer to say 'we'd like to move our child to [nearest half decent state school] in September please' then they will be sorely disappointed at the response.

Councils have a legal obligation to provide education regardless of when you apply. But you are correct that choices wont be choices if outside of the usual timetable for admissions.

The data that will tell will be the ISC figures for the next couple of years. Kids leaving private wont all go to state, some will go abroad, and some will be home schooled. The drop in fee paying places taken up will be the acid test. And it is happening despite the naysayers wanting to believe otherwise.

[Tom8]

mikey_b said:

How's that going to work? You apply for schools in order of preference in winter, get an offer in early March, and accept (or appeal) the placement and file supporting paperwork around now in mid-March. I've literally just hit Submit on proof of address (etc) to accept a place for my youngest to start secondary school in September. If these parents are imagining that they will make a phone call sometime in the summer to say 'we'd like to move our child to [nearest half decent state school] in September please' then they will be sorely disappointed at the response.

Private school parents will have little choice and little knowledge as they will take time to make the decision to remove their kids and not having any exposure to the state process they will have little idea. I don't. I would assume I would apply in july august when I have given notice to the private school. I am sure many will do the same, hence the impact won't really be seen until september.

[Murph7355]

The only things that matter are

- whether this raises any extra cash. That won't be known for at least 15mths. Likely not to the end of this govt term.

- whether educational outcomes for the "disadvantaged" improve. That will be even longer.