Cost of living squeeze in 2022

[monthou]

tannhauser said:

monthou said:

What's a rentier type?

Ever heard of Google?

You really are a charmer.

[Throttlebody]

loafer123 said:

tannhauser said:

I'd say where we are now is pretty much unprecedented.

As ever, you are hopecasting.

BOE quantitative tightening, double digit real inflation, interest rates rising, recession priced in, consumer confidence tanking, cheap and easy money ended. Live right now. Cyclic world and the adjustment is accelerating.

[tannhauser]

Throttlebody said:

loafer123 said:

tannhauser said:

I'd say where we are now is pretty much unprecedented.

As ever, you are hopecasting.

BOE quantitative tightening, double digit real inflation, interest rates rising, recession priced in, consumer confidence tanking, cheap and easy money ended. Live right now. Cyclic world and the adjustment is accelerating.

It's actually quite funny. I'm looking forward to it.

[Sway]

tannhauser said:

Throttlebody said:

loafer123 said:

tannhauser said:

I'd say where we are now is pretty much unprecedented.

As ever, you are hopecasting.

BOE quantitative tightening, double digit real inflation, interest rates rising, recession priced in, consumer confidence tanking, cheap and easy money ended. Live right now. Cyclic world and the adjustment is accelerating.

It's actually quite funny. I'm looking forward to it.

None of which is 'unprecedented' - and yet the outcomes you claim you want have NEVER happened.

Of course, whilst you claim to want to punish the 'rentier types' - you completely ignore the majority who aren't, are mortgaged owner occupiers and for which what you're 'looking for' will cause a lot of pain.

It'll cause even more pain for those without a secure and high enough income to have gotten on the ladder.

Including yourself, with your 'assets' being eroded fast, and lending being tightened...

You really are obnoxious. Wishing harm on millions in order (in theory) to hurt tens of thousands that you despise.

[Deep Thought]

Sway said:

tannhauser said:

Throttlebody said:

loafer123 said:

tannhauser said:

I'd say where we are now is pretty much unprecedented.

As ever, you are hopecasting.

BOE quantitative tightening, double digit real inflation, interest rates rising, recession priced in, consumer confidence tanking, cheap and easy money ended. Live right now. Cyclic world and the adjustment is accelerating.

It's actually quite funny. I'm looking forward to it.

None of which is 'unprecedented' - and yet the outcomes you claim you want have NEVER happened.

Of course, whilst you claim to want to punish the 'rentier types' - you completely ignore the majority who aren't, are mortgaged owner occupiers and for which what you're 'looking for' will cause a lot of pain.

It'll cause even more pain for those without a secure and high enough income to have gotten on the ladder.

Including yourself, with your 'assets' being eroded fast, and lending being tightened...

You really are obnoxious. Wishing harm on millions in order (in theory) to hurt tens of thousands that you despise.

Yup. Both him and ThroBo. Bitter, sad individuals.

Edited by Deep Thought on Saturday 14th May 22:44

[tannhauser]

Deep Thought said:

Sway said:

tannhauser said:

Throttlebody said:

loafer123 said:

tannhauser said:

I'd say where we are now is pretty much unprecedented.

As ever, you are hopecasting.

BOE quantitative tightening, double digit real inflation, interest rates rising, recession priced in, consumer confidence tanking, cheap and easy money ended. Live right now. Cyclic world and the adjustment is accelerating.

It's actually quite funny. I'm looking forward to it.

None of which is 'unprecedented' - and yet the outcomes you claim you want have NEVER happened.

Of course, whilst you claim to want to punish the 'rentier types' - you completely ignore the majority who aren't, are mortgaged owner occupiers and for which what you're 'looking for' will cause a lot of pain.

It'll cause even more pain for those without a secure and high enough income to have gotten on the ladder.

Including yourself, with your 'assets' being eroded fast, and lending being tightened...

You really are obnoxious. Wishing harm on millions in order (in theory) to hurt tens of thousands that you despise.

Yup. Both him and ThroBo. Bitter, sad individuals.

Edited by Deep Thought on Saturday 14th May 22:44

Oh stop it, you’re hurting my feelings

[roger.mellie]

Sway said:

None of which is 'unprecedented' - and yet the outcomes you claim you want have NEVER happened.

Of course, whilst you claim to want to punish the 'rentier types' - you completely ignore the majority who aren't, are mortgaged owner occupiers and for which what you're 'looking for' will cause a lot of pain.

It'll cause even more pain for those without a secure and high enough income to have gotten on the ladder.

Including yourself, with your 'assets' being eroded fast, and lending being tightened...

You really are obnoxious. Wishing harm on millions in order (in theory) to hurt tens of thousands that you despise.

Sway, as I’m sure you know there’s no talking to the ones wishing for schadenfreude in the false belief they’ll be alright jack. Maybe some of them will so I’d also suggest you and deep not get too worked up about people who are clearly twisting.

On topic, for the first time in my life I went 500 rather than 900 on the last oil order. It wasn’t an affordability reason, I just couldn’t stomach paying near a pound a litre and am hoping (futilely) that it’ll be cheaper by the time we need a refill. To the point of the thread, I’m on the end of those not financially distressed but I am making lifestyle changes that if everyone’s doing it, it will add up.

[bitchstewie]

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

[JeffreyD]

bhstewie said:

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

That bloke really is a turd of the highest order.

[Deep Thought]

roger.mellie said:

Sway, as I’m sure you know there’s no talking to the ones wishing for schadenfreude in the false belief they’ll be alright jack. Maybe some of them will so I’d also suggest you and deep not get too worked up about people who are clearly twisting.

On topic, for the first time in my life I went 500 rather than 900 on the last oil order. It wasn’t an affordability reason, I just couldn’t stomach paying near a pound a litre and am hoping (futilely) that it’ll be cheaper by the time we need a refill. To the point of the thread, I’m on the end of those not financially distressed but I am making lifestyle changes that if everyone’s doing it, it will add up.

Not getting worked up at all. It was nice over this past week when TH had flounced off and TB was on "holiday" not to have to read their usual nonsense.

Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 15th May 10:11

[pquinn]

bhstewie said:

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

Not the strongest libel case in the world ever, unless she's claiming the books don't sell or they don't sell to poor people?

Suing over perceived slights isn't a poor person's game either.

[Murph7355]

bhstewie said:

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

Think she did similar before?

[pquinn]

Murph7355 said:

bhstewie said:

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

Think she did similar before?

That was about a claim of supporting vandalism, made by Katie Hopkins, so quite a different libel claim.

Did Jack ever set up anything like a free website to distribute useful knowledge to the poors or are all the useful nuggets only available if you pay? That would make a bit of a difference to the claims in this case.

[Murph7355]

pquinn said:

Murph7355 said:

bhstewie said:

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

Think she did similar before?

That was about a claim of supporting vandalism, made by Katie Hopkins, so quite a different libel claim.

Did Jack ever set up anything like a free website to distribute useful knowledge to the poors or are all the useful nuggets only available if you pay? That would make a bit of a difference to the claims in this case.

No idea, and can't say as I pay that much attention to people suing each other over things like this (bit like the two wags having a go at each other).

[valiant]

pquinn said:

Murph7355 said:

bhstewie said:

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

Think she did similar before?

That was about a claim of vandalism made by Katie Hopkins, so quite a different libel claim.

Did Jack ever set up anything like a free website to distribute useful knowledge to the poors or are all the useful nuggets only available if you pay? That would make a bit of a difference to the claims in this case.

She has a website that lists all her recipes and whatnot for free (same recipes that are in her books) and has distributed thousands of copies of her books for free to foodbanks and other places.

She also regularly tweets hints and tips on how to buy and eat nutritional food for those on very tight budgets as well as offering support.

You may not agree with her but she is an all round good egg who is trying to do some good and this MP is acting a complete arse in response.

[bitchstewie]

She bankrupted Katie Hopkins which has to count for something

Personally if Anderson has any decency he'll just apologise and be a bit more careful with his words in the future and that'll be the end of it.

[rustyuk]

pquinn said:

Murph7355 said:

bhstewie said:

Not sure it warrants its own thread but an interesting turn of events.

Jack Monroe to sue MP after he says ‘she makes fortune from the poor’

Think she did similar before?

That was about a claim of supporting vandalism, made by Katie Hopkins, so quite a different libel claim.

Did Jack ever set up anything like a free website to distribute useful knowledge to the poors or are all the useful nuggets only available if you pay? That would make a bit of a difference to the claims in this case.

If you watch the actual video the comments were made my the person carrying out the interview and not the MP.

https://bit.ly/37GSkQ4

The case against Katie Hopkins was one of mistaken identity.

I guess Jack is considerably richer than the MP too.

The food bank the MP volunteers at offers cooking and budgeting help to people as well as giving them food. The MP reiterated this in a somewhat blunt manner.

Edited by rustyuk on Sunday 15th May 10:45

[Thankyou4calling]

okgo said:

Putney pubs all busy tonight. Over £6 a pint. Nobody cares.

Controversially I’ll make two points.

1. I agree with you! That’s probably the biggest.

2. Pundits (the Martin Lewis’ and David Lammys of this world ) are MASSIVELY over egging this “Crisis”

I know there are plenty who struggle to pay the bills, struggle to fill there trolley and drive on fumes

BUT

I’m seeing a veeeeeeery different scenario.

Incredible levels of home improvements, car upgrades, holidays, eating out, discretionary spending.

I’m just not having it.

[roger.mellie]

bhstewie said:

She bankrupted Katie Hopkins which has to count for something

Personally if Anderson has any decency he'll just apologise and be a bit more careful with his words in the future and that'll be the end of it.

I think I’ve said before I’ve bought a few of her books. I buy loads of cookery books. I’ve got more “Tuesday night” recipes out of hers than many from Rick Stein or Gary Rhodes etc. pretty sure many of those recipes are on her site and I’d never criticise her for making a living. I may not be cooking on a budget but time and materials do matter.

She knows her subject much better than many of her critics. Given how many attacks she gets, if one oversteps the line I’d have no problem with her taking them to the cleaners. An apology would be the better outcome, but that she’s not obligated to accept it is an important principle.

[Teebs]

Thankyou4calling said:

Controversially I’ll make two points.

1. I agree with you! That’s probably the biggest.

2. Pundits (the Martin Lewis’ and David Lammys of this world ) are MASSIVELY over egging this “Crisis”

I know there are plenty who struggle to pay the bills, struggle to fill there trolley and drive on fumes

BUT

I’m seeing a veeeeeeery different scenario.

Incredible levels of home improvements, car upgrades, holidays, eating out, discretionary spending.

I’m just not having it.

On your last point, I agree but it does take time for the cost of living to actually hit home and affect people. Headlines now will be reality come after Summer when the heating goes on and the bank accounts are empty..