Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)
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pghstochaj said:
I don’t like working from home personally. However, the following from Boris says more about Boris than it does about working from home:
Taking a swipe at the out-of-office culture that has taken hold across Whitehall, he adds: 'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing.'
It sounds like he's been sweetening his coffee with some of Gove's special white powder.Taking a swipe at the out-of-office culture that has taken hold across Whitehall, he adds: 'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing.'
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hstewie said:

I don't honestly know why but working from home really seems to annoy the frothers.
This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.
"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."
Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.
"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."
Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.

andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted
.It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
The mistake is believing that politicians care about the things that they say they care about.
A significant increase in WFH is likely to reduce both CO2 emissions and localised air pollution in cities and so you would think it should be encouraged......, unless such proclaimed goals are primarily being used merely to levy additional taxes and charges on the working populace and when it comes to it the government seems to mainly care about maintaining commercial property values for the benefit of a small minority.
andy_s said:
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hstewie said:

I don't honestly know why but working from home really seems to annoy the frothers.
This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.
"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."
Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.
"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."
Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.

Daily Mash reading Pistonheads again.
JagLover said:
andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted
.It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
The mistake is believing that politicians care about the things that they say they care about.
A significant increase in WFH is likely to reduce both CO2 emissions and localised air pollution in cities and so you would think it should be encouraged......, unless such proclaimed goals are primarily being used merely to levy additional taxes and charges on the working populace and when it comes to it the government seems to mainly care about maintaining commercial property values for the benefit of a small minority.
andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted
.It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
It's just pandering to their base in spite of a clear manifesto commitment to encourage it to be the default where appropriate.
Then you've got this utter ghoul spewing crap like this to hide their failings.
Jacob Rees-Mogg declares war on ‘three-day week’ for the Civil Service
Don't look at what they say look at what they do.
loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.JagLover said:
loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.Somewhat ironically, they will have to do so increasingly as the values drop to nil and below.
My business asset manages some which have been bought for £20 psf, for example.
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hstewie said:

Anyway a few chunks of red meat.
Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office - and reveals 50 illegal migrants are set to go to Rwanda in two weeks
Was he simply trying to explain his own piss poor performance whilst working from home at No10. Working from home DOESN'T work, says PM: In Mail interview, Boris Johnson demands millions get back to the office - and reveals 50 illegal migrants are set to go to Rwanda in two weeks
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hstewie said:

I don't honestly know why but working from home really seems to annoy the more right wing Brexity types.
This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.
"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."
Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.
Suggesting that people are lazy if they are not working from the office says a lot more about the person saying it than it does about the person working from home.This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.
"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."
Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.
loafer123 said:
JagLover said:
loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.Somewhat ironically, they will have to do so increasingly as the values drop to nil and below.
My business asset manages some which have been bought for £20 psf, for example.
blueg33 said:
New rules from the National Audit Office, mean that Local Authorities are not able to buy unrelated assets for an income strip. It even makes them think twice about income strip on related assets such as housing.
And rightly so.There were southern councils buying retail parks in Scotland, taking advantage of PWLB funding to create a profit.
They are still able to buy assets in their own areas, and as the default owners of town centres in distress, that makes sense.
blueg33 said:
Suggesting that people are lazy if they are not working from the office says a lot more about the person saying it than it does about the person working from home.
It's the sheer brass neck of it that amazes me.Literally in the manifesto to consult on making it the default then you have Johnson and ministers publicly suggesting people who do so are lazy.
loafer123 said:
blueg33 said:
New rules from the National Audit Office, mean that Local Authorities are not able to buy unrelated assets for an income strip. It even makes them think twice about income strip on related assets such as housing.
And rightly so.There were southern councils buying retail parks in Scotland, taking advantage of PWLB funding to create a profit.
They are still able to buy assets in their own areas, and as the default owners of town centres in distress, that makes sense.
JagLover said:
pghstochaj said:
I don’t like working from home personally. However, the following from Boris says more about Boris than it does about working from home:
Taking a swipe at the out-of-office culture that has taken hold across Whitehall, he adds: 'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing.'
Taking a swipe at the out-of-office culture that has taken hold across Whitehall, he adds: 'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing.'

It does indeed the lazy fat clown.
Meanwhile people who are being paid for results have usually invested in a home office setup and aren't spending their time traipsing to and from the fridge. You would likely often waste more time in an office doing such tasks as the kitchen area might be a bit of a walk.

TBH at least if he's stuffing his face he's not making yet another shambolic policy decision so it's by far the lesser of two evils.
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hstewie said:

andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted
.It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
It's just pandering to their base in spite of a clear manifesto commitment to encourage it to be the default where appropriate.
Then you've got this utter ghoul spewing crap like this to hide their failings.
Jacob Rees-Mogg declares war on ‘three-day week’ for the Civil Service
Don't look at what they say look at what they do.
BigMon said:
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hstewie said:

andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted
.It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
It's just pandering to their base in spite of a clear manifesto commitment to encourage it to be the default where appropriate.
Then you've got this utter ghoul spewing crap like this to hide their failings.
Jacob Rees-Mogg declares war on ‘three-day week’ for the Civil Service
Don't look at what they say look at what they do.


I came here to say - I can’t see a Rees-mogg thread hence I will put this here.
He is an absolute smug scumbag
of the highest order. I heard him on radio station LBC on Thursday or Friday morning about the reducing by 90,000 thing. He just an absolute a
hole, it doesn’t need further analysis. I could not bare to be in the same room as him, I feel sorry for any civil servants that have to interact with him in any way shape or form.
I still like Boris.
He is an absolute smug scumbag


I still like Boris.
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