Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)

Boris Johnson-Prime Minister (Vol 8)

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frisbee

4,976 posts

110 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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pghstochaj said:
I don’t like working from home personally. However, the following from Boris says more about Boris than it does about working from home:

Taking a swipe at the out-of-office culture that has taken hold across Whitehall, he adds: 'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing.'
It sounds like he's been sweetening his coffee with some of Gove's special white powder.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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bhstewie said:
I don't honestly know why but working from home really seems to annoy the frothers.

This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.

"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."

Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted confused .It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.

JagLover

42,361 posts

235 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted confused .It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
The mistake is believing that politicians care about the things that they say they care about.

A significant increase in WFH is likely to reduce both CO2 emissions and localised air pollution in cities and so you would think it should be encouraged......, unless such proclaimed goals are primarily being used merely to levy additional taxes and charges on the working populace and when it comes to it the government seems to mainly care about maintaining commercial property values for the benefit of a small minority.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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andy_s said:
bhstewie said:
I don't honestly know why but working from home really seems to annoy the frothers.

This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.

"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."

Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted confused .It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/retired-man-tortured-by-fevered-imaginings-of-how-easy-homeworkers-day-is-20220427220289

Daily Mash reading Pistonheads again.


andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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JagLover said:
andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted confused .It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
The mistake is believing that politicians care about the things that they say they care about.

A significant increase in WFH is likely to reduce both CO2 emissions and localised air pollution in cities and so you would think it should be encouraged......, unless such proclaimed goals are primarily being used merely to levy additional taxes and charges on the working populace and when it comes to it the government seems to mainly care about maintaining commercial property values for the benefit of a small minority.
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.

bitchstewie

51,055 posts

210 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted confused .It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
It's just pandering to their base in spite of a clear manifesto commitment to encourage it to be the default where appropriate.

Then you've got this utter ghoul spewing crap like this to hide their failings.

Jacob Rees-Mogg declares war on ‘three-day week’ for the Civil Service

Don't look at what they say look at what they do.

loafer123

15,422 posts

215 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.


andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.
Oof. Cheers.

JagLover

42,361 posts

235 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.
Weren't many Local councils also buying shopping centres as a "great investment"?

loafer123

15,422 posts

215 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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JagLover said:
loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.
Weren't many Local councils also buying shopping centres as a "great investment"?
Yes, they were.

Somewhat ironically, they will have to do so increasingly as the values drop to nil and below.

My business asset manages some which have been bought for £20 psf, for example.

Wills2

22,750 posts

175 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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bhstewie said:
Was he simply trying to explain his own piss poor performance whilst working from home at No10.



blueg33

35,772 posts

224 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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bhstewie said:
I don't honestly know why but working from home really seems to annoy the more right wing Brexity types.

This is what the 2019 Conservative manifesto said.

"We will encourage flexible working and consult on making it the default unless employers have good reasons not to."

Slightly at odds with the noise they're making right now about the Civil Service or suggesting people are lazy if they're not working from the office.
Suggesting that people are lazy if they are not working from the office says a lot more about the person saying it than it does about the person working from home.

blueg33

35,772 posts

224 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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loafer123 said:
JagLover said:
loafer123 said:
andy_s said:
I read a good article a few years ago about the financing of shopping centers and how entwined they were with pension funds, we're quite the hostages to fortune lately.
That ship has sailed. The values are already written down to virtually nothing.
Weren't many Local councils also buying shopping centres as a "great investment"?
Yes, they were.

Somewhat ironically, they will have to do so increasingly as the values drop to nil and below.

My business asset manages some which have been bought for £20 psf, for example.
New rules from the National Audit Office, mean that Local Authorities are not able to buy unrelated assets for an income strip. It even makes them think twice about income strip on related assets such as housing.

loafer123

15,422 posts

215 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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blueg33 said:
New rules from the National Audit Office, mean that Local Authorities are not able to buy unrelated assets for an income strip. It even makes them think twice about income strip on related assets such as housing.
And rightly so.

There were southern councils buying retail parks in Scotland, taking advantage of PWLB funding to create a profit.

They are still able to buy assets in their own areas, and as the default owners of town centres in distress, that makes sense.

bitchstewie

51,055 posts

210 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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blueg33 said:
Suggesting that people are lazy if they are not working from the office says a lot more about the person saying it than it does about the person working from home.
It's the sheer brass neck of it that amazes me.

Literally in the manifesto to consult on making it the default then you have Johnson and ministers publicly suggesting people who do so are lazy.

blueg33

35,772 posts

224 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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loafer123 said:
blueg33 said:
New rules from the National Audit Office, mean that Local Authorities are not able to buy unrelated assets for an income strip. It even makes them think twice about income strip on related assets such as housing.
And rightly so.

There were southern councils buying retail parks in Scotland, taking advantage of PWLB funding to create a profit.

They are still able to buy assets in their own areas, and as the default owners of town centres in distress, that makes sense.
Yup. There is also a PWLB cap now

BigMon

4,167 posts

129 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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JagLover said:
pghstochaj said:
I don’t like working from home personally. However, the following from Boris says more about Boris than it does about working from home:

Taking a swipe at the out-of-office culture that has taken hold across Whitehall, he adds: 'My experience of working from home is you spend an awful lot of time making another cup of coffee and then, you know, getting up, walking very slowly to the fridge, hacking off a small piece of cheese, then walking very slowly back to your laptop and then forgetting what it was you're doing.'
laugh

It does indeed the lazy fat clown.

Meanwhile people who are being paid for results have usually invested in a home office setup and aren't spending their time traipsing to and from the fridge. You would likely often waste more time in an office doing such tasks as the kitchen area might be a bit of a walk.
laugh

TBH at least if he's stuffing his face he's not making yet another shambolic policy decision so it's by far the lesser of two evils.

BigMon

4,167 posts

129 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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bhstewie said:
andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted confused .It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
It's just pandering to their base in spite of a clear manifesto commitment to encourage it to be the default where appropriate.

Then you've got this utter ghoul spewing crap like this to hide their failings.

Jacob Rees-Mogg declares war on ‘three-day week’ for the Civil Service

Don't look at what they say look at what they do.
Of all the cretins in government posts at the moment I reckon Rees-Mogg must just about be top for me in my own personal 'most loathed' rankings.



BrabusMog

20,135 posts

186 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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BigMon said:
bhstewie said:
andy_s said:
I can't figure it out, things will find their own level without govt interference/commentary. Dead coffee shops in city centers vs. cost/pollution/time wasted confused .It's not like 'work' is an homogenized blob either, circumstances alter cases.
It's just pandering to their base in spite of a clear manifesto commitment to encourage it to be the default where appropriate.

Then you've got this utter ghoul spewing crap like this to hide their failings.

Jacob Rees-Mogg declares war on ‘three-day week’ for the Civil Service

Don't look at what they say look at what they do.
Of all the cretins in government posts at the moment I reckon Rees-Mogg must just about be top for me in my own personal 'most loathed' rankings.
If they’d ever had to work a proper job, they’d not be saying st like this. What a .

CoolHands

18,596 posts

195 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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I came here to say - I can’t see a Rees-mogg thread hence I will put this here.

He is an absolute smug scumbag of the highest order. I heard him on radio station LBC on Thursday or Friday morning about the reducing by 90,000 thing. He just an absolute ahole, it doesn’t need further analysis. I could not bare to be in the same room as him, I feel sorry for any civil servants that have to interact with him in any way shape or form.

I still like Boris.
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